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I know. Which is why I am in Rick Mode right now.Which is why you would die.Have you really looked at those walls? The braces are on the OUTSIDE. Not inside. Very easy to scale that fence and anyone with history knowledge would know how to knock it down with a sling and big assed rocks.Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Well, I don't see why they can't do the same at the place they're at now.
Perhaps, but with some effort they could make that little place into a fortress. Besides, I like the nice houses.I would stay and try to make it as invincible as possible.
Well, to be honest, a zombie apocalypse isn't on my list of things to worry about. This is all just for fun.
That's true. Though, to be fair, they've never really had the manpower to effectively guard any of their settlements, not even Alexandria.
Someone could climb over that wall at pretty much any time if they were smart enough to bring a couple hooks and some rope. No one would know until it was too late to really stop them either.
Regardless, it is easier to keep an eye out in a smaller and less sprawling area. They should get themselves some huge rolled barbed wire. That would take care of that problem.
Frankly, I don't think something like that would even be physically possible. The angles involved simply wouldn't work.
Alexandria is basically a giant circle, oval, square, or rectangle that covers several city blocks worth of suburbs, and is surrounded by a 15 foot wall. There are also buildings everywhere obstructing the view, and an overgrown forest outside the wall that could conceal any number of people.
One tower couldn't cover the whole area even if they wanted it to. You'd need several spaced along the wall at regular intervals, with people manning them at all times.
And so HOW would that make the prison any better? It's even more large and sprawling. The problems would still exist. Like I said, barbed wire would take care of that little problem.
The prison is harder to break into, and provides better shelter should it come under attack.
It also has watch towers and fortifications built in.
I do agree with you, however, that it'd require a lot more work to get a prison in optimal condition than Alexandria, and that it'd require a lot more people to manage effectively
Barbed wire isn't a bad idea at all, though, actually. It should be paired with a trench and other earth works as well.
That way someone couldn't drive a tank or car right up to the place.
Well, considering that is exactly what happened with the govna . . . ?
Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Well, I don't see why they can't do the same at the place they're at now.
Regardless, it is easier to keep an eye out in a smaller and less sprawling area. They should get themselves some huge rolled barbed wire. That would take care of that problem.
And so HOW would that make the prison any better? It's even more large and sprawling. The problems would still exist. Like I said, barbed wire would take care of that little problem.
The prison is harder to break into, and provides better shelter should it come under attack.
It also has watch towers and fortifications built in.
I do agree with you, however, that it'd require a lot more work to get a prison in optimal condition than Alexandria, and that it'd require a lot more people to manage effectively
Barbed wire isn't a bad idea at all, though, actually. It should be paired with a trench and other earth works as well.
That way someone couldn't drive a tank or car right up to the place.
Well, considering that is exactly what happened with the govna . . . ?
Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Well, I don't see why they can't do the same at the place they're at now.
They could, of course.
All things being equal, however, I think thick concrete walls surrounded by trenches and barbed wire are a better bet for long-term survival than a few suburban homes and a thin wall made of sheet metal surrounded by the same.
That's true. Though, to be fair, they've never really had the manpower to effectively guard any of their settlements, not even Alexandria.
Someone could climb over that wall at pretty much any time if they were smart enough to bring a couple hooks and some rope. No one would know until it was too late to really stop them either.
Regardless, it is easier to keep an eye out in a smaller and less sprawling area. They should get themselves some huge rolled barbed wire. That would take care of that problem.
Frankly, I don't think something like that would even be physically possible. The angles involved simply wouldn't work.
Alexandria is basically a giant circle, oval, square, or rectangle that covers several city blocks worth of suburbs, and is surrounded by a 15 foot wall. There are also buildings everywhere obstructing the view, and an overgrown forest outside the wall that could conceal any number of people.
One tower couldn't cover the whole area even if they wanted it to. You'd need several spaced along the wall at regular intervals, with people manning them at all times.
And so HOW would that make the prison any better? It's even more large and sprawling. The problems would still exist. Like I said, barbed wire would take care of that little problem.
The prison is harder to break into, and provides better shelter should it come under attack.
It also has watch towers and fortifications built in.
I do agree with you, however, that it'd require a lot more work to get a prison in optimal condition than Alexandria, and that it'd require a lot more people to manage effectively
Barbed wire isn't a bad idea at all, though, actually. It should be paired with a trench and other earth works as well.
That way someone couldn't drive a tank or car right up to the place.
Well, considering that is exactly what happened with the govna . . . ?
Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Maybe zombies can swim.
How about a nice medieval castle with a moat? Think Reign Of Fire movie. Problem is...it ain't the zombies that one should be concerned about. Its Terminus Type people one needs to worry about.
Regardless, it is easier to keep an eye out in a smaller and less sprawling area. They should get themselves some huge rolled barbed wire. That would take care of that problem.
And so HOW would that make the prison any better? It's even more large and sprawling. The problems would still exist. Like I said, barbed wire would take care of that little problem.
The prison is harder to break into, and provides better shelter should it come under attack.
It also has watch towers and fortifications built in.
