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How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas - WSJWhile you fund terror groups like al Qaeda and Hamas
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How Israel Helped Spawn Hamas: Wall Street Journal | HuffPost
How Israel Helped Spawn Hamas: Wall Street Journal
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How Israel Helped Spawn Hamas - Mic
How Israel Helped Spawn Hamas
Today, it seems hard to imagine that Israel would harbor any generosity towards Hamas. As its tanks, planes, and ships pound Gaza, and its governing powers respond with volleys of rockets, their enmity's tragic cost is rising by the hour. Image…
Author: Bethan Staton
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TRANSCEND MEDIA SERVICE » How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas
How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas
''Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation,'' says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. ''When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake,'' says David Hacham, who worked in Gaza in the late 1980s and early '90s as an Arab-affairs...
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How Israel helped create Hamas - The Washington Post
Jul 30, 2014 · How Israel helped create Hamas A picture taken along Israel's border with the Gaza Strip shows the sun setting over the Palestinian enclave. (Jack Guez/Agence France-Presse via Getty Images)
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How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas - WSJ
Mar 14, 2015 · Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas. Sheikh Yassin continues to inspire militants today; during the recent war in Gaza, Hamas fighters confronted Israeli troops with "Yassins," primitive rocket-propelled grenades named in honor of the cleric.
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How and why Israel helped create Hamas?
How and why Israel helped create Hamas? | The Express Tribune
Not many people are aware of the fact that it was Israel which had helped the creation of Hamas as a counter to PLO
tribune.com.pk
Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping Create Hamas to ...
Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping Create Hamas to Bombing It
Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.
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Hamas Israel's own creation | Shlomo Alegra | The Blogs
Hamas Israel’s own creation
From the blog of Shlomo Alegra at The Times of Israel
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Such is the art of the deal.
Trump Administration Has Drastically Dropped Visas For Afghan And Iraqi Interpreters
May 1, 2019 5:10 AM ET
In light of the sacrifice made by Iraqis and Afghans who assisted U.S. forces, Congress created the Special Immigrant Visa Program to get them and their families to safety in the U.S. Farley says it was about gratitude and also an incentive for local nationals to help U.S. troops. Now veterans such as Farley, as well as dozens of lawmakers, say they're afraid the promise they made is being broken. Under the Trump administration, the number coming to the U.S. has dropped drastically.
Trump Attacks Biden For Afghanistan Chaos After Giving Taliban The Deal That Ensured It
Trump referred to the terrorist group as great “warriors” and even suggested they have a right to rule the country.
08/19/2021
“We had a good long conversation today and, you know, they want to cease the violence. They’d like to cease violence also,” Trump said on March 3, 2020, just days after the agreement ― which was made with the Taliban but not the U.S.-allied Afghan government ― was signed.
He told reporters he’d had a 35-minute phone call with the Taliban leader and had told him: “It is a pleasure to talk to you. You are a tough people and have a great country, and I understand that you are fighting for your homeland.”
Six months later, Trump said at a news conference: “They’re very tough, they’re very smart, they’re very sharp.”
Even now, with the Taliban having overrun the Afghan government and taken back control, Trump continued praising the group, known for its murderous, theocratic tactics. “I will tell you they’re good fighters. You have to give them credit for that. They’ve been fighting for a thousand years. That’s what they do is they fight,” Trump told Fox Business on Tuesday.
At one point, Trump even claimed that the Taliban would take over the counterterrorism operation the United States had been basing out of Afghanistan. “They will be killing terrorists. They will be killing some very bad people. They will keep that fight going,” Trump said.
In fact, by the time of the February 2020 agreement, the Taliban had essentially merged with al Qaeda, the terrorist group it had harbored leading up to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on America. The Taliban’s refusal to hand over Osama bin Laden and other al Qaeda leaders to the U.S. was the basis for the U.S. invasion and removal of the Taliban from power in the first place.
“I was at a loss as to where he got a lot of his information,” a Trump White House official said on condition of anonymity.
Indeed, as Trump and some of his top aides attack Biden for the chaotic departure from Kabul that threatens to leave Americans as well as Afghan nationals who helped the U.S. to the mercy of the Taliban regime, they do so despite having set up the conditions that made a smooth evacuation and withdrawal nearly impossible without yet another troop surge.
That the deal was negotiated with the Taliban, without the Afghan government, immediately sent signals about their future. The Taliban’s lead negotiator, in fact, was released from a Pakistan prison at Trump’s request.
And in one of his final acts before leaving office, Trump reduced the U.S. military presence in the country to just 2,500 troops ― not nearly enough to maintain control of Kabul, let alone all the major cities and military installations, including Bagram Air Base, without the help of the Afghan government’s police force and army.
Those security units, however, largely surrendered or simply vanished as a Taliban sweep of the country looked ever more inevitable.
