The United States IS a Christian Nation

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    Very confusing, first Obama says that we're not a Christian nation, then world acclaimed religion professors from such universities as the prestigious Boston University, acclaim that .... well in fact, the US is pervasively Christian and only a Christian would be so blind as to not see that fact.

    I would tend to agree, as Christians or even "Judeo-Christian" aligned persons, the ability to see just how Christian we are is inadequate since we don't know anything else.

    We do not frequently visit or live in Muslim countries, or in East Asia, or India where Christianity has hardly shaped their worldview.

    And we rarely associate with such persons enough to get an adequate perspective.

    From an outside perspective, it would seem that Obama's comments would only be seen as crazy, or pandering, or false. I'm only suggesting that would be the case, I don't know if anyone has made that claim from say...the Middle East.

    But, regarding the US, it seems someone is trying to change our "perception" and is getting away with it because of our inability to perceive the truth otherwise.

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    The United States IS a Christian Nation ... that waterboards.

    Jesus would be proud.
     
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    Waaaaaah!
     
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    An interesting point. I know that, in a similar vein, I've mentioned to people how amazingly America-centric the point of view is of the very people who most criticize America for being America-centric. It's really kind of amusing sometimes to realize just how much we unconsciously project Americanism onto everything, even those of us who seem to hate everything about America.

    An example, for those of you who are going to demand one, would be a leftist journailst - I'd have to look up the name - who reported on why people in Muslim countries support Osama bin Laden so much, and said it was because he did good works in the community like building daycare centers. (And if you can't see why that's funny, it's because you're being America-centric. :lol: )
     
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    I think that whether or not America is a Christian nation depends on the definition of a "Christian nation".

    Does “Christian nation" = theocracy? In other words, is a Christian nation a nation in which the clergy who belong to the Christian denomination(s) essentially govern the nation through the government.

    Does “Christian nation" = a nation in which a Christian denomination(s) is the established religion of that nation? A good example of such a government would be the Massachusetts Bay Colony as it was under the strict rule of the Puritans. No room was made for serving God according to one's own conscience.

    Does "Christian nation" = a nation in which the basic principles of Christianity, found clearly written and promulgated in the Scriptures, were the foundation of the form of government and the quality of society and culture?

    Does “Christian nation” = a nation in which its citizens claim to be Christian?
     
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    Christian in the sense that our basic values were established by Christendom?

    Sure, true.

    What's your point?
     
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    only a Christian would be so blind as to not see

    It took a few tries but I think you are on to something.
     
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    There is a long thread on this somewhere.
     
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    America is a secular nation full of neochristians

    See the 1st amendment, te words of tyhe FF, and the Treaty of Tripoli
     
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    America is not nw nor has it ever been a christian Nation. It has a various points in time been a nation composed largely of either Christians or those who thought themsleves to be Christianity. Christianity is not now nor has it ever been about the nation state, it is about the individual human heart.
     
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