The OLDER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

[Sixties Fan]

Zeev Jabotinsky's Zionist legacy

 

[P F Tinmore]

Global Empire - The Balfour Declaration: A Blood-Drenched Centenary

He keeps talking about the "creation" of a Jewish homeland. Right away he is misleading. The Jewish homeland ALREADY EXISTED. While the Jewish people did not self-determination, self-government or sovereignty over that homeland -- that fact that is IS the homeland of the Jewish people is indisputable.

"There were some plans to create a Jewish homeland out of the rift valley of Kenya or even Madagascar, but it was rejected because the Jewish people had these ideas of past (vague hand wave)... "Seriously? I mean, really, seriously? How about if we make a homeland for the Palestinians in Mongolia? After all...these "ideas of the past" aren't even worth finishing the freaking sentence over, right?

..."but just going to live with the Palestinian people...that was encompassed in the Palestinian congresses ...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...it contrasts with the Balfour Declaration ... and the non-Jewish community having civic and religious rights but they don't talk about having political rights and rights to self-determination and national identity...is no where expressed in there...in contrast to that the Palestinian Congress quite explicitly stated that those people who lived there should have rights to citizenship so there was very much a contrast." Wait, what? So he is saying that the Arabs offered MORE rights to the Jewish people than the Jewish people offered to them? That the Arab people offered the Jewish people political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity? Someone PAH-LEESE give me a link to that.

Oh, there we go, he corrects it in the next sentence -- he says that there was a conflict between the Eastern European Jews (who wanted political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity) with the Jews who were a small religious sect, completely integrated into the (Arabic) community. In other words, to clarify the double speak -- we would like to offer Jews political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity, well, as long as you don't actually WANT any of those things. Sheesh.

Oh and let's throw in a smear -- Eastern European Jews are, you know, distasteful.

Oh, and then he goes into a lovely comment about how Jewish people can't really be both ethnically Jewish and also be loyal to whatever country they find themselves in, therefore, they renounce their "Jewishness" in favor of their nationality. Can we just level THAT playing field, please? From now on, people of Palestinian heritage who have another nationality (nearly all of them in the diaspora) are not "really" Palestinian any more.

Okay, I give up on that one.

...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...

The Palestinians have always wanted equal rights for everyone without distinction. Even their current constitution states that all Palestinians shall be equal under the law without regard to race, religion, sex, etc...

 

[Sixties Fan]

Global Empire - The Balfour Declaration: A Blood-Drenched Centenary

He keeps talking about the "creation" of a Jewish homeland. Right away he is misleading. The Jewish homeland ALREADY EXISTED. While the Jewish people did not self-determination, self-government or sovereignty over that homeland -- that fact that is IS the homeland of the Jewish people is indisputable.

"There were some plans to create a Jewish homeland out of the rift valley of Kenya or even Madagascar, but it was rejected because the Jewish people had these ideas of past (vague hand wave)... "Seriously? I mean, really, seriously? How about if we make a homeland for the Palestinians in Mongolia? After all...these "ideas of the past" aren't even worth finishing the freaking sentence over, right?

..."but just going to live with the Palestinian people...that was encompassed in the Palestinian congresses ...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...it contrasts with the Balfour Declaration ... and the non-Jewish community having civic and religious rights but they don't talk about having political rights and rights to self-determination and national identity...is no where expressed in there...in contrast to that the Palestinian Congress quite explicitly stated that those people who lived there should have rights to citizenship so there was very much a contrast." Wait, what? So he is saying that the Arabs offered MORE rights to the Jewish people than the Jewish people offered to them? That the Arab people offered the Jewish people political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity? Someone PAH-LEESE give me a link to that.

Oh, there we go, he corrects it in the next sentence -- he says that there was a conflict between the Eastern European Jews (who wanted political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity) with the Jews who were a small religious sect, completely integrated into the (Arabic) community. In other words, to clarify the double speak -- we would like to offer Jews political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity, well, as long as you don't actually WANT any of those things. Sheesh.

Oh and let's throw in a smear -- Eastern European Jews are, you know, distasteful.

Oh, and then he goes into a lovely comment about how Jewish people can't really be both ethnically Jewish and also be loyal to whatever country they find themselves in, therefore, they renounce their "Jewishness" in favor of their nationality. Can we just level THAT playing field, please? From now on, people of Palestinian heritage who have another nationality (nearly all of them in the diaspora) are not "really" Palestinian any more.

Okay, I give up on that one.