Trump Attacks Biden For Afghanistan Chaos After Giving Taliban The Deal That Ensured It
Trump referred to the terrorist group as great "warriors" and even suggested they have a right to rule the country.www.huffpost.com
Trump's deal with the Taliban set the stage for the Afghan collapse
History will mark Aug. 15, 2021, as the date that the Afghan government collapsed and the Taliban retook control over this troubled and war-torn country. But the real date that the Taliban's victory was assured is Feb. 29, 2020, the day the Trump administration signed what it characterized as a "peace" deal with the Taliban. Once this agreement was signed - the tragic collapse we witnessed this weekend was inevitable.
Of course, the agreement was not, and could not possibly have been, a "peace" deal since one of the parties currently at war - the Afghan government - was not a signatory. Rather, this was a "withdrawal" agreement between the U.S. and the Taliban that set the terms for the complete departure of American troops from Afghanistan by May 2021.
What did the United States gain in exchange for this withdrawal, for which the Taliban had been fighting for 20 years? Nothing but vague, unenforceable promises that the Taliban would not engage in hostilities against the departing U.S. troops and would "send a clear message" to al Qaeda that it "had no place" in Afghanistan. So eager Trump was to withdraw, we did not even hold out for a clear, firm commitment that the Taliban would not provide aid, safe harbor or weaponry to al Qaeda and like-minded groups. The agreement contained no enforcement mechanisms and included no penalties on the Taliban for failing to comply with its terms.
The fact that the United States entered into negotiations and then an agreement with the Taliban, without even inviting the Afghan government to the table, undercut the power and legitimacy of the government. The citizenry, including those in the national armed services and police, could plainly see that its own government was being ignored, a helpless bystander in critical discussions about the country's future. After we had cut the legs out from under this government and rendered it a paper tiger, it is no wonder that when those serving in the Afghan army and police were asked to fight, most said, "No, thanks."
our allies in the region are getting their people out ! and parliament held Biden in contempt ! UK Parliament Makes Unprecedented Decision to Hold Biden in Contempt
You can look it up or not. I just thought you wouldnt want to sound ignorant but you people seem to take pride in that.
What you say since we both know that you lied and made that up. There is no way they would have stayed if they had been told to leave. You are just lying and you're a racist. Democrats don't just lie, you are lies. You are dishonesty itself. You spent four years lying about everything Trump said
Asclepias
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So youre saying the first time you heard that Drumpf was going to pull troops out of Afghanistan was last week?What you say since we both know that you lied and made that up. There is no way they would have stayed if they had been told to leave. You are just lying and you're a racist. Democrats don't just lie, you are lies. You are dishonesty itself. You spent four years lying about everything Trump said
How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas - WSJ
Jan 24, 2009 · Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas.How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas - WSJ
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How Israel Helped Spawn Hamas: Wall Street Journal | HuffPost
Feb 24, 2009 · How Israel Helped Spawn Hamas: Wall Street Journal. Surveying the wreckage of a neighbor’s bungalow hit by a Palestinian rocket, retired Israeli official Avner Cohen traces the missile’s trajectory back to an “enormous, stupid mistake” made 30 years ago. “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades.How Israel Helped Spawn Hamas: Wall Street Journal
How Israel Helped Spawn Hamas: Wall Street Journal
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How Israel Helped Spawn Hamas - Mic
Jul 20, 2014 · How Israel Helped Spawn Hamas. By Bethan Staton. July 19, 2014. Share. Today, it seems hard to imagine that Israel would harbor any generosity towards Hamas…How Israel Helped Spawn Hamas
Today, it seems hard to imagine that Israel would harbor any generosity towards Hamas. As its tanks, planes, and ships pound Gaza, and its governing powers respond with volleys of rockets, their enmity's tragic cost is rising by the hour. Image…www.mic.com
Author: Bethan Staton
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TRANSCEND MEDIA SERVICE » How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas
Jan 24, 2009 · How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas. PALESTINE - ISRAEL, 28 Jul 2014 . Andrew Higgins – The Wall Street Journal. Jan. 24, 2009 . Moshav Tekuma, Israel. Surveying the wreckage of a neighbor’s bungalow hit by a Palestinian rocket, retired Israeli official Avner Cohen traces the missile’s trajectory back to an “enormous, stupid mistake” made 30 years ago.How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas
''Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation,'' says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. ''When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake,'' says David Hacham, who worked in Gaza in the late 1980s and early '90s as an Arab-affairs...www.transcend.org
How Israel helped create Hamas - The Washington Post
Jul 30, 2014 · How Israel helped create Hamas A picture taken along Israel's border with the Gaza Strip shows the sun setting over the Palestinian enclave. (Jack Guez/Agence France-Presse via Getty Images)
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How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas - WSJ
Mar 14, 2015 · Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas. Sheikh Yassin continues to inspire militants today; during the recent war in Gaza, Hamas fighters confronted Israeli troops with "Yassins," primitive rocket-propelled grenades named in honor of the cleric.
Estimated Reading Time: 1 min
How and why Israel helped create Hamas?
