The Shutdown has almost cost as much as Trump Requested so far.

Is it Stupid to lose more money on the Shutdown than the amount requested by Trump?


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What is he willing to give in exchange?
damn near anything you want, including, but mot limited to, signing off on Obama's DACA plan & even a potential pathway to citizenship for dreamers
Why did he agree to and then reject exactly that when it was offered a year ago?
That is not what haooened

He offered DACA for the wall, including a path to citizenship for 1.8 million "dreamers" and got no funds for the wall

The immigration deal Trump should've taken, but didn't

As we discussed at the time, the basic contours of the deal were straightforward: Schumer was willing to accept funding for a border wall in exchange for DACA protections for Dreamers.

After Trump negotiated the terms, the White House balked: Chief of Staff John Kelly called Schumer soon after to explain the plan wasn’t far enough to the right for Republicans. Trump himself declared that he’d need far more in any deal, including significant cuts to legal immigration.

I’m reminded of something Slate’s Jim Newell wrote back in Matrch:

[All Trump] had to do was accept a 10- to 14-year path to citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants brought to the United States at a young age.

That deal has been on the table for more than a month now: Trump gives Democrats a path to citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers; Democrats give Trump his full $25 billion wall funding request. […]

It is confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.

That was published nearly nine months ago. It’s still confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.

"Far enough to the right" to provide 5 billion, 0.00% of the budget for a wall?

Oh my god, these guys are to the right of Hitler.

Meanwhile in the actual reality, Democrats are engaging in Hitler style dysgenic programs, playing with population replacement. Build that wall...
Good lord...not another silly Hitler reference...
 
damn near anything you want, including, but mot limited to, signing off on Obama's DACA plan & even a potential pathway to citizenship for dreamers
Why did he agree to and then reject exactly that when it was offered a year ago?
That is not what haooened

He offered DACA for the wall, including a path to citizenship for 1.8 million "dreamers" and got no funds for the wall

The immigration deal Trump should've taken, but didn't

As we discussed at the time, the basic contours of the deal were straightforward: Schumer was willing to accept funding for a border wall in exchange for DACA protections for Dreamers.

After Trump negotiated the terms, the White House balked: Chief of Staff John Kelly called Schumer soon after to explain the plan wasn’t far enough to the right for Republicans. Trump himself declared that he’d need far more in any deal, including significant cuts to legal immigration.

I’m reminded of something Slate’s Jim Newell wrote back in Matrch:

[All Trump] had to do was accept a 10- to 14-year path to citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants brought to the United States at a young age.

That deal has been on the table for more than a month now: Trump gives Democrats a path to citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers; Democrats give Trump his full $25 billion wall funding request. […]

It is confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.

That was published nearly nine months ago. It’s still confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.

"Far enough to the right" to provide 5 billion, 0.00% of the budget for a wall?

Oh my god, these guys are to the right of Hitler.

Meanwhile in the actual reality, Democrats are engaging in Hitler style dysgenic programs, playing with population replacement. Build that wall...
Good lord...not another silly Hitler reference...

Cut the crap, we all know what the intention of your propaganda article was. Fact is there is nothing "far right" about a country having a border. You can call it extremist common sense if you wish.
 
Border Security: Immigration Enforcement Between Ports of Entry

Read all you want..........or go to CNN and say WALLS BAAAAAADDDDD..............

The left is full of it and is spending more than requested. What a Bunch of Wankers.

Hey Wanker, why don't you have a read on the border security deal Republicans don't want:

Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 - Wikipedia
Diversity illegal Lottery and Amnesty...........derp...........Gang of 8 was a joke...........

They would have gotten their amnesty and then never did the deed............Under Obama everything was Dreamers and legalization..........

You want DACA............fund the wall.

Republicans get bulletproof border security, Democrats get get path to citizenship and this would cause a drastic reduction in illegals.

