The Right To Bear Arms

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The unorganized militia is not declared necessary to the security of a free State.

Did you even read the motherfucking quote?

Quit "appealing to ignorance" and read the damn quotes.

 

[danielpalos]

That is up to Congress.

No. See post #4356.

They specifically didn't want Congress to have control.




"The great object is, that every man be armed ... Every one who is able may have a gun."
-- Patrick Henry, Elliot, p.3:386

That doesn't sound like a militia right to me.

Right wing propaganda. Congress must prescribe wellness of regulation for the militia of the United States.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You never respond to the evidence, do you?


"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress ... to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.... "
--Samuel Adams

So, how is that the militia and not citizens? "Splain that to me.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Respond to this one:

"The great object is, that every man be armed ... Every one who is able may have a gun."
-- Patrick Henry, Elliot, p.3:386

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Here it is again.

"The great object is, that every man be armed ... Every one who is able may have a gun."
-- Patrick Henry, Elliot, p.3:386

 

[danielpalos]

The unorganized militia is not declared necessary to the security of a free State.

Did you even read the motherfucking quote?

Quit "appealing to ignorance" and read the damn quotes.

Yes. You have nothing but repeal.

Can you cite where in our Second Amendment it states that the People who are the unorganized militia are necessary to the security of a free State.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Right wing propaganda. Congress must prescribe wellness of regulation for the militia of the United States.

Quoting the framers of the constitution is right wing propaganda?



Just give up, dude. You lose.

 

[danielpalos]

Respond to this one:

"The great object is, that every man be armed ... Every one who is able may have a gun."
-- Patrick Henry, Elliot, p.3:386

It used to make more sense.

 

[danielpalos]

Right wing propaganda. Congress must prescribe wellness of regulation for the militia of the United States.

Quoting the framers of the constitution is right wing propaganda?



Just give up, dude. You lose.

Yes, when I am citing our Constitution.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Can you cite where in our Second Amendment it states that the People who are the unorganized militia are necessary to the security of a free State.

"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

Nothing in the 2A says that a well-regulated militia is necessary for the right to bear arms. Look at Madison's quote and respond, motherfucker.

Quit avoiding the founders' words.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It used to make more sense.

So, I am right?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Yes, when I am citing our Constitution.

When you are ass-backwards bullshit interpreting it?

WE must look at the words of the authors to shove your bullshit interpretations straight up your ass. Which I have.

VICTORY

 

[Cellblock2429]

Yes, it does. Well regulated militia of the People are declared Necessary, not the People who are the unorganized militia.

So, what does it mean to be well-regulated?



No response odds? Any guesses?

/----/ "So, what does it mean to be well-regulated?" It means the soldiers get plenty of fiber in their diet.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Daniel?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nope. The 2nd Amendment doesn't say right of the militia.
Nor does it mention restricting the right of the people to those in any militia.

Yes, it does. Well regulated militia of the People are declared Necessary, not the People who are the unorganized militia.

Yes, it does.

No it doesn't.

The People are the militia.

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The People who are a well regulated militia.

Except it doesn't say that.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

That pretty much says it all right there, eh Daniel?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive."
--Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).

Noah Webster must have been a damn fool, that dictionary-making son of a bitch.

The unorganized militia is not declared necessary to the security of a free State.

And yet, they're allowed. And have the right to keep and bear arms.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I am just going to keep quoting these two until danielpalos responds to them:

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Daniel????

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Daniel?

Why do you run when we prove that your interpretation is bullshit?

Come back and face the music.

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)


"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46