The Question Conservatives Can't Answer

[rdean]

where the jobs then? See implying thats its their money and agreeing they did in fact make more of it. You have to concede that trickle down does not work.
Instead what you see is Rich people keeping their money and not in fact expanding their work force.

But people like you cant admit this, because then your blaming of Obama and the current UE would look silly and just hateful.

We haven't cut taxes since 2001. And there was more jobs until this current crisis caused by our Governments screwed up financial problems.

If you want to see jobs, cut taxes, cut spending, and eliminate needless regulation and get the heck out of the way.

It's not the governments job to create jobs. We are supposed to create and find our own jobs. The government just needs to get the heck out of our way and stop burdening us by taxation, inflation, and overspending.

Yea, let's get rid of the job killing EPA and the FDA. I'm sure if there is any poison milk out there, you won't mind your kids finding it first.

China's Poisoned Milk Scandal: Is Sorry Enough? - TIME

 

[thereisnospoon]

Conservatives can answer it. The federal government doesn't generate income.

Federal government writes tax codes and redistributes income gains from one percentage of workers to another.

In 1980 seven percent of total US annual income went to the richest 1%.
Today the figure is 20%.

The best explanation I see is the richest 1% have bribed elected Republicans AND Democrats to write tax policies that shift the burden of taxation off unearned income and onto wages and salaries.

The Question Conservatives Can't Answer | Common Dreams

That's not an explanation...it's your own twisted subjective view. It's meaningless.

 

[Avatar4321]

where the jobs then? See implying thats its their money and agreeing they did in fact make more of it. You have to concede that trickle down does not work.
Instead what you see is Rich people keeping their money and not in fact expanding their work force.

But people like you cant admit this, because then your blaming of Obama and the current UE would look silly and just hateful.

We haven't cut taxes since 2001. And there was more jobs until this current crisis caused by our Governments screwed up financial problems.

If you want to see jobs, cut taxes, cut spending, and eliminate needless regulation and get the heck out of the way.

It's not the governments job to create jobs. We are supposed to create and find our own jobs. The government just needs to get the heck out of our way and stop burdening us by taxation, inflation, and overspending.

Yea, let's get rid of the job killing EPA and the FDA. I'm sure if there is any poison milk out there, you won't mind your kids finding it first.

China's Poisoned Milk Scandal: Is Sorry Enough? - TIME

Tell me, do you think you'd have an easy time selling poisoned milk? Do you think you'd make much money? Do you think youd avoid lawsuits?

Do you really think Congress passing law prevents that or is it merely the fact that people who sell milk realize that in order to continue having business, they need to sell products that dont injure their clients?

What do you think is a bigger motivator: regulation or the chance for more profit?

 

[hortysir]

Did you bother reading the link?

"It seems unlikely that 1% of the population worked three times harder than the rest of us, or contributed three times as much to American productivity.

"Money earned from tax cuts and minimally taxed financial instruments is not productive income..."

The Question Conservatives Can't Answer | Common Dreams

You really ARE that communistic, aren't you?

It is impossible to EARN money from a tax cut.
The money is already earned.

A tax cut merely allows you to keep more of the money you already earned.



You might want to write Bam-Bam a letter asking him why he extended those evil tax cuts....

 

[thereisnospoon]

It was their money to begin with. They earned it.

When are you on the left going to realize that taxes burden the American people with labor they have to pay the government before they can take care of themselves? The money is theirs.

At what point have they paid their fair share?

Did you bother reading the link?

"It seems unlikely that 1% of the population worked three times harder than the rest of us, or contributed three times as much to American productivity.

"Money earned from tax cuts and minimally taxed financial instruments is not productive income..."

The Question Conservatives Can't Answer | Common Dreams

Who gives a flying fuck about the opinion of some Lefty blogger?

 

[hortysir]

It was their money to begin with. They earned it.

When are you on the left going to realize that taxes burden the American people with labor they have to pay the government before they can take care of themselves? The money is theirs.

At what point have they paid their fair share?

When they have none left. Of course, that begs the question, who are they going to take it from next?

In 1980 the richest 1% earned at least $148,000 a year.
Today they "earn" a minimum of $450,000 every year.

The didn't earn the extra money.
They bribed politicians to write tax policy shifting the tax burden to wages and salaries.
And they are not done taking.
When are you going to get smart enough to notice?

