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btw...you all do realized the Plymouth Plantation was a failure in the end, don't you.
btw...you all do realized the Plymouth Plantation was a failure in the end, don't you.
Who cares? Can't you just be happy for the settlers for being able to sit down and share a meal amongst those less fortunate?
btw...you all do realized the Plymouth Plantation was a failure in the end, don't you.
Who cares? Can't you just be happy for the settlers for being able to sit down and share a meal amongst those less fortunate?
Who was the less fortunate?
Of course. But I don't need to be happy to see libertarian dweebs writing revisionist history.btw...you all do realized the Plymouth Plantation was a failure in the end, don't you.
Who cares? Can't you just be happy for the settlers for being able to sit down and share a meal amongst those less fortunate?
Of course. But I don't need to be happy to see libertarian dweebs writing revisionist history.btw...you all do realized the Plymouth Plantation was a failure in the end, don't you.
Who cares? Can't you just be happy for the settlers for being able to sit down and share a meal amongst those less fortunate?
Of course. But I don't need to be happy to see libertarian dweebs writing revisionist history.btw...you all do realized the Plymouth Plantation was a failure in the end, don't you.
Who cares? Can't you just be happy for the settlers for being able to sit down and share a meal amongst those less fortunate?
That has to be the biggest pile of bullshit revisionism in the history of at least the last week. Collectivism!!! but the good guys through arduousness endeavor finally win out, what a farce. I wish I had time to research the idiocy that corporate tool writes, but my eyes are so full of the glory of money I can hardly see. If there were an award for taking the modern times and reading backward into a past so different from today, he would win it. Monday morning quarterback idiocy 200 plus years later. Too comic.
Yes, it does. It's gotten crazy this politicizing freaking holidays...here's some rep for you, you selfish bastard!Of course. But I don't need to be happy to see libertarian dweebs writing revisionist history.Who cares? Can't you just be happy for the settlers for being able to sit down and share a meal amongst those less fortunate?
Like the left never tries to 'revise' history
How about this...
None of us were alive or present during this time period, so none of us REALLY know what happened. Let's just leave it at that and move on, becuase you're going to listen to what suits YOUR beliefs, and the right is going to listen to what suits THEIRS.
It gets kind of tiring and ridiculous at the end of the day, frankly.
Yes, it does. It's gotten crazy this politicizing freaking holidays...here's some rep for you, you selfish bastard!Of course. But I don't need to be happy to see libertarian dweebs writing revisionist history.
Like the left never tries to 'revise' history
How about this...
None of us were alive or present during this time period, so none of us REALLY know what happened. Let's just leave it at that and move on, becuase you're going to listen to what suits YOUR beliefs, and the right is going to listen to what suits THEIRS.
It gets kind of tiring and ridiculous at the end of the day, frankly.
The less industrious members of the colony came late to their work in the fields, and were slow and easy in their labors. Knowing that they and their families were to receive an equal share of whatever the group produced, they saw little reason to be more diligent in their efforts. The harder working among the colonists became resentful that their efforts would be redistributed to the more malingering members of the colony. Soon they, too, were coming late to work and were less energetic in the fields.
There are obvious problems with the extrapolation of elements of "private enterprise" of a heavily agrarian period in which market exchange was characterized by independent farmers and artisans to a heavily industrialized period of corporate capitalism characterized by limited social mobility and inequality of opportunity. To add insult to injury, this article seems to operate with a poor technical understanding of socialist/communist economic theory. Apart from the common failure to distinguish between productive "private" property and personal "possessive" property as used in Marxist terminology (watch factories are collectively managed; watches aren't), this was a lovely gem:
The less industrious members of the colony came late to their work in the fields, and were slow and easy in their labors. Knowing that they and their families were to receive an equal share of whatever the group produced, they saw little reason to be more diligent in their efforts. The harder working among the colonists became resentful that their efforts would be redistributed to the more malingering members of the colony. Soon they, too, were coming late to work and were less energetic in the fields.
How is "communism" compatible with assignment of labor without consideration of varying abilities? That seems to fly directly in the face of communism, inasmuch as it entails distribution of labor assignments based on abilities. Compensation offered without consideration of labor performance also seems quite at odds with socialism and its meritocratic nature (as it's reliant on labor performance measurement to determine remuneration), and more akin to capitalism and its remuneration mechanism for the product yielded by the result of the combination of one's labor and one's capital...which means that those with much capital can labor less than those with little.
In short, like the idiotic story about the wise university professor and the naive egalitarian class, this is another empty, pathetic, and intellectually bankrupt anti-socialist chain message, just as creationists will often distribute scientifically ignorant commentary in an attempt to "dispute" evolution.
However, I am not surprised to see another little mythical story advanced that ignores the nature of the brutal slaughter of the indigenous American population, which was the most widespread and long-lasting genocide the world has ever known. As long as so-called Western democracies are permitted to maintain state policies of ethnoreligious supremacy of a certain group and retain the title of "the only democracy in the Middle East," I don't expect much attention to be paid to that issue, of course.
Thanksgiving for the realists among us.
The Buzz Log - Myths and Facts About Thanksgiving - Yahoo! Buzz
Thanksgiving Day Facts: Pilgrims, Dinner, Parades, More
The first Thanksgiving | csmonitor.com
from above links
"But it's the 1621 Plimoth Thanksgiving that's linked to the birth of our modern holiday. The truth is the first "real" Thanksgiving happened two centuries later."
"In the culture of the Wampanoag Indians, who inhabited the area around Cape Cod, "thanksgiving" was an everyday activity.
"We as native people [traditionally] have thanksgivings as a daily, ongoing thing," says Linda Coombs, associate director of the Wampanoag program at Plimoth Plantation. "Every time anybody went hunting or fishing or picked a plant, they would offer a prayer or acknowledgment.""
I gather that you lacked an interest in rebuttal of my comments. Thank you for making that apparent.
