The Perception of Cheating is the Real Danger to Democracy

[j-mac]

Anyone think it odd that a candidate is allowed to oversee counting?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Waiting weeks for the results of a simple midterm election would make anyone suspicious especially when a big state like Florida can deliver voting results on election night.

Either that or we are to think that most of the voters in this country are complete morons. Who in the world would vote for out of control inflation, out of control border, grocery prices 19% higher than when Trump left office, new record in gasoline prices, record fetanyl deaths (300 a day) because of that open border, huge spike in violent crime and murders, highest interest rates in 14 years and expected to go even higher, getting involved in a war that caused a nuclear threat aimed at our country, something that hasn't happened since the mid 60's?

Now we see an election where every single polling organization was not only wrong, but completely opposite of what took place. Did that ever happen before? I don't know because that would probably take hours of research, but just using memory, I don't ever remember this happening before.

But people are not to be suspicious. Nah, stop with the conspiracy theories. Just accept the fact that more and more Americans support the destruction of this country. Yeah, that's the ticket.

 

[Batcat]

Because the US seems to run on conspiracy theories, people are so lazy they can't even be bothered to think.

When your government turns corrupt and many do not trust it, conspiracy theories are more popular.

 

[Batcat]

Plus they are trying to sell that there is really nothing wrong with it nor anything that can be done.

Intelligent people will realize that if Florida can get the results of an election the night of the election there is no reason other states can’t. Perhaps late results just cover up cheating.

 

[Batcat]

Either that or we are to think that most of the voters in this country are complete morons. Who in the world would vote for out of control inflation, out of control border, grocery prices 19% higher than when Trump left office, new record in gasoline prices, record fetanyl deaths (300 a day) because of that open border, huge spike in violent crime and murders, highest interest rates in 14 years and expected to go even higher, getting involved in a war that caused a nuclear threat aimed at our country, something that hasn't happened since the mid 60's?

Now we see an election where every single polling organization was not only wrong, but completely opposite of what took place. Did that ever happen before? I don't know because that would probably take hours of research, but just using memory, I don't ever remember this happening before.

But people are not to be suspicious. Nah, stop with the conspiracy theories. Just accept the fact that more and more Americans support the destruction of this country. Yeah, that's the ticket.

The poor predictions of the polling organizations bothers me too. Polls are supposed to be scientific.

 

[frigidweirdo]

When your government turns corrupt and many do not trust it, conspiracy theories are more popular.

Sure, but really the people with the vote should be thinking how to change things, instead they're reveling in the insanity.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The poor predictions of the polling organizations bothers me too. Polls are supposed to be scientific.

However they've had some reasonable success in the past. After all they make their money on their accuracy. But I think it's more than that, most people (even on the left) were predicting a huge red wave. Not only didn't that happen, but we lost total control of the Senate as I don't think Walker is going to make it. All these places with week long vote counting usually end up with a Democrat winner. What are the chances, huh?

There is something going on here. Republicans had 5 million more voters come out for them than the Democrats, and not only did we lose the Senate, we barely won leadership of the House.

 

[scruffy]

More importantly

What does she say?

God isn't a woman, dimwit.

He's an old man with a long white beard.

What would you libtards know about women anyway?

 

[presonorek]

Is that what you really think, that what people do in other states doesn't affect me?

It affects you but it is out of your jurisdiction. This is an issue for individual state legislatures. I wouldn't lobby other states to complain about their laws on marijuana. My input would be ignored. Hey, if you want national elections then go ahead and make your case. You'll realize how silly it is very quickly.

Federal elections would exacerbate cheating. Do you really want the feds running elections and you wouldn't expect cheating to increase a thousand fold?

 

[Batcat]

However they've had some reasonable success in the past. After all they make their money on their accuracy. But I think it's more than that, most people (even on the left) were predicting a huge red wave. Not only didn't that happen, but we lost total control of the Senate as I don't think Walker is going to make it. All these places with week long vote counting usually end up with a Democrat winner. What are the chances, huh?

There is something going on here. Republicans had 5 million more voters come out for them than the Democrats, and not only did we lose the Senate, we barely won leadership of the House.

I agree. Something suspicious is hoping on in some states.

 

[Batcat]

Sure, but really the people with the vote should be thinking how to change things, instead they're reveling in the insanity.

Many are blaming the leadership of the Republican Party and they well may be right. If the leadership had run a campaign saying what the republicans would do if they had control of the House and the Senate, they might have had a better result.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Many are blaming the leadership of the Republican Party and they well may be right. If the leadership had run a campaign saying what the republicans would do if they had control of the House and the Senate, they might have had a better result.