It takes a lot more Federally over-printed Monopoly money to buy things nowadays

 

[georgephillip]

They will say this is a lie and that will be that. Or else they won't answer at all.

Thomas Sowell, to his credit, supplied one answer:

"Most people are paid voluntarily by others to whom they supply goods and/or services, and only to the extent that others value what is supplied enough to part with their own hard cash."

It is an answer.
But not to the question that was asked, imho.

The Question Conservatives Can't Answer | Common Dreams

 

[thereisnospoon]

It was their money to begin with. They earned it.

When are you on the left going to realize that taxes burden the American people with labor they have to pay the government before they can take care of themselves? The money is theirs.

At what point have they paid their fair share?

where the jobs then? See implying thats its their money and agreeing they did in fact make more of it. You have to concede that trickle down does not work.
Instead what you see is Rich people keeping their money and not in fact expanding their work force.

But people like you cant admit this, because then your blaming of Obama and the current UE would look silly and just hateful.

Your question should be directed to the Obama administration. Those are the people who are pushing an agenda that furthers the notion of central planning. That only government is capable of running the economy.The very same people Georgie blames for making policy which he says gives the wealthy such a large share of the imaginary pie.
You people have been told numerous times that you cannot have it both ways.
You libs do not know what you want. As matter of fact, no matter what lands in your lap, you'd never be satisfied. You people are not happy unless you and everyone around you is miserable.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Based on Tax Foundation figures, the richest 1% has TRIPLED its share of America's income over the past 30 years. Much of the gain came from tax cuts and minimally taxed financial instruments.

Too fucking bad....Those "gains" are in terms of money that belonged to them in the first place.

If their income had increased only at the pace of American productivity (80%), they would be taking about a TRILLION DOLLARS LESS out of our economy.

And if worms had machine guns, birds wouldn't fuck with them.

The notion that someone "took money out of the economy" is pure commie bullshit, which is mind boggling in its sheer economic ignorance.

where the jobs twit.?

"Twit"....Typical response from someone who has no logical rebuttal.

 

[Oddball]

Federal government writes tax codes and redistributes income gains from one percentage of workers to another.

In 1980 seven percent of total US annual income went to the richest 1%.
Today the figure is 20%.

Which is completely irrelevant to the fact that the federal gubmint generates no income of its own, deflectasaurus rex.

therefore government doesnt create jobs either and therefore the current UE is not Obamas fault.

It CAN inhibit job production, with its ignorant, misguided and downright despotic policies...Which the regime of the Boiking is doing in spades.

Nice try, though.

 

[Full-Auto]

It was their money to begin with. They earned it.

When are you on the left going to realize that taxes burden the American people with labor they have to pay the government before they can take care of themselves? The money is theirs.

At what point have they paid their fair share?

where the jobs then? See implying thats its their money and agreeing they did in fact make more of it. You have to concede that trickle down does not work.
Instead what you see is Rich people keeping their money and not in fact expanding their work force.

But people like you cant admit this, because then your blaming of Obama and the current UE would look silly and just hateful.

do you understand the term regulation? If so, are you aware of the costs of those and the effects? My god you may figure out part of the answer you seek.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Conservatives can answer it. The federal government doesn't generate income.

Sure it does. NASA has over two thousand patents that generate hundreds of billions of dollars from both patent sales and licensing. Everyone knows that.

WRONG.....NASA was merely the transporter. If what you state is true then NASA would not have just lost well over half it's labor force.

 

[ba1614]

We haven't cut taxes since 2001. And there was more jobs until this current crisis caused by our Governments screwed up financial problems.

If you want to see jobs, cut taxes, cut spending, and eliminate needless regulation and get the heck out of the way.

It's not the governments job to create jobs. We are supposed to create and find our own jobs. The government just needs to get the heck out of our way and stop burdening us by taxation, inflation, and overspending.

Yea, let's get rid of the job killing EPA and the FDA. I'm sure if there is any poison milk out there, you won't mind your kids finding it first.

China's Poisoned Milk Scandal: Is Sorry Enough? - TIME

Tell me, do you think you'd have an easy time selling poisoned milk? Do you think you'd make much money? Do you think youd avoid lawsuits?