Don't want to compromise and do the comprehensive reform? Fine, fuck off with your wall.
aka You just stated that you are AFTER AMNESTY...............Fuck off with your AMNESTY.........

Isn't that quaint............Time to challenge the courts on letting the military build the wall........14.1 million yards of concrete at a cost of materials of about 589 million dollars............LABOR IS FREE...

Then pour salt in your wounds after.........You see..........the Seabees will kick your ass and then build an emergency room to heal your wounds...........LOL
 
The LUNACY of the Democrats continues..........The cost of the shut down quickly approaches the amount requested by Trump over the CR resolution. In about a week we will lose more than REQUESTED.

https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...hutdown-has-cost-us-economy-36-billion-so-far

THE U.S. ECONOMY HAS lost $3.6 billion because of the ongoing partial government shutdown, according to an analysis by Standard & Poor's Global Ratings. It will only take another two weeks for the shutdown to cost the economy $5.7 billion – the same amount that the White House has requested for President Donald Trump's border wall.


The article says 2 weeks.........My 1 week is based on they authorized 1.6 Billion in the CR.

Now HOW STUPID IS THIS?????????
Can’t let this tactic become precident

Obama should have declared a national emergency over climate change.

If the government is shut down isn’t this move saving us money?
 
Why did he agree to and then reject exactly that when it was offered a year ago?
That is not what haooened

He offered DACA for the wall, including a path to citizenship for 1.8 million "dreamers" and got no funds for the wall

The immigration deal Trump should've taken, but didn't

As we discussed at the time, the basic contours of the deal were straightforward: Schumer was willing to accept funding for a border wall in exchange for DACA protections for Dreamers.

After Trump negotiated the terms, the White House balked: Chief of Staff John Kelly called Schumer soon after to explain the plan wasn’t far enough to the right for Republicans. Trump himself declared that he’d need far more in any deal, including significant cuts to legal immigration.

I’m reminded of something Slate’s Jim Newell wrote back in Matrch:

[All Trump] had to do was accept a 10- to 14-year path to citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants brought to the United States at a young age.

That deal has been on the table for more than a month now: Trump gives Democrats a path to citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers; Democrats give Trump his full $25 billion wall funding request. […]

It is confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.

That was published nearly nine months ago. It’s still confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.

"Far enough to the right" to provide 5 billion, 0.00% of the budget for a wall?

Oh my god, these guys are to the right of Hitler.

Meanwhile in the actual reality, Democrats are engaging in Hitler style dysgenic programs, playing with population replacement. Build that wall...
Good lord...not another silly Hitler reference...

Cut the crap, we all know what the intention of your propaganda article was.
We all know Trump was offered his wall for DACA...and he turned it down because he wanted more. I guess border security wasn’t that important.
 
The LUNACY of the Democrats continues..........The cost of the shut down quickly approaches the amount requested by Trump over the CR resolution. In about a week we will lose more than REQUESTED.

https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...hutdown-has-cost-us-economy-36-billion-so-far

THE U.S. ECONOMY HAS lost $3.6 billion because of the ongoing partial government shutdown, according to an analysis by Standard & Poor's Global Ratings. It will only take another two weeks for the shutdown to cost the economy $5.7 billion – the same amount that the White House has requested for President Donald Trump's border wall.


The article says 2 weeks.........My 1 week is based on they authorized 1.6 Billion in the CR.

Now HOW STUPID IS THIS?????????
Can’t let this tactic become precident

Obama should have declared a national emergency over climate change.

If the government is shut down isn’t this move saving us money?
 
The LUNACY of the Democrats continues..........The cost of the shut down quickly approaches the amount requested by Trump over the CR resolution. In about a week we will lose more than REQUESTED.

https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...hutdown-has-cost-us-economy-36-billion-so-far

THE U.S. ECONOMY HAS lost $3.6 billion because of the ongoing partial government shutdown, according to an analysis by Standard & Poor's Global Ratings. It will only take another two weeks for the shutdown to cost the economy $5.7 billion – the same amount that the White House has requested for President Donald Trump's border wall.


