The Pope Due In Congress In a Couple Weeks: To Be Broadcast

[Buzz Jenkins]

I would not cross the street to listen to that Jesuit creep.

I've known catholics all my life. By and large they tend to live quiet and respectful lives. They're big on charity. They actually put out in this regard instead of just giving it lip service. Pretty creepy. Only to a creep.

Pope Francais is not that bad of a guy as I understand it. Why the venom?

Because there are people who have so much poison in their hearts and souls they cannot do anything but spout venom.

One must feel sorrow for them.

Bullshit. He is a leftist dog whose personal activist ideology calls for the undermining of capitalism and redistribution of wealth.

 

[Unkotare]

You do know who is the Pope?

Um, yeah, I've heard of him...

...

 

[Silhouette]

..He's the leader of an independent state and billions throughout the world. Why should he be treated any different than hundreds of world leaders who've addressed Congress in the past?

Because...um... those he represents are growing in leaps and bounds in the US. You may have heard of them. Hispanic immigrants? And the ones born here vote. Also there's a lot of other immigrant descendants here like some Irish, Italians, French, German, Spanish, Portugeuse etc. who are roman catholics.

When the Pope tells catholics "thou shalt" or "thou shalt not", it matters more than if a fly-by-night foreign dignitary says something. The Pope represents the Pearly Gates. That's a little more weighty than the Prime Minister of Canada or the president of Mexico.

 

[longknife]

I don't think Francis is going to tell anybody to do anything!

He will speak of what he sees as the Doctrine of Christ as a way to help the poor and helpless. He will exhort those to help them find a way up - not continue to hold them back.

While many call him socialist - he is simply reiterating what pastors are supposed to do - look after their congreations/followers.

If anybody should be uncomfortable with his words, it should be Democrats who have created and continue to further a society of dependence - not liberty and freedom.

 

[Freewill]

I don't think Francis is going to tell anybody to do anything!

He will speak of what he sees as the Doctrine of Christ as a way to help the poor and helpless. He will exhort those to help them find a way up - not continue to hold them back.

While many call him socialist - he is simply reiterating what pastors are supposed to do - look after their congreations/followers.

If anybody should be uncomfortable with his words, it should be Democrats who have created and continue to further a society of dependence - not liberty and freedom.

Me thinks that the Pope doesn't see it quite the way you describe. I think he sees the failed war on poverty as a humanitary jesture, not a failure as it has clearly been.

He has also said pray for abortion without condemning abortion, at least as I hear and I will admit I don't exactly read about the Pope.

I think you will see him siding with every liberal issue there will be no reason for the liberal left feel badly, they will be on this very board a minute after he finishes crowing about how he supports everyone of their objectives, even abortion.

 

[HenryBHough]

This Pope is fun to watch.

In any given day he can have conservatives frothing at the mouth in the morning and have liberals pissing their panties before breaking for lunch.

God willing, he'll go on doing that until he turns into a drooling old fool - a fate which only his immediate predecessor had the sense to avoid by resigning - and even that a little later than he perhaps had should.

 

[longknife]

This Pope is fun to watch.

In any given day he can have conservatives frothing at the mouth in the morning and have liberals pissing their panties before breaking for lunch.

God willing, he'll go on doing that until he turns into a drooling old fool - a fate which only his immediate predecessor had the sense to avoid by resigning - and even that a little later than he perhaps had should.

He's already indicated he won't hold the job that long.

 

[Silhouette]

He's already indicated he won't hold the job that long.

Just long enough to address US Congress for the first time in our history....on invitation from John Boehner....

 

[mdk]

Yes, we get it, Sil. You think the Pope is going to use this time for an anti-PC rant aimed at gays and gay marriage. Just come out and say it already. Can the coy bullshit.

 

[Silhouette]

He was invited by John Boehner. And then the Pope accepted Boehner's invitation. I have no actual idea what the Pope is going to talk about but I'll bet Boehner has a hint.