Do you really think Congress passing law prevents that or is it merely the fact that people who sell milk realize that in order to continue having business, they need to sell products that dont injure their clients?

What do you think is a bigger motivator: regulation or the chance for more profit?

Don't you love the extremes some of these fucking idiots go to? You mention some reduction in needless regulations and that's going to result in China like regulations.

 

[georgephillip]

Based on Tax Foundation figures, the richest 1% has TRIPLED its share of America's income over the past 30 years. Much of the gain came from tax cuts and minimally taxed financial instruments.

Too fucking bad....Those "gains" are in terms of money that belonged to them in the first place.

If their income had increased only at the pace of American productivity (80%), they would be taking about a TRILLION DOLLARS LESS out of our economy.

And if worms had machine guns, birds wouldn't fuck with them.

The notion that someone "took money out of the economy" is pure commie bullshit, which is mind boggling in its sheer economic ignorance.

Those gains came from bribing politicians for favorable tax treatment on "earnings" from "minimally taxed financial instruments" that have nothing to do with productive labor.

In 1980 the richest 1% earned 7% of our country's income.
Today they rake in over 20%
The only thing they've earned is a one-way ticket to supermax.

 

[Oddball]

therefore government doesnt create jobs either and therefore the current UE is not Obamas fault.

It CAN inhibit job production, with its ignorant, misguided and downright despotic policies...Which the regime of the Boiking is doing in spades.

Nice try, though.

lol...you can now be dismissed for the boyking part. That only comes from moronic ignorance.

That's "Boiking", knucklehead.....And when did I ever cut the Shrubbie regime any slack?

Not such a good try this time.

 

[Avatar4321]

Don't you love the extremes some of these fucking idiots go to? You mention some reduction in needless regulations and that's going to result in China like regulations.

Well, Rdean is an extremist. And he has yet to demonstrate to me a desire for sincere debate. So it really doesnt surprise me much.

People who think regulations fix problems don't understand that laws don't change people. Nor do they change nature.

 

[hortysir]

Those gains came from bribing politicians for favorable tax treatment on "earnings" from "minimally taxed financial instruments" that have nothing to do with productive labor.

In 1980 the richest 1% earned 7% of our country's income.
Today they rake in over 20%
The only thing they've earned is a one-way ticket to supermax.

Do you think that we live in a Closed Economy?
That there is a finite amount of wealth to be made and that when someone makes more money someone else must make less in order for it to happen?

 

[Full-Auto]

I want a balanced budget, streamlined government that gets rid of redundant programs, and cuts needless spending, to scale back on the war front, fix loopholes in taxes, and fix regulations....


Admirable. Yet you do not come across that way.

I am not convinced you understand cause and effect based on your posts.

I hope I am wrong.

 

[georgephillip]

"The following fact was sent to numerous conservative pundits, politicians, and profit-seekers:

"Based on Tax Foundation figures, the richest 1% has TRIPLED its share of America's income over the past 30 years. Much of the gain came from tax cuts and minimally taxed financial instruments.

"If their income had increased only at the pace of American productivity (80%), they would be taking about a TRILLION DOLLARS LESS out of our economy.

"And a question was posed:

"In what way do the richest 1% deserve these extraordinary gains?

"This question was not posed in sarcasm.

"A factual answer is genuinely sought.

"It seems unlikely that 1% of the population worked three times harder than the rest of us, or contributed three times as much to American productivity.

"Money earned from tax cuts and minimally taxed financial instruments is not productive income."

Any takers, Cons?

The Question Conservatives Can't Answer | Common Dreams

the top 10% pay the majority of taxes in this country.and until communist traitors like you voted in the piece of shit we have in the White House hard working people who invested wisely became more prosperous.

Did you sleep through the first ten years of the 21st Century?
The one where the US lost more jobs in a single decade than any other state in history?
Except the USSR

Apparently you missed the Fall of 2008 when the Wall Street Rich crashed the global economy, resulting in $14 trillion in lost wealth and 8 million lost jobs?

 

[Full-Auto]

Pass it, pay our bills, and then deal with spending and whatever.

Thats the point, it never gets dealt with.

The national debt has gone up 53 years running, no end in sight.


Both plans suck. but if we get the grand deal trillion dollar deficits continue.

That isnt a plan.