I do agree with you, however, that it'd require a lot more work to get a prison in optimal condition than Alexandria, and that it'd require a lot more people to manage effectively
Barbed wire isn't a bad idea at all, though, actually. It should be paired with a trench and other earth works as well.
That way someone couldn't drive a tank or car right up to the place.
Well, considering that is exactly what happened with the govna . . . ?
Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Maybe zombies can swim.
The prison is harder to break into, and provides better shelter should it come under attack.
It also has watch towers and fortifications built in.
I do agree with you, however, that it'd require a lot more work to get a prison in optimal condition than Alexandria, and that it'd require a lot more people to manage effectively
Barbed wire isn't a bad idea at all, though, actually. It should be paired with a trench and other earth works as well.
That way someone couldn't drive a tank or car right up to the place.
Well, considering that is exactly what happened with the govna . . . ?
Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Well, I don't see why they can't do the same at the place they're at now.
They could, of course.
All things being equal, however, I think thick concrete walls surrounded by trenches and barbed wire are a better bet for long-term survival than a few suburban homes and a thin wall made of sheet metal surrounded by the same.
I think it is easier to monitor a smaller area. A prison is good, but not impenetrable either, as the govna proved. All he had to do was drive a truck through the fence. A fence always needs repairs and is probably easier to penetrate. Also, I don't think those walls are "sheet metal." I think they are solid steel, and they look to be quite thick. With a few adjustments, I think they could make it a very safe place. That's just my opinion though. I would stay there and try to beef it up as much as possible. Move the supports to the inside, they could even double up on the walls. They could put a fence with barbed wire around the walls that already exist. I think there are a lot of things that they could do instead of taking the chance of moving again.
Well, considering that is exactly what happened with the govna . . . ?
Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Well, I don't see why they can't do the same at the place they're at now.
They could, of course.
All things being equal, however, I think thick concrete walls surrounded by trenches and barbed wire are a better bet for long-term survival than a few suburban homes and a thin wall made of sheet metal surrounded by the same.
I think it is easier to monitor a smaller area. A prison is good, but not impenetrable either, as the govna proved. All he had to do was drive a truck through the fence. A fence always needs repairs and is probably easier to penetrate. Also, I don't think those walls are "sheet metal." I think they are solid steel, and they look to be quite thick. With a few adjustments, I think they could make it a very safe place. That's just my opinion though. I would stay there and try to beef it up as much as possible. Move the supports to the inside, they could even double up on the walls. They could put a fence with barbed wire around the walls that already exist. I think there are a lot of things that they could do instead of taking the chance of moving again.
To each their own.
Personally, however, I'd go for something as near to a castle as I could get.
Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Well, I don't see why they can't do the same at the place they're at now.
They could, of course.
All things being equal, however, I think thick concrete walls surrounded by trenches and barbed wire are a better bet for long-term survival than a few suburban homes and a thin wall made of sheet metal surrounded by the same.
I think it is easier to monitor a smaller area. A prison is good, but not impenetrable either, as the govna proved. All he had to do was drive a truck through the fence. A fence always needs repairs and is probably easier to penetrate. Also, I don't think those walls are "sheet metal." I think they are solid steel, and they look to be quite thick. With a few adjustments, I think they could make it a very safe place. That's just my opinion though. I would stay there and try to beef it up as much as possible. Move the supports to the inside, they could even double up on the walls. They could put a fence with barbed wire around the walls that already exist. I think there are a lot of things that they could do instead of taking the chance of moving again.
To each their own.
Personally, however, I'd go for something as near to a castle as I could get.
Not too many castles in the United States.
Hearst Castle. But it isn't fortified. CMC is though.Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Well, I don't see why they can't do the same at the place they're at now.
They could, of course.
All things being equal, however, I think thick concrete walls surrounded by trenches and barbed wire are a better bet for long-term survival than a few suburban homes and a thin wall made of sheet metal surrounded by the same.
I think it is easier to monitor a smaller area. A prison is good, but not impenetrable either, as the govna proved. All he had to do was drive a truck through the fence. A fence always needs repairs and is probably easier to penetrate. Also, I don't think those walls are "sheet metal." I think they are solid steel, and they look to be quite thick. With a few adjustments, I think they could make it a very safe place. That's just my opinion though. I would stay there and try to beef it up as much as possible. Move the supports to the inside, they could even double up on the walls. They could put a fence with barbed wire around the walls that already exist. I think there are a lot of things that they could do instead of taking the chance of moving again.
To each their own.
Personally, however, I'd go for something as near to a castle as I could get.
Not too many castles in the United States.
Yeah barbed wire should handle all those walkers who will be climbing fences by next season lol. In any case prisons are meant to keep people in not out.Alexandria is a lot safer than the prison in some ways. Don't forget, while the prison walls were very secure, it was just a chain link fence around the grounds.
Take a prison, and then build walls like Alexandria has around it.
Yes but a bigger place is much more difficult to maintain and to keep watch over.
That's true. Though, to be fair, they've never really had the manpower to effectively guard any of their settlements, not even Alexandria.
Someone could climb over that wall at pretty much any time if they were smart enough to bring a couple hooks and some rope. No one would know until it was too late to really stop them either.