May 30, 2021 · How Israel helped the creation of Hamas is narrated by Andrew Higgins, an Israeli official who had worked in Gaza in the 1980s. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal in 2009, he stated ...How and why Israel helped create Hamas? | The Express Tribune
Not many people are aware of the fact that it was Israel which had helped the creation of Hamas as a counter to PLO
Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping Create Hamas to ...
Feb 19, 2018 · To be clear: First, the Israelis helped build up a militant strain of Palestinian political Islam, in the form of Hamas and its Muslim Brotherhood precursors; then, the Israelis switched tack and...Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping Create Hamas to Bombing It
Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.
Hamas Israel's own creation | Shlomo Alegra | The Blogs
Dec 03, 2018 · Hamas gained more support since they still refused to even acknowledge Israel’s right to exist as a political entity many Palestinians started to support them since their 1988 charter stated the ...Hamas Israel’s own creation
From the blog of Shlomo Alegra at The Times of Israel
So it's OK you fund terrorism because it's the Jews fault. What an unexpected answer, an Arab blaming the Jews. I believe this is the first time that's happened.
You are desperate to distract from Joe Biden fucking up the Afghan withdrawal. I don't blame you. Especially how when he talks he clearly has no idea what's going on. Biden is an embarrassment to himself and his country
So youre saying the first time you heard that Drumpf was going to pull troops out of Afghanistan was last week?
You really are a brainless twit.
OK, so when Trump said we are going to withdraw, you expected the civilians to cut and run then and not wait for specific instructions from the government who employed them or their family members?
You have a vagina, don't you? Be honest
Asclepias
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Yep. You dont fuck around in a country that has a terrorist group just waiting to take over and they hate americans. What kind of fucking retard does that?OK, so when Trump said we are going to withdraw, you expected the civilians to cut and run then and not wait for specific instructions from the government who employed them or their family members?
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Hmmm...and that mission to the Kabul Hotel that brought 170 Americans into the airport??All Biden had to do is tell the military to "do what it takes" rather than completely tying their hands.
U.S. military helicopters rescue 169 Americans from hotel near Kabul airport - UPI.com
U.S. military helicopters rescued 169 Americans from a hotel near Kabul, a Pentagon spokesman confirmed.
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"Hands tied" huh?
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Yep. You dont fuck around in a country that has a terrorist group just waiting to take over and they hate americans. What kind of fucking retard does that?
Someone who thinks they are doing an important job supporting the military in Afghanistan and the military will take care of them and give them withdrawal instructions instead of one day cutting and running and abandoning them.
And then came Joe Biden ...
Asclepias
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So again you're actually saying they had no clue the were supposed to leave even though May and 11Sept were broadcast worldwide as departure dates? Come on now. They didnt need anyone to hold their hands. They are all adults.Someone who thinks they are doing an important job supporting the military in Afghanistan and the military will take care of them instead of one day cutting and running and abandoning them.
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Those Americans knew we were getting out of Afghanistan.Someone who thinks they are doing an important job supporting the military in Afghanistan and the military will take care of them and give them withdrawal instructions instead of one day cutting and running and abandoning them.
And then came Joe Biden ...
Hell I knew it. You didn't?
What they didn't know what that the Afghan Army would collapse before we even withdrew
Hmmm...and that mission to the Kabul Hotel that brought 170 Americans into the airport??
U.S. military helicopters rescue 169 Americans from hotel near Kabul airport - UPI.com
U.S. military helicopters rescued 169 Americans from a hotel near Kabul, a Pentagon spokesman confirmed.
"Hands tied" huh?
Yes, they need to do that about a thousand more times.
But sure, I'll give you the running count
Saved: 170
Left on their own: Tens of thousands
That's all it takes for you, huh? One mission.
Again you're one of the Democrats who would be screaming bloody murder the loudest if it were Trump.
Caring about a political party is unfathomable to me, yet it's the biggest thing to you
Those Americans knew we were getting out of Afghanistan.
Hell I knew it. You didn't?
What they didn't know what that the Afghan Army would collapse before we even withdrew
I addressed that .... in the post you quoted .... stupid fuck ...
So again you're actually saying they had no clue the were supposed to leave even though May and 11Sept were broadcast worldwide as departure dates? Come on now. They didnt need anyone to hold their hands. They are all adults.
No, that's not what I said stupid racist fuck. You morons can't read. You went to your crappy government schools, didn't you? Be honest
BlueGold News? I read the BBC every day. You should try it.Which of the Brits? Parliament. Its official, Xiden is contemptible.
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Hundreds of thousands of AMERICANS?
Ummm no
I meant tens of thousands, which is what I said elsewhere.
Where did you get we only care about Americans and you want to let the rest of them die?
Again, the total opposite of what your standard would be if Trump were in office, sick fascist fuck
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Abandoning them?Someone who thinks they are doing an important job supporting the military in Afghanistan and the military will take care of them and give them withdrawal instructions instead of one day cutting and running and abandoning them.
And then came Joe Biden ...
We have more troops there now than when Trump left office, stupid
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