...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...

The Palestinians have always wanted equal rights for everyone without distinction. Even their current constitution states that all Palestinians shall be equal under the law without regard to race, religion, sex, etc...

The Palestinian "constitution" speaks only of Arab Palestinians.

Which is why there are no Jews in TransJordan, in Gaza and they want no Jews in all of "Palestine" if they ever manage to get their hands on the remaining 20%.

 

[Shusha]

The Palestinians have always wanted equal rights for everyone without distinction.

They have championed "equal rights without distinction" as long as they can insist on existing in Jew-free spaces or Jew-irrelevant spaces or in Jew-invisible spaces. Like the Temple Mount. Like Gaza. Like the West Bank. Like all the ME countries which expelled or drove out their Jews. Like arguments about the settlements.

There is nothing equal about this. Its an illusion of holding people in a position of powerlessness, or irrelevance or non-existence or invisibility and then insisting that you are treating them as equals.

Let's take the Temple Mount as an example. Jews are permitted to be present on the Temple Mount, with significant restraints, as long as they are INVISIBLE AS JEWS.

The proof is in the pudding. There is no equality when you render another peoples non-existent.

 

[Sixties Fan]

“Evian was a death sentence," said Dr. Shimon Samuels, Wiesenthal Centre Director for International Relations, who spoke this week at an international gathering of experts in Evian on the 80th anniversary of the conference.

"It succeeded in its aims:

- proving Hitler's point that no-one and nowhere wanted the Jews;

- setting the appeasement scene of Munich a few weeks later;

- justifying the British White Paper that closed the doors of the Palestine Mandate;

- giving validity to the 1942 Wannsee Protocol, which listed by country the number of Jews to be murdered, totaling over 11 million.”

“Of 32 countries represented, 31 Ambassadors rose to explain why they would not take Jews. Only one, the Dominican Republic, offered 100,000 visas for German Jewish bachelor farmers. The bachelors were expected to marry Dominican women. Agriculturists were very few. Nevertheless, some 500 arrived after the outbreak of war - the last to leave Europe.”

“However, Evian carries another message" he continued, "... the indisputable justification for a Jewish State... the wandering Jew has a home... there are no more Jewish refugees... for Jews, there can never be another Evian.”

(full article online)

The July 1938 Conference that sealed the fate of European Jewry

 

[Hollie]

Global Empire - The Balfour Declaration: A Blood-Drenched Centenary

He keeps talking about the "creation" of a Jewish homeland. Right away he is misleading. The Jewish homeland ALREADY EXISTED. While the Jewish people did not self-determination, self-government or sovereignty over that homeland -- that fact that is IS the homeland of the Jewish people is indisputable.

"There were some plans to create a Jewish homeland out of the rift valley of Kenya or even Madagascar, but it was rejected because the Jewish people had these ideas of past (vague hand wave)... "Seriously? I mean, really, seriously? How about if we make a homeland for the Palestinians in Mongolia? After all...these "ideas of the past" aren't even worth finishing the freaking sentence over, right?

..."but just going to live with the Palestinian people...that was encompassed in the Palestinian congresses ...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...it contrasts with the Balfour Declaration ... and the non-Jewish community having civic and religious rights but they don't talk about having political rights and rights to self-determination and national identity...is no where expressed in there...in contrast to that the Palestinian Congress quite explicitly stated that those people who lived there should have rights to citizenship so there was very much a contrast." Wait, what? So he is saying that the Arabs offered MORE rights to the Jewish people than the Jewish people offered to them? That the Arab people offered the Jewish people political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity? Someone PAH-LEESE give me a link to that.

Oh, there we go, he corrects it in the next sentence -- he says that there was a conflict between the Eastern European Jews (who wanted political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity) with the Jews who were a small religious sect, completely integrated into the (Arabic) community. In other words, to clarify the double speak -- we would like to offer Jews political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity, well, as long as you don't actually WANT any of those things. Sheesh.

Oh and let's throw in a smear -- Eastern European Jews are, you know, distasteful.

Oh, and then he goes into a lovely comment about how Jewish people can't really be both ethnically Jewish and also be loyal to whatever country they find themselves in, therefore, they renounce their "Jewishness" in favor of their nationality. Can we just level THAT playing field, please? From now on, people of Palestinian heritage who have another nationality (nearly all of them in the diaspora) are not "really" Palestinian any more.

Okay, I give up on that one.

...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...