The article says 2 weeks.........My 1 week is based on they authorized 1.6 Billion in the CR.

Now HOW STUPID IS THIS?????????
Can’t let this tactic become precident

Obama should have declared a national emergency over climate change.

If the government is shut down isn’t this move saving us money?
Not when those furloughed get paid anyway.........the loses are the revenues from stuff shut down........and Gov't contracts on hold.
 
The LUNACY of the Democrats continues..........The cost of the shut down quickly approaches the amount requested by Trump over the CR resolution. In about a week we will lose more than REQUESTED.

https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...hutdown-has-cost-us-economy-36-billion-so-far

THE U.S. ECONOMY HAS lost $3.6 billion because of the ongoing partial government shutdown, according to an analysis by Standard & Poor's Global Ratings. It will only take another two weeks for the shutdown to cost the economy $5.7 billion – the same amount that the White House has requested for President Donald Trump's border wall.


The article says 2 weeks.........My 1 week is based on they authorized 1.6 Billion in the CR.

Now HOW STUPID IS THIS?????????
Why are you pointing a finger at the Democrats.....tiny trump said he was proud to take responsibility for the shutdown. Have you already forgotten? Here:
 
Our beloved president said to Schumer that he will take the blame foe the shutdown.
We already had the funding from lost revenues because your side doesn't care about securing the border. Don't give me that BS about how you really want it. Actions speak louder than words. Sanctuary cities, Health Care for illegals, Drivers Licenses to illegals..........says all we need to hear from you.
I have no side, but your president took the blame.
Sure...........and no I don't want that Ocean Front Property in Arizona you are selling..........We should Fence California in and keep the mexicans. LOL
It's true.....from tiny trump's own pouty mouth:
 
That is not what haooened

He offered DACA for the wall, including a path to citizenship for 1.8 million "dreamers" and got no funds for the wall

The immigration deal Trump should've taken, but didn't

As we discussed at the time, the basic contours of the deal were straightforward: Schumer was willing to accept funding for a border wall in exchange for DACA protections for Dreamers.

After Trump negotiated the terms, the White House balked: Chief of Staff John Kelly called Schumer soon after to explain the plan wasn’t far enough to the right for Republicans. Trump himself declared that he’d need far more in any deal, including significant cuts to legal immigration.

I’m reminded of something Slate’s Jim Newell wrote back in Matrch:

[All Trump] had to do was accept a 10- to 14-year path to citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants brought to the United States at a young age.

That deal has been on the table for more than a month now: Trump gives Democrats a path to citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers; Democrats give Trump his full $25 billion wall funding request. […]

It is confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.

That was published nearly nine months ago. It’s still confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.

"Far enough to the right" to provide 5 billion, 0.00% of the budget for a wall?

Oh my god, these guys are to the right of Hitler.

Meanwhile in the actual reality, Democrats are engaging in Hitler style dysgenic programs, playing with population replacement. Build that wall...
Good lord...not another silly Hitler reference...

Cut the crap, we all know what the intention of your propaganda article was.
We all know Trump was offered his wall for DACA...and he turned it down because he wanted more. I guess border security wasn’t that important.

And why would have he not? DACA is a disaster, there is no reason to approve of it.

There also is nothing extremist about ending DACA and building a wall.

This is called, wait for it:

COUNTRY UPHOLDING ITS LAWS.

Once again, extremist common sense. You are welcome.
 
and fvck Trump ......
Which is why the left will not approve the money even while we lose more in the process.

TDS shutdown..........imagine that.


re: post # 45 ......... you are welcome .........
A Trust fund over 10 years that would have given the Dems path for DACA immediately..........then screw Trump after..........Would reject the funds later.....LOL

Reagan fell for that crap in 1986. That law was supposed to make it impossible to work here. They just set up phony ID networks and falsified the I-9 forms...........when caught the worker gets deported and the business says we didn't know.