Regardless, it is easier to keep an eye out in a smaller and less sprawling area. They should get themselves some huge rolled barbed wire. That would take care of that problem.
Frankly, I don't think something like that would even be physically possible. The angles involved simply wouldn't work.Yes but a bigger place is much more difficult to maintain and to keep watch over.
That's true. Though, to be fair, they've never really had the manpower to effectively guard any of their settlements, not even Alexandria.
Someone could climb over that wall at pretty much any time if they were smart enough to bring a couple hooks and some rope. No one would know until it was too late to really stop them either.
I can only assume that there is a view of the entire wall from the watchtower.
Alexandria is basically a giant circle, oval, square, or rectangle that covers several city blocks worth of suburbs, and is surrounded by a 15 foot wall. There are also buildings everywhere obstructing the view, and an overgrown forest outside the wall that could conceal any number of people.
One tower couldn't cover the whole area even if they wanted it to. You'd need several spaced along the wall at regular intervals, with people manning them at all times.
And so HOW would that make the prison any better? It's even more large and sprawling. The problems would still exist. Like I said, barbed wire would take care of that little problem.
The prison is harder to break into, and provides better shelter should it come under attack.
It also has watch towers and fortifications built in.
I do agree with you, however, that it'd require a lot more work to get a prison in optimal condition than Alexandria, and that it'd require a lot more people to manage effectively
Barbed wire isn't a bad idea at all, though, actually. It should be paired with a trench and other earth works as well.
That way someone couldn't drive a tank or car right up to the place.
A "castle" isn't a bad idea against the walkers, but against the living? Fortifications throughout history have always fallen to a determined attacker.Well, considering that is exactly what happened with the govna . . . ?
Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Well, I don't see why they can't do the same at the place they're at now.
They could, of course.
All things being equal, however, I think thick concrete walls surrounded by trenches and barbed wire are a better bet for long-term survival than a few suburban homes and a thin wall made of sheet metal surrounded by the same.
I think it is easier to monitor a smaller area. A prison is good, but not impenetrable either, as the govna proved. All he had to do was drive a truck through the fence. A fence always needs repairs and is probably easier to penetrate. Also, I don't think those walls are "sheet metal." I think they are solid steel, and they look to be quite thick. With a few adjustments, I think they could make it a very safe place. That's just my opinion though. I would stay there and try to beef it up as much as possible. Move the supports to the inside, they could even double up on the walls. They could put a fence with barbed wire around the walls that already exist. I think there are a lot of things that they could do instead of taking the chance of moving again.
To each their own.
Personally, however, I'd go for something as near to a castle as I could get.
Well, considering that is exactly what happened with the govna . . . ?
Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Well, I don't see why they can't do the same at the place they're at now.
They could, of course.
All things being equal, however, I think thick concrete walls surrounded by trenches and barbed wire are a better bet for long-term survival than a few suburban homes and a thin wall made of sheet metal surrounded by the same.
I think it is easier to monitor a smaller area. A prison is good, but not impenetrable either, as the govna proved. All he had to do was drive a truck through the fence. A fence always needs repairs and is probably easier to penetrate. Also, I don't think those walls are "sheet metal." I think they are solid steel, and they look to be quite thick. With a few adjustments, I think they could make it a very safe place. That's just my opinion though. I would stay there and try to beef it up as much as possible. Move the supports to the inside, they could even double up on the walls. They could put a fence with barbed wire around the walls that already exist. I think there are a lot of things that they could do instead of taking the chance of moving again.
To each their own.
Personally, however, I'd go for something as near to a castle as I could get.
Well, yea. That was my point. [emoji14]
The prison itself was a pretty decent place to fortify. They screwed up by not fortifying the grounds around it too though.
They should have dug trenches, put up barbed wire, and set some of those spike traps Morgan used when was still crazy up to prevent walkers and vehicles from getting too close.
That way, and enemy couldn't just up on them like the Guv did.
Failing that, and island would work, like Gracie suggested.
Well, I don't see why they can't do the same at the place they're at now.
They could, of course.
All things being equal, however, I think thick concrete walls surrounded by trenches and barbed wire are a better bet for long-term survival than a few suburban homes and a thin wall made of sheet metal surrounded by the same.
I think it is easier to monitor a smaller area. A prison is good, but not impenetrable either, as the govna proved. All he had to do was drive a truck through the fence. A fence always needs repairs and is probably easier to penetrate. Also, I don't think those walls are "sheet metal." I think they are solid steel, and they look to be quite thick. With a few adjustments, I think they could make it a very safe place. That's just my opinion though. I would stay there and try to beef it up as much as possible. Move the supports to the inside, they could even double up on the walls. They could put a fence with barbed wire around the walls that already exist. I think there are a lot of things that they could do instead of taking the chance of moving again.
To each their own.
Personally, however, I'd go for something as near to a castle as I could get.
Another thing about the prison. A chain link fence is certainly not impenetrable if you are concerned about the people and not the zombies. All a person would have to do is go there at night and snip it and make a whole. They're in.