I doubt it. People voted against Trumpers because they don't like what Trump has done. Had they put up other people, they might have won.

 

[Uncensored2008]

We don't have national elections. This isn't a discussion. There are 50 separate issues. Cheating in Pennsylvania has nothing to do with cheating in Wisconsin. Cheating in Wisconsin has nothing to do with cheating in Pennsylvania. All 50 states handle their elections however they want. The US Congress, the US Senate, nor the president of the United States can address this bull crap. Even if cheating exists it doesn't matter unless it is happening in your state. What happens in another state is none of your business whatsoever. This is one of those dumb discussion that will last for decades because our country is full of morons.

This is like its sister non-issue, gerrymandering.

Yet you shit yourself over abortion laws in Mississippi...

The hypocrisy of fascist democrats knows no bounds.

 

[scruffy]

It affects you but it is out of your jurisdiction. This is an issue for individual state legislatures. I wouldn't lobby other states to complain about their laws on marijuana. My input would be ignored. Hey, if you want national elections then go ahead and make your case. You'll realize how silly it is very quickly.

Federal elections would exacerbate cheating. Do you really want the feds running elections and you wouldn't expect cheating to increase a thousand fold?

We don't eat the Feds to RUN anything. God forbid!

However there must be guidelines and standards for mission critical systems. FedGov should create those, and the states should comply.

Think it like... federal emissions standards.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I doubt it. People voted against Trumpers because they don't like what Trump has done. Had they put up other people, they might have won.

Funny that not a single poll supports your claim - or the performance of Reich. Funny how that works out for the Reich. Like the Superbowl team that is down by 70 and comes back to win in that last 30 seconds. AND you do it over and over again...

 

[LilOlLady]

To ensure dead people's ballots aren't counted, election officials regularly use death records to update voter registration files.
FILE - A Michigan voter inserts her absentee voter ballot into a drop box in Troy, Mich. on Oct. 15, 2020. After the 2020 presidential election, former President Donald Trump and his supporters claimed thousands of votes had been cast fraudulently on behalf of dead voters, even naming specific deceased people whose ballots were supposedly counted. But these claims, which spread in many states including Arizona, Virginia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Georgia, were found to be false

 

[LilOlLady]

In many states, vital statistics agencies send them monthly lists of people who have died, which officials use to update voter registration files.

Even if a dead voter’s ballot mistakenly gets mailed, signature verification and voter fraud laws create additional safeguards against anyone else filling it out and submitting it. Voters who forge dead relatives’ signatures on ballots can face fines, probation or prison. And in some states, absentee voting requirements such as witness signatures or notarization add an extra barrier to prevent this rare form of voter fraud.

Only Republicans think they can vote for dead people and the only ones who has been caught because of their ignorance of how the voting system works.

 

[LilOlLady]

Have you ever considered posting while you're sober?

ARE you ever sober?

Even then I am in a better position than you are sober.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It affects you but it is out of your jurisdiction. This is an issue for individual state legislatures. I wouldn't lobby other states to complain about their laws on marijuana. My input would be ignored. Hey, if you want national elections then go ahead and make your case. You'll realize how silly it is very quickly.

Federal elections would exacerbate cheating. Do you really want the feds running elections and you wouldn't expect cheating to increase a thousand fold?

I never said anything like that. I was making reference to your claim how other states vote doesn't affect me. If a state votes to make pot legal, that has no effect on me because I don't live in that state. If a majority vote to increase my income taxes, of course it applies to everybody in the country. That was the only point I was making.

Even if cheating exists it doesn't matter unless it is happening in your state. What happens in another state is none of your business whatsoever.

 

[Batcat]

I doubt it. People voted against Trumpers because they don't like what Trump has done. Had they put up other people, they might have won.

Of course you will argue that Joe Biden and your Marxist socialist liberals have done a lot for our nation in just two years.

For example the price of gasoline skyrocketed but Joe brought it down by draining our Strategic Petroleum Reserve to a 38 year low. He might have saved the midterms by that move but it may prove very foolish in the end.

I will admit Joe did an amazing job of recreating inflation which hasn’t been a real problem for decades. Plus Joe knows how to open the Mexican border wide open so the Mexican drug cartels can become rich beyond belief smuggling people and drugs in our nation and charging all illegal aliens to cross. I personally suspect Joe is or will get a nice kick back from the cartels as he deserves one. Unfortunately he sold our nation down the Rio Grande. How many people have died from fentanyl overdoses that were able t9 be smuggled into our nation because the Border Patrol was tied up processing illegals?

I could go on but a good sheeple like you will just ignore any further criticism of the worst President in modern history.