Millions of Amnesty for it..............Not again bro...........that money is up front.

you are welcome .......
 
Our beloved president said to Schumer that he will take the blame foe the shutdown.
We already had the funding from lost revenues because your side doesn't care about securing the border. Don't give me that BS about how you really want it. Actions speak louder than words. Sanctuary cities, Health Care for illegals, Drivers Licenses to illegals..........says all we need to hear from you.
I have no side, but your president took the blame.
Sure...........and no I don't want that Ocean Front Property in Arizona you are selling..........We should Fence California in and keep the mexicans. LOL
I would love for California to be independent.
 
Our beloved president said to Schumer that he will take the blame foe the shutdown.
We already had the funding from lost revenues because your side doesn't care about securing the border. Don't give me that BS about how you really want it. Actions speak louder than words. Sanctuary cities, Health Care for illegals, Drivers Licenses to illegals..........says all we need to hear from you.
I have no side, but your president took the blame.
Sure...........and no I don't want that Ocean Front Property in Arizona you are selling..........We should Fence California in and keep the mexicans. LOL
I would love for California to be independent.
So WOULD I.
 
Our beloved president said to Schumer that he will take the blame foe the shutdown.
We already had the funding from lost revenues because your side doesn't care about securing the border. Don't give me that BS about how you really want it. Actions speak louder than words. Sanctuary cities, Health Care for illegals, Drivers Licenses to illegals..........says all we need to hear from you.
I have no side, but your president took the blame.
Sure...........and no I don't want that Ocean Front Property in Arizona you are selling..........We should Fence California in and keep the mexicans. LOL
I would love for California to be independent.
So WOULD I.
Shithole red states produce only hate anyway.
 
We already had the funding from lost revenues because your side doesn't care about securing the border. Don't give me that BS about how you really want it. Actions speak louder than words. Sanctuary cities, Health Care for illegals, Drivers Licenses to illegals..........says all we need to hear from you.
I have no side, but your president took the blame.
Sure...........and no I don't want that Ocean Front Property in Arizona you are selling..........We should Fence California in and keep the mexicans. LOL
I would love for California to be independent.
So WOULD I.
Shithole red states produce only hate anyway.
LEAVE.........we will not miss you.
 
The immigration deal Trump should've taken, but didn't

As we discussed at the time, the basic contours of the deal were straightforward: Schumer was willing to accept funding for a border wall in exchange for DACA protections for Dreamers.

After Trump negotiated the terms, the White House balked: Chief of Staff John Kelly called Schumer soon after to explain the plan wasn’t far enough to the right for Republicans. Trump himself declared that he’d need far more in any deal, including significant cuts to legal immigration.

I’m reminded of something Slate’s Jim Newell wrote back in Matrch:

[All Trump] had to do was accept a 10- to 14-year path to citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants brought to the United States at a young age.

That deal has been on the table for more than a month now: Trump gives Democrats a path to citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers; Democrats give Trump his full $25 billion wall funding request. […]

It is confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.

That was published nearly nine months ago. It’s still confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.

"Far enough to the right" to provide 5 billion, 0.00% of the budget for a wall?

Oh my god, these guys are to the right of Hitler.

Meanwhile in the actual reality, Democrats are engaging in Hitler style dysgenic programs, playing with population replacement. Build that wall...
Good lord...not another silly Hitler reference...

Cut the crap, we all know what the intention of your propaganda article was.
We all know Trump was offered his wall for DACA...and he turned it down because he wanted more. I guess border security wasn’t that important.

And why would have he not? DACA is a disaster, there is no reason to approve of it.

There also is nothing extremist about ending DACA and building a wall.

This is called, wait for it:

COUNTRY UPHOLDING ITS LAWS.

Once again, extremist common sense. You are welcome.

A wall is extremist.

Common sense says if you want something you need to give something in return. The Art of the Deal.
 

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