The Right To Bear Arms

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    More: Is the Second Amendment obsolete? - The Week
     
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    Maybe not obsolete but antiquated, out of date...

    ... it needs to be updated to reflect the times...

    ... and the threat of overkill firepower...

    ... for the average citizen.
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    Yipper it's as obsolete as a muzzle loader imho.
     
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    It's definitely not the most important amendment, like most conservatives argue, but it's not obsolete. We're the United Freakin States. We were founded on a revolutionary crazy notion that people are allowed to be as free as they want.

    If you take away that crazy, then we're closer to being like the French. And no one wants that.
     
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    The courts will say no.
     
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    We aren't going back to bows and arrows. Sorry.
     
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    I am also a gun lover, but the 2nd Amendment will be changed. It's just a matter of time...
     
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    The Constitution exist only in the context of its case law, as interpreted by the Supreme Court, as authorized by the doctrine of judicial review.

    Neither the Constitution nor any of its Amendments are ‘obsolete.’

    Whatever the current case law might be concerning the Second Amendment, however, further restrictions, regulations, or even bans will do little to curtail gun violence.

    The genius of the Constitution is it compels us to seek actual solutions to our many problems; be it abortion, campaign finance reform, or gun violence, the Constitution prevents us from taking the ‘easy route’ often taken by dictatorships and totalitarian regimes, where the liberty of the people is destroyed.

    This does not mean we are helpless to do nothing, at the mercy of strict, unyielding jurisprudence protecting the rights of gun owners; rather, it means we must find solutions based on facts and evidence, and be prepared to address and acknowledge painful, embarrassing aspects of our society and culture.
     
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    The second amendment was put into the consitution to fight fascist like you bastards. Our founders knew what big government dictators were all about.

    Hell no it isn't out dated or obsolete.
     
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    Trying to live modern life according to the Constitution is much like trying to live modern life according to the Bible. Both are subject to vast interpretation.
     
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    well congrats to all the liberals here.

    The people that claim to be the authors of the Constitution

    In openly admitting that freedom is so passe.


    thank you for your honesty
     
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    They're masters of using things against their enemies. They want a BIG government that rules over this nation in the same way as Hugo Chavez, Castro or Kim jong UN.

    FUCK YOU LEFTIST. YOU won't get my guns, assholes!
     
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    fyi; the Second Amendment allows you to have the other amendments.

    For those totally ignorant of history
     
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    Yep,

    Without the second the government can just take all of our rights away.
     
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    A well armed popalance is respected by government
    A disarmed popalance is dictated to by government
     
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    Obama signs NDAA and you voted for this moron, no?
     
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    Oh please. What do you think, congresspeople sit around and say, "ooo we'd better not pass that law... Matthew will get his gun and shoot us!!" Give me a frickin' break. Go ahead and try to form a militia group or whatever. See how far you get before you're all squashed like bugs.

    It's populace btw, not populance.
     
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    Are you saying you want freedom loving, Constitution following Americans to get killed?
     

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