 

[Silhouette]

I thought though, now that you brought it up mdk, that this OP post might be a good one to post here if the Pope is going to address his own religion's sublime directives in order to speak to the world's most powerful nation's leadership. After all, the one whose soul is the most in trouble for failing to stop the spread of the New Sodom would be the Pope who has the most power in the world to stop that spread. His failure I would think, according to Jude 1, would render a punishment a 100-fold worse than the average Christian Joe or Jane:

Understanding What Kim Davis' Legal Argument Will Be.. | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

On the topic of adultery and the famous story in the Bible of the stoning incident with Jesus, he said "let any of you who is without sin cast the first stone". His point was twofold: 1. To save the poor stoning victim and 2. To really seat in the minds of the angry mob that we are all sinners and must not judge; judgment is for God.

That being said, Jude 1 spells out that a Christian (who is also a sinner, remember) must reach out to homosexuals with compassion, "making a difference". But that to promote them as a group mentality into the fabric of any society is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN. This message exists in the New Testament and in Jesus' teachings as I recall, there are very few examples of of him saying "Oh yeah, you know that Old Testament law and the shit that went down then with God casting people into Hell for eternity? Yeah, this one's like that. It's for realsies." Yet that's what we find in Jude 1.

And it makes sense if you understand sociology. When it comes to human behaviors and mimickry in youth, trends have a way of catching fire in any society. And what do we see today after 30 years of nonstop campaigning by LGBT cult to the youth in media? That's right, hordes of "bi-curious" or "gay" youth popping up like a dandelion-epidemic in a lawn that used to be relatively weed free. God's OK with his lawn having occasional dandelions but not the whole lawn being taken over with time. God remembers Ancient Greece and you don't. So he is wiser than you. God remembers Sodom and you don't. So he is wiser than you.

God teaches us to love the sinner but hate the sin. And that's what Jude 1 is all about. Jesus also extended compassion to prostitutes, thieves and lepers. Does that mean that anyone against or refusing to participate in promoting prostitution, robbery or coming down with leprosy is a "hater"? NO! Of course not! So, Kim Davis is in God's favor. The Bible's New Testament isn't all roses and hippy love fest. There are some hard rules and one of the hardest is not to tamper with God's lawn by helping to seed it with weeds. Otherwise the good grass will be choked out and wouldn't have a chance to grow in that enviroment even if it wanted to desperately. THAT is why the punishment for promoting homosexuality using God's sacred vehicle of the family (marriage) is such a pisser for God. And you will get eternity in the slammer if you fail to heed Jude 1's warning.

So, any lawyer coming forward saying "she's an adulterer! How can she object?!!" is flat out of line. Kim Davis isn't the Bible. Kim Davis is a flawed sinning Christian doing her level best to abide by the Bible in this particular instance. She has read the warnings in Jude 1, presumably. So she knows she must choose between eternal peril or jail. She has chosen wisely. But the people who put her in jail have not chosen wisely. They will be judged twice. Once here on earth in the dank and dusty courtooms. And a second time as they foolishly try to enter the Pearly Gates.

The 1st Amendment of the Constitution protects the exercise of religion. It does so not for a building or a group of people, but for an individual following a known and accepted faith (not a cult). The differences between a sublime religion and a cult are determined by society, not one judge or a small panel of them. Christians were who founded our country. And it's going to be a long day in court for an attorney trying to argue how a Johnny-Come-Lately deviant sex cult has a "right" to force a Christian to their knees to bow at a new rainbow colored altar.

The 9th Amendment of the Constitution says that no law may come along and dilute the potency of the 1st Amendment. So Ms. Davis can use the 9th to drive a big fat nail in the wall and hang her 1st Amendment hat on it. "Public Accomodation" must and will take a back seat to the 1st Amendment. Public accomodation is a brand new concept of forcing people to go along with in this case, behaviors they object to.

There was a flawed premise at the very start of all this. And it was/is "behaviors = race". A waffling group of deviant sex behaviors who don't even understand themselves completely, cannot dictate to our nation's sublime stalwart religion since day one (Christians) that they will now have to essentially tear out sections of the Bible and burn them as newly-irrelevant.

 

[Silhouette]

Maybe the Pope is coming here to clear up the Kim Davis question of the difference between a mortal sin and a venial one? He's the final say on the word after all. So maybe he is here to talk about Jude 1 or Romans 1 and apply those warnings to today's culture. After all, what gets normalized in the US always winds up bleeding over into other countries + time.. You'd think the Pope would have something to say about the entire flock of catholics worldwide inadvertently winding up in Hell when they die...

..or maybe not.

