The Scandal Trump Can't Lie His Way Out Of

[radical right]

Does this mean Mueller is now free to prosecute Flynn based on his "queen for a day" confessions? Along with Flynns son.
Do they make a card for that, "Thanks Dad, for my indictment" signed Flynn Jr.

REPORT: Mike Flynn Moving To Withdraw Guilty Plea. Here's Why.

There is no exculpatory evidence for Flynns lying to the FBI. FLynn talked to Kisyliak, and he talked to him about sanctions. They have him on NSA intercept of the russian ambassador.

 

[JBond]

Does this mean Mueller is now free to prosecute Flynn based on his "queen for a day" confessions? Along with Flynns son.
Do they make a card for that, "Thanks Dad, for my indictment" signed Flynn Jr.

REPORT: Mike Flynn Moving To Withdraw Guilty Plea. Here's Why.

There is no exculpatory evidence for Flynns lying to the FBI. FLynn talked to Kisyliak, and he talked to him about sanctions. They have him on NSA intercept of the russian ambassador.

Link?

 

[radical right]

Flynn will walk...

Flynn already talked. Actually it doesn't make a difference if he withdraws his guilty plea. The caged bird already sang.

 

[radical right]

There is no exculpatory evidence for Flynns lying to the FBI. FLynn talked to Kisyliak, and he talked to him about sanctions. They have him on NSA intercept of the russian ambassador.

Link?

That's from the "unmasking" controversy. Read a history book on it.

 

[radical right]

Michael Flynn says he's cooperating with Robert Mueller

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

It's pretty easy to see why Faux News peddles to the ALT-Right Weak Whyte Rural citizens. These people easily feed on Propoganda and their minds can feed on Russian motives.

Carlson Tucker would agree.

 

[Lakhota]

The Rob Porter scandal has also blown the lid off the White House security clearance scandal. Should be an interesting press briefing this afternoon.

 

[Rambunctious]

I told you snowflakes Flynn will walk and you all laughed like little girls...little girls named Fuan and Hutch Buuuuuaaaahahahahahahahaha!

 

[Lakhota]

I told you snowflakes Flynn will walk and you all laughed like little girls...little girls named Fuan and Hutch Buuuuuaaaahahahahahahahaha!

Stop spreading fake news from the Federalist. It's all bullshit. Flynn has already spilled his guts and signed a plea deal. It's done.

 

[radical right]

I told you snowflakes Flynn will walk and you all laughed like little girls...little girls named Fuan and Hutch Buuuuuaaaahahahahahahahaha!

Brady v. Maryland,373 U.S. 83 (1963) sets the standards,

In the 2002 case United States v. Ruiz,536 U.S. 622 (2002) the Supreme Court examined the question of a defense right to discovery in plea bargaining, but ultimately found this right had not been violated. [Ruiz, 536 U.S. at 625] Instead, the Court decided, in part, that a defendant did not have a constitutional right to impeachment information before pleading guilty.

 

[radical right]

The Court specifically rejected the lower court’s finding that failure to disclose impeachment evidence violated the requirement that the plea be voluntary, holding instead that “impeachment information is special in relation to the fairness of the trial, not in respect to whether a plea is voluntary.”Ruiz, 536 U.S. at 629

 

[radical right]

The Ruiz case illustrates the overall attitude the Court holds towards plea bargaining. The Court was concerned that requiring disclosure of impeachment information would “seriously interfere with the Government’s interest in securing those guilty pleas that are factually justified, desired by defendants, and help to secure the efficient administration of justice.”Ruiz, 536 U.S. at 631 Through this statement, the Court made it clear that its main concern, in addition to efficiency, was the “accuracy” of the plea, which means that the Court was satisfied of the defendant’s guilt and considered pleading guilty an acceptable outcome.

In Ruiz, the Court applied the Brady standard Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83, 87 (1963).

 

[radical right]

Buuuuuaaaahahahahahahahaha!

 

[Dragonlady]

And today we hear Flynn will withdrawal his plea by advisement of the prosecutor Robert Mueller....


BUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA I told you butthead libs....

Margot Cleveland wrote an article for the Federalist saying Flynn should withdraw his plea and that a motion to withdraw his plea is “likely in the works”. No evidence or other confirmation of this motion is provided.

How A Michael Flynn Plea Reversal Could Uncover Federal Corruption

The author has no quotes from Flynn, his lawyers or anyone else actually connected to the case. Her speculation is based entirely on the judge adding a line to the Order relating to the guilty plea, ordering the FBI to turn over any exculpatory evidence in their possession to Flynn’s lawyers.

Ms. Cleveland does admit that this judge adds this particular line to all of his orders, but then goes on to suggest that everyone connected to this case has tons of evidence which will clear Flynn and his lawyers are “likely” to withdraw his plea.

This was bit of speculation then picked up by the Daily Wire and the Daily Caller in a typical alt-right circle jerk and presented as Flynn will withdraw his plea.

This is what is passed off as “facts” in conservative media.

 

[BertramN]

Trump White House Finally Confronts A Scandal It Can’t Quash With An ‘Alternative Fact’

#MeToo and photos of an ex-wife’s bruised eye forced Trump’s staff to back away from original explanations – and shredded the president’s credibility even further.

