The Two Big Myths about the Middle East

[surada]

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I see no ethnic population named Palestinian.
Meanwhile the Mufti of Jerusalem was extracting Jizya from both Jews and Christians in 1922...

They were referred to as Palestinian Arabs or Palestinian Christians.

No jizya since 1839.

 

[surada]

How far back in time shall we go to establish the right to land?
I am identifying as a neanderthal, now all you fuckers GET OFF MY LAND!
Seriously, in the here and now, Israel exists, as do all the other countries. Palestine had many chances to exist, but could not accept their neighbors. Therefore, they gotta go.

Palestinians, whether Muslim, Christian or Jew, shared an Arab culture and they have been there 2000 years.

Consider the Iranian Jews who have lived in Iran/Persia 2500 years. Does that help your understanding?

 

[surada]

Who was there before them? What happened to the people of Jericho?

Natufians and Canaanites.

 

[Doc7505]

Who was there before them? What happened to the people of Jericho?

The Canaanites of Jericho were killed in a war.
We are discussing 600 years BCE (before the Common Era) or 2, 623 years ago.
Just how far back must we go back for justifications or blame?

 

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The Canaanites of Jericho were killed in a war.
We are discussing 600 years BCE (before the Common Era) or 2, 623 years ago.
Just how far back must we go back for justifications or blame?

The story of Joshua is fiction.

 

[rampart]

Couldn't the same be said about the Israelis?

dna is showing that the palestinians, who obviously exist, are descended from a similar population in the 1st century. in christ's time palestine was ruled by a Diadochi king, herod antipas who himself served at roman convenience. the language was greek (koin, not classical) the jews were mot removed from palustine by titus as we see, to believe, but the nom rebellious jews, arabs, and christians were subjected and converted by the saracens in the 7th century.

 

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The Two Big Myths about the Middle East​

The Two Big Myths about the Middle East

Propagation of myths has consequences. Let us examine a couple and see where they have led. Myth 1. The State of Palestine This so-called state is like Brigadoon, with two exceptions: a. It never appea...

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23 Oct 2023 ~~ By Milli Sands

Propagation of myths has consequences. Let us examine a couple and see where they have led.

Myth 1. The State of Palestine
This so-called state is like Brigadoon, with two exceptions:

a. It never appeared. ​

b. It refuses to go away. ​

Neither a country nor a state of Palestine has ever existed.
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In 66 AD, the Jewish people revolted against Roman rule. The revolt lasted for seven years and ended with the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem.
The name Judea was changed to Syria Palaestina by the Roman emperor Hadrian in 135 AD, following the Bar Kokhba revolt. The revolt was a Jewish uprising against Roman rule, and Hadrian crushed it. It resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews. In an effort to suppress Jewish identity, Hadrian renamed the province. The name “Palaestina” was derived from the Philistines, a people who had lived in the region centuries earlier. The addition of the name “Syria” was intended to emphasize the province’s status as a Roman province.
Renaming was an attempt to render extinct the Jewish nature and history of the land and to humiliate the restive Jews. It was a reminder of the Roman Empire’s power. The name Syria Palaestina remained in use until the 7th century, when the region was conquered by the Arabs.
The Arabs ruled until the Crusaders took land back, then lost it to Arabs, who lost it to the Ottomans (a Turkic people) in 1517.
As a consequence of their loss in WWI, the Turks gave control of the region known as Palestine to the British n 1917.
Between 1917 and 1920, Palestine was under the control of the British military after their conquest of the region.

In December 1917, British forces under General Edmund Allenby captured Jerusalem, ending Ottoman rule. ​

From 1917-1920, Palestine was occupied by the British and governed by the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA), part of the British military. ​

In 1920, Britain was officially granted control of Palestine by the San Remo Conference. The British Mandate for Palestine then governed the region from 1920 until 1948. ​

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The San Remo Conference resolutions required Britain to facilitate the creation of a Jewish national home in Mandatory Palestine per the policies of the Balfour Declaration.
Before moving on:

• There never was a Palestinian state or country.
• There never was rule by anything called a Palestinian.
• The land of Mandatory Palestine was to be the Jewish national homeland in an area occupied continuously by Jews for millennia.
• Jewish rule and occupancy antedated the advent of the newcomer religion Islam by millennia.
• Mandatory Palestine, set aside for the National Homeland of the Jews, had its territory diminished by around seven eighths, in contravention of their mandatory obligations by the British to create Transjordan (now commonly known as Jordan).

Myth 2. Palestinians
No state, no nation, no people. Palestine never existed, hence Palestinians never existed, do not exist. Full stop.
Don’t believe me? Take it from the mouth of a bona fide Palestinian terrorist.
Zuheir Mohsen, leader of the Palestinian terror group As Saiqa, explained in a 1970 interview with James Dorsey for the Dutch newspaper Trouw why the “Palestinian people” had been invented:

The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. ​

There are many more myths — e.g., “land for peace,” “the West Bank,” “it is a territorial conflict,” etc.
But we can stop here and get on to the ultimate point of this essay.
Those of us who follow AT, and especially those who contribute, should display a certain integrity of thought in our approaches. Anyone who has followed this site for a week or two knows that we lament the overtaking of language by the left and its use as a weapon. Time after time, we complain about how the loss of truth in language packaging has served to propagandize the public.
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Our language should reflect the precision we assert is missing. We should not use the term “Palestine” to describe Gaza, Judea and Samaria, Israel, or any other territory. We should not refer to the so-called Palestinians as a real people. We should not refer to Judea and Samaria as the “West Bank” (a term basically invented after 1967).
Myths have consequences. In the context of the myths presented here, the consequences are the slaughter of Jews, the rise of antisemitism in such frenzy that there are calls for the extermination of the Jews, and the peril of a broad-ranging international war.
We lead by taking action. We should act as we say. Otherwise, we are hypocrites.


Commentary:
Milli Sands has written an accurate thesis regarding Israel/Judea/Palaestina as we know the area today.
There is no such thing as Palestine or Palestinians. Palestine was the name given to Israel by the Roman Empire by Emperor Hadrian after they invaded and conquered it. Israelis never used or accepted the name and the people using it today are Islamic invaders and squatters.
Has anyone ever wondered why the Arab nations have never recognized "Palestinians", or allowed them citizenship? The answer is, they are the trailer trash of the Arab neighborhood.
“There was no such thing as Palestinians. When was there an independent Palestinian people with a Palestinian state? It was either southern Syria before the First World War, and then it was a Palestine including Jordan. It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. "They did not exist.” -- Golda Meir
In truth "Palestinians" are in fact Jordanians and they are shunned entrance or citizenship by Jordan. Even Egypt refuses them entrance.

they exist. it would be much more convenient if they did not, i suppose. maops from the time of ptolemy and titus (about 300 tears. ,

call them what you want, and deny that many of them are christians, but this argument that they do not exist is bogus. no state? where did herod the great rule? where was pilate procurator.

 

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In 66 AD, the Jewish people revolted against Roman rule. The revolt lasted for seven years and ended with the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem.
The name Judea was changed to Syria Palaestina by the Roman emperor Hadrian in 135 AD, following the Bar Kokhba revolt.
No state, no nation, no people. Palestine never existed, hence Palestinians never existed, do not exist.

The Levant is mainly an unwanted region in constant turmoil and change for thousands of years as various nations of the region battled for the territory. Then the Israelites settled in the region a couple thousand years ago. Far as science can determine, the people mostly living in the Gaza region today calling themselves Palestinians originally came from Egyptian staves (women) who moved north then mated with various Arabs of the region. But a study of the haplogroups of all the people in the area show all of them share a common ancestry now.

 

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