 

[Skylar]

I thought though, now that you brought it up mdk, that this OP post might be a good one to post here if the Pope is going to address his own religion's sublime directives in order to speak to the world's most powerful nation's leadership. After all, the one whose soul is the most in trouble for failing to stop the spread of the New Sodom would be the Pope who has the most power in the world to stop that spread. His failure I would think, according to Jude 1, would render a punishment a 100-fold worse than the average Christian Joe or Jane:

Understanding What Kim Davis' Legal Argument Will Be.. | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

On the topic of adultery and the famous story in the Bible of the stoning incident with Jesus, he said "let any of you who is without sin cast the first stone". His point was twofold: 1. To save the poor stoning victim and 2. To really seat in the minds of the angry mob that we are all sinners and must not judge; judgment is for God.

That being said, Jude 1 spells out that a Christian (who is also a sinner, remember) must reach out to homosexuals with compassion, "making a difference". But that to promote them as a group mentality into the fabric of any society is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN. This message exists in the New Testament and in Jesus' teachings as I recall, there are very few examples of of him saying "Oh yeah, you know that Old Testament law and the shit that went down then with God casting people into Hell for eternity? Yeah, this one's like that. It's for realsies." Yet that's what we find in Jude 1.

And it makes sense if you understand sociology. When it comes to human behaviors and mimickry in youth, trends have a way of catching fire in any society. And what do we see today after 30 years of nonstop campaigning by LGBT cult to the youth in media? That's right, hordes of "bi-curious" or "gay" youth popping up like a dandelion-epidemic in a lawn that used to be relatively weed free. God's OK with his lawn having occasional dandelions but not the whole lawn being taken over with time. God remembers Ancient Greece and you don't. So he is wiser than you. God remembers Sodom and you don't. So he is wiser than you.

God teaches us to love the sinner but hate the sin. And that's what Jude 1 is all about. Jesus also extended compassion to prostitutes, thieves and lepers. Does that mean that anyone against or refusing to participate in promoting prostitution, robbery or coming down with leprosy is a "hater"? NO! Of course not! So, Kim Davis is in God's favor. The Bible's New Testament isn't all roses and hippy love fest. There are some hard rules and one of the hardest is not to tamper with God's lawn by helping to seed it with weeds. Otherwise the good grass will be choked out and wouldn't have a chance to grow in that enviroment even if it wanted to desperately. THAT is why the punishment for promoting homosexuality using God's sacred vehicle of the family (marriage) is such a pisser for God. And you will get eternity in the slammer if you fail to heed Jude 1's warning.

So, any lawyer coming forward saying "she's an adulterer! How can she object?!!" is flat out of line. Kim Davis isn't the Bible. Kim Davis is a flawed sinning Christian doing her level best to abide by the Bible in this particular instance. She has read the warnings in Jude 1, presumably. So she knows she must choose between eternal peril or jail. She has chosen wisely. But the people who put her in jail have not chosen wisely. They will be judged twice. Once here on earth in the dank and dusty courtooms. And a second time as they foolishly try to enter the Pearly Gates.

The 1st Amendment of the Constitution protects the exercise of religion. It does so not for a building or a group of people, but for an individual following a known and accepted faith (not a cult). The differences between a sublime religion and a cult are determined by society, not one judge or a small panel of them. Christians were who founded our country. And it's going to be a long day in court for an attorney trying to argue how a Johnny-Come-Lately deviant sex cult has a "right" to force a Christian to their knees to bow at a new rainbow colored altar.

The 9th Amendment of the Constitution says that no law may come along and dilute the potency of the 1st Amendment. So Ms. Davis can use the 9th to drive a big fat nail in the wall and hang her 1st Amendment hat on it. "Public Accomodation" must and will take a back seat to the 1st Amendment. Public accomodation is a brand new concept of forcing people to go along with in this case, behaviors they object to.

There was a flawed premise at the very start of all this. And it was/is "behaviors = race". A waffling group of deviant sex behaviors who don't even understand themselves completely, cannot dictate to our nation's sublime stalwart religion since day one (Christians) that they will now have to essentially tear out sections of the Bible and burn them as newly-irrelevant.

Yeah, I don't think the Pope knows of your rambling manifesto inspired theories. Or cares if he did.

 

[longknife]

The Pope is coming here because he was invited to speak to Congress. He's just using it as an opportunity to further the church's agenda while he's here.