WASHINGTON – From their first full day in office with claims of massive, record-setting inaugural crowds, President Donald Trump and his top aides have been a virtual juggernaut of dishonesties and falsehoods, seemingly immune to normal White House standards of candor and accuracy.

Until this month.

Two weeks’ worth of shifting explanations about a key staffer accused of domestic violence have accomplished what a full year of fact-checking thousands of untruths could not: put the White House on the defensive and shredded its credibility.

“At long last, something Donald Trump couldn’t bullshit his way out of,” said Rick Wilson, a Florida GOP consultant who has been calling Trump a liar since the start of presidential primary campaign in 2015.

But why has the Rob Porter story persisted when all the others did not?

“Attachment to a larger narrative and a provocative visual,” said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a communications professor and director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania.

The larger narrative is the Me Too movement, where women across the country and around the world have spoken out about long-quashed experiences of sexual harassment and abuse. And the provocative visual was the photograph of Colbie Holderness’ bruised eye, which she said was the result of a punch Porter threw during the couple’s vacation to Italy in 2005.

Until that photo of Porter’s first ex-wife surfaced, White House chief of staff John Kelly had been offering testimonials for his trusted aide. With the arrival of Kelly in August and his attempts to bring order to what had been a chaotic White House, Porter as staff secretary had become a key player in limiting access and information to Trump.

His work, under Kelly’s direction, dramatically reduced the unscheduled visits Trump received from random West Wing staffers and the number of unverified “news” articles that wound up on his desk.

To protect his aide and ally, Kelly and other top White House staffers praised Porter, even though the White House had received a full FBI security clearance background investigation into Porter last summer, according to Senate testimony by bureau director Christopher Wray. That report almost certainly included stories of abuse from both of Porter’s ex-wifes – allegations that typically doom a security clearance approval.

All of that changed when the photo spread across the internet and cable television, putting a human face on Porter’s alleged actions. That set off a dizzying series of revised statements. At first, the White House claimed that Porter resigned on his own but would stay on through a “transition.” But within a day, that had evolved into Kelly having forced Porter to leave within 40 minutes of seeing the photo.

“I think the photo had a real impact on people,” said Rick Tyler, a Republican political consultant who worked for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz in the 2016 GOP primaries. “They went into their normal mode, which is deflect everything, deny everything, fake news everything.”

The problem for the White House was that journalists could see the new explanations contradicting others issued just hours earlier and were quick to point them out. This angered even reporters who in the past year have enjoyed good access to top White House staff.

“Normally reporters don’t know a lie is a lie in real time,” said a Republican official who supports Trump and spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly discuss his party’s leader. “I’m amazed that this is a story that keeps going. They haven’t found a way to put this thing away.”

More: Trump White House Finally Confronts A Scandal It Can’t Quash With An ‘Alternative Fact'

Trump can't lie his way out of this one or pull his fake news routine. There is too much evidence - and women are pissed. Should be an interesting press briefing tomorrow.

Conservatives, both men and women, believe it is a man's God given right as owner of his spouse to beat, belittle, and sexually abuse not only his spouse, but any other women he wants.

Conservatives can cite Bible references that guarantee this right, and no law or women's complaints are going to change their minds. Their biblical interpretations in defense of Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore's pedophilia are an example of the conservatives' complete acceptance of the many sexual deviants they've elected or tried to put into office.

They defend the "orange haired pu$$y grabber" who boasted of his illegal attacks, but still b!tch about Bill Clinton's consensual exploits with Monica Lewinsky. Conservatives are proving they are a sick bunch.

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[radical right]

I told you snowflakes Flynn will walk and you all laughed like little girls...little girls named Fuan and Hutch Buuuuuaaaahahahahahahahaha!

Stop spreading fake news from the Federalist. It's all bullshit. Flynn has already spilled his guts and signed a plea deal. It's done.

USSC, Brady, Ruiz, and several other cases say that impeachment evidence is not a requirement for a plea bargain. But is a requirement before sentencing. If Flynn is attempting to apply the sentencing requirement to his plea of guilty, he will not find any current case law to support it. (see previous posts)

 

[radical right]

Ms. Cleveland does admit that this judge adds this particular line to all of his orders, but then goes on to suggest that everyone connected to this case has tons of evidence which will clear Flynn and his lawyers are “likely” to withdraw his plea.

This was bit of speculation then picked up by the Daily Wire and the Daily Caller in a typical alt-right circle jerk and presented as Flynn will withdraw his plea.

This is what is passed of as “facts” in conservative media.

The judges requirement is from Brady v. Maryland,373 U.S. 83 (1963)
which is a requirement that impeachment evidence be provided to the defendant before sentencing.

This may be simply a case of Flynn trying to get a lighter sentence.

 

[radical right]

Anybody have any post 2012 case law to support Flynn being able to withdraw from his plea agreement.

 

[Two Thumbs]

did trump commit a crime?

no?

then this will not get him impeached either.

 

[radical right]

did trump commit a crime?

no?

then this will not get him impeached either.

The president doesn't have to commit a crime to get impeached.