The seeds for impeachment were planted, ironically, by Russia.

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    After the "sweeping and systematic".........................................
    Mueller: The "Russian government interfered in our election in sweeping and systematic fashion"
    Mueller: The "Russian government interfered in our election in sweeping and systematic fashion"

    .....................campaign launched by Vlad inside the US to help President Skidmark get elected, it's ironic that their efforts to shift the blame for their actions on to Ukraine would lead to Crooked Donald's impeachment.

    'Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine': When Russian disinformation met a Trump obsession
    The Kremlin may have been laying the groundwork for blaming Ukraine for 2016 as early as 2015.
    'Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine': When Russian disinformation met a Trump obsession

    "Three weeks after Election Day 2016, the Kremlin officially floated a theory that would ultimately lead to only the third presidential impeachment in U.S. history.

    “Ukraine seriously complicated the work of Trump’s election by planting information” aimed at damaging his campaign chairman Paul Manafort, a spokeswoman for Russia’s Foreign Ministry told reporters on Nov. 30, 2016, accusing the Ukrainian government of scheming to help elect Hillary Clinton."
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    It was fitting to see the attorneys who represent a man whose whole life has been shrouded in lies stand on the Senate floor yesterday and tell repeated lies in his defense.
     
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    The "Russian government interfered in our election in sweeping and systematic fashion"

    Russian memes are the worst!!!
     
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    are you implying that the dems are working with russians to impeach trump??
     
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    I'm pointing out after all they did to get Trump elected it's ironic an effort to cover it up lead to the Ukraine extortion scheme and ultimately........impeachment.
     
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    but that never happened,,,

    thats your TDS making you think that,,
     
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    Read and learn.

    Stop Using the Word “Collusion”—How to Frame the Critical Question at the Heart of Trump-Russia
    Stop Using the Word “Collusion”—How to Frame the Critical Question at the Heart of Trump-Russia - Just Security

    At one end of the spectrum is an overreliance on the word “collusion.” The word is a slippery one essentially without any legal or settled meaning outside of very specific contexts, like antitrust law. The general definition of collusion, according to Merriam-Webster dictionary, is a “secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal deceitful purpose.” But because this definition is not necessarily well-known or agreed upon, it allows some people to claim they have seen no direct evidence of Trump campaign “collusion” with Russia, and others to claim they have. Journalists still ask members of Congress, the White House, and witnesses in the Russia investigation about “collusion” or allow officials and others to invoke the term “collusion” without specifying what they mean.

    On the other end of the spectrum is the more precise legal definition of “collusion,” which is “conspiracy.” But because conspiracy is a criminal law term, it may be too narrow: The legal definition of conspiracy requires specific behaviors and states of mind that may not be present in various forms of coordinated activity against the interests of the United States. Further, focusing only on the criminal aspect does not capture the policy and national security concerns at the heart of the Special Counsel’s counterintelligence investigation, concerns that remain whether or not crimes were committed.

    We suggest a different way of asking and framing “the question of collusion” to obtain more analytic precision, and to get to the heart of Trump campaign associates’ possible relationships with Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.

    To wit, we recommend the following five kinds of questions instead. These are stylized as questions a journalist might pose to an interviewee, such as a member of a congressional committee. We believe that these formulations better describe the problematic behavior, actions, and activities at the heart of Mueller’s investigation, and avoid both the ambiguity of the word “collusion” and the legalese associated with the word “conspiracy.” We also hope these five lines of inquiry may help commentators in analyzing and writing about these issues.

    1. Are you aware of any direct or circumstantial evidence that Trump campaign associates coordinated with, cooperated with, encouraged, or gave support to Russia’s 2016 election interference activities?

    2. Wikileaks

    Are you aware of any direct or circumstantial evidence of Trump campaign associates’ coordinating with, cooperating with, encouraging, or giving support to Wikileaks’ election-related activities?

    Relatedly, do you agree with the U.S. Intelligence Community’s report that Wikileaks was used by the Russian government as an arm of the Kremlin’s 2016 election interference activities?

    3. Are you aware of any direct or circumstantial evidence that Trump campaign associates attempted to coordinate with, cooperate with, encourage, or give support to Russia’s 2016 election interference activities?

    4. Are you aware of any direct or circumstantial evidence that Trump campaign associates were willing to coordinate with, cooperate with, encourage, or give support to Russia’s 2016 election interference activities, or were receptive to doing so?

    5. What is your definition of “Trump campaign associates”?

    Do you consider people like Roger Stone and Michael Cohen part of the Trump campaign? Do you consider people like Roger Stone and Michael Cohen to be Trump campaign associates?
     
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    2. Wikileaks

    They were the worst. They should not be allowed to publish evidence of DNC corruption or Hillary's corruption.
    Democrat corruption must remain hidden. Always. All Dem whistleblowers must be punished!!!

    3. Are you aware of any direct or circumstantial evidence that Trump campaign associates attempted to coordinate with, cooperate with, encourage, or give support to Russia’s 2016 election interference activities?

    I agree, only the liberal media must be allowed to coordinate with, cooperate with, encourage, or give support to Democrat election activities.
     
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    Why is it ironic? You Dimwingers have been Putin's Puppets since Trump trounced Hillary.
     
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    It frightens me when I see a Trumpette refuse to accept objective reality. Therefore, I'm frightened all the time.
     

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