The push for a biblical government continues

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    bible scripts justifying judicial nominees

    WASHINGTON -- Reading from the Bible on the floor of the Senate on Tuesday, Sen. Orrin Hatch endorsed a federal judicial nominee who wrote that wives should have a subordinate role in marriage, with the Utah Republican emphasizing "millions and millions of people will agree with" that view.
    In a preview of the religious rhetoric that will likely dominate next week's scheduled Senate debate over a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, Hatch led the fight for confirming Arkansas lawyer J. Leon Holmes to the U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Arkansas.
    With Hatch's support and that of Sen. Bob Bennett, R-Utah, Holmes was confirmed 51-46 in the Senate on Tuesday evening, even though many members of the Senate predicted his nomination would be rejected.
    Holmes' writing on abortion, marriage, slavery and other theological issues generated opposition from not only many Democrats but also some Republicans.
    Fueling much of the debate is a 1997 article Holmes and his wife, Susan, wrote for Arkansas Catholic magazine titled, "Gender Neutral Language, Destroying an Essential Element of Our Faith." The couple wrote that under Catholic teaching, "the woman is to place herself under the authority of the man" in marriage and "is to subordinate herself to the husband."

    Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Penn., lashed out at Durbin's criticism during floor debate.
    "We hear so much from the other side about tolerance," said Santorum. "Where is the tolerance for people who want to believe what has been taught for 2,000 years?"
    After reading aloud from Chapter 5 of the Book of Ephesians, Hatch said "it gets pretty bad around here" when lawmakers condemn Holmes for quoting the teachings of St. Paul the Apostle.
    "I don't think anybody can read this without understanding husbands have tremendous obligations in order to gain the respect of their wives," said Hatch. "You might disagree with St. Paul but there are hundreds of millions of people who agree with St. Paul."
    Hatch also discounted criticism over a 1980 letter Holmes wrote to a newspaper arguing that rape victims should not be allowed to have abortions because "conceptions from rape occur with approximately the same frequency as snowfall in Miami." Holmes has since apologized for the comment.
    "I find his statement to be insensitive and appalling," said Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, a former criminal prosecutor who cited studies showing an estimated 25,000 pregnancies occur each year due to rape. "Speak to the family of a 13-year-old girl who is pregnant by being raped by her family's best friend, the next-door neighbor."
    Said Hatch: "I believe all of us have made statements in the past for which we wished we could apologize."

    I think that last sentence would have had better effect coming from Trent Lott though. :D
     
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    Uh... yeah. That will blow over with the female population like a fart in church.

    Off topic... wasnt it in Utah where Tom Green had multiple wives?
     
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    "I think that last sentence would have had better effect coming from Trent Lott though. "

    Now that was damned funny.

    On a more seriouis note however - this is going to be interesting to follow and see how this gets twisted and spun. I understand his rationale for quoting this particular scripture, but man is it going to open a bucket of worms for out of context discussion.

    The intent of the scripture he is referring to is that the wife shal submit in terms of spirituality and worship of God. Similar that the church as the bride of Christ is to submit to His will.

    This is going to explode on both sides of the aisle.
     
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    yes, for which he was indicted for statutory rape of one of them, because she was 13. I believe he was also indicted, or going to be, for polygamy.
     
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    Sorry folks--I think the amendment is foolish and makes both parties look trivial.
     
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    Marriages work best when wives DO submit to authority of their husbands - AND - Husbands love their wives the way they need to.

    (shrug).

    It's not about servantude...
     
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    And for the obligatory Constitutional point:

    Hmmm.......

    ;)
     
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    Trent Lott ( R ), praises Strom Thurmond ( R ), a former Klan member, and is hounded off the face of the earth.

    Christopher Dodd ( D ), praises Robert Byrd ( D ), a former Klan member, and it's a non-issue.

    Bear with me, folks - I'm just trying to undrestand.
     
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    post again the quotes of their praise, i forget them except remembering it was thurmonds birthday or retiring or something.
     

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