The Right To Bear Arms

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Daniel san? Doko e?

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Daniel-san?

Omae wa doko e?

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Does Daniel ever respond when we provide quotes from founders that demonstrate their intent, which is hostile to his interpretation? Has he ever questioned or provided contrary information evidencing intent?

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

 

[Cellblock2429]

Here it is again.

"The great object is, that every man be armed ... Every one who is able may have a gun."
-- Patrick Henry, Elliot, p.3:386

/——/ Gun grabbers are not rational.

 

[danielpalos]

Can you cite where in our Second Amendment it states that the People who are the unorganized militia are necessary to the security of a free State.

"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

Nothing in the 2A says that a well-regulated militia is necessary for the right to bear arms. Look at Madison's quote and respond, motherfucker.

Quit avoiding the founders' words.

I am not claiming that. Only well regulated militia are necessary to the security of a free State, and shall not be Infringed, as a result.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, when I am citing our Constitution.

When you are ass-backwards bullshit interpreting it?

WE must look at the words of the authors to shove your bullshit interpretations straight up your ass. Which I have.

VICTORY

You have to cite how, not just claim it.

 

[danielpalos]

It used to make more sense.

So, I am right?

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State, not an Individual right to not be Infringed.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State, not an Individual right to not be Infringed.

But, then, how do you explain this?

That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

 

[danielpalos]

I am just going to keep quoting these two until danielpalos responds to them:

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

Natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions, and available via Due Process.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not Individual rights.

 

[danielpalos]

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State, not an Individual right to not be Infringed.

But, then, how do you explain this?

That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

Has nothing to do with our Second Amendment.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You have to cite how, not just claim it.

What about this:

That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Has nothing to do with our Second Amendment.

Then, what the fuck are they talking about, genius?



That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So, danielpalos argues that this:

"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

has nothing to do with our 2nd Amendment.





Keep digging, danny.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I am going to let this quote sink in for you, Daniel-san:

"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

No response to this below?

"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

 

[danielpalos]

You have to cite how, not just claim it.

What about this:

That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

Natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions not our Second Amendment.

 

[danielpalos]

Has nothing to do with our Second Amendment.

Then, what the fuck are they talking about, genius?



That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

Nothing to do with our Second Amendment.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The 2A was intended to limit Congress and prevent Congress from infringing on our individual rights because of those two quotes.

You have been destroyed. Lick my asshole.

 

[danielpalos]

So, danielpalos argues that this:

"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

has nothing to do with our 2nd Amendment.





Keep digging, danny.

Yup. Only well regulated militia are necessary to the security of a free State.

 

[danielpalos]

I am going to let this quote sink in for you, Daniel-san:

"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

Well regulated militia are People too.