The Palestinians have always wanted equal rights for everyone without distinction. Even their current constitution states that all Palestinians shall be equal under the law without regard to race, religion, sex, etc...

That must be correct. We just have to ignore 1,400 years of Islamist history to accept your nonsense claim.

I’m hoping you can explain dhimmitude in the context of Islamic equal rights.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Global Empire - The Balfour Declaration: A Blood-Drenched Centenary

He keeps talking about the "creation" of a Jewish homeland. Right away he is misleading. The Jewish homeland ALREADY EXISTED. While the Jewish people did not self-determination, self-government or sovereignty over that homeland -- that fact that is IS the homeland of the Jewish people is indisputable.

"There were some plans to create a Jewish homeland out of the rift valley of Kenya or even Madagascar, but it was rejected because the Jewish people had these ideas of past (vague hand wave)... "Seriously? I mean, really, seriously? How about if we make a homeland for the Palestinians in Mongolia? After all...these "ideas of the past" aren't even worth finishing the freaking sentence over, right?

..."but just going to live with the Palestinian people...that was encompassed in the Palestinian congresses ...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...it contrasts with the Balfour Declaration ... and the non-Jewish community having civic and religious rights but they don't talk about having political rights and rights to self-determination and national identity...is no where expressed in there...in contrast to that the Palestinian Congress quite explicitly stated that those people who lived there should have rights to citizenship so there was very much a contrast." Wait, what? So he is saying that the Arabs offered MORE rights to the Jewish people than the Jewish people offered to them? That the Arab people offered the Jewish people political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity? Someone PAH-LEESE give me a link to that.

Oh, there we go, he corrects it in the next sentence -- he says that there was a conflict between the Eastern European Jews (who wanted political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity) with the Jews who were a small religious sect, completely integrated into the (Arabic) community. In other words, to clarify the double speak -- we would like to offer Jews political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity, well, as long as you don't actually WANT any of those things. Sheesh.

Oh and let's throw in a smear -- Eastern European Jews are, you know, distasteful.

Oh, and then he goes into a lovely comment about how Jewish people can't really be both ethnically Jewish and also be loyal to whatever country they find themselves in, therefore, they renounce their "Jewishness" in favor of their nationality. Can we just level THAT playing field, please? From now on, people of Palestinian heritage who have another nationality (nearly all of them in the diaspora) are not "really" Palestinian any more.

Okay, I give up on that one.

...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...

The Palestinians have always wanted equal rights for everyone without distinction. Even their current constitution states that all Palestinians shall be equal under the law without regard to race, religion, sex, etc...

That must be correct. We just have to ignore 1,400 years of Islamist history to accept your nonsense claim.

I’m hoping you can explain dhimmitude in the context of Islamic equal rights.

Sure, they haven't had it for 150 years.

 

[Hollie]

Global Empire - The Balfour Declaration: A Blood-Drenched Centenary

He keeps talking about the "creation" of a Jewish homeland. Right away he is misleading. The Jewish homeland ALREADY EXISTED. While the Jewish people did not self-determination, self-government or sovereignty over that homeland -- that fact that is IS the homeland of the Jewish people is indisputable.

"There were some plans to create a Jewish homeland out of the rift valley of Kenya or even Madagascar, but it was rejected because the Jewish people had these ideas of past (vague hand wave)... "Seriously? I mean, really, seriously? How about if we make a homeland for the Palestinians in Mongolia? After all...these "ideas of the past" aren't even worth finishing the freaking sentence over, right?

..."but just going to live with the Palestinian people...that was encompassed in the Palestinian congresses ...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...it contrasts with the Balfour Declaration ... and the non-Jewish community having civic and religious rights but they don't talk about having political rights and rights to self-determination and national identity...is no where expressed in there...in contrast to that the Palestinian Congress quite explicitly stated that those people who lived there should have rights to citizenship so there was very much a contrast." Wait, what? So he is saying that the Arabs offered MORE rights to the Jewish people than the Jewish people offered to them? That the Arab people offered the Jewish people political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity? Someone PAH-LEESE give me a link to that.

Oh, there we go, he corrects it in the next sentence -- he says that there was a conflict between the Eastern European Jews (who wanted political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity) with the Jews who were a small religious sect, completely integrated into the (Arabic) community. In other words, to clarify the double speak -- we would like to offer Jews political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity, well, as long as you don't actually WANT any of those things. Sheesh.

Oh and let's throw in a smear -- Eastern European Jews are, you know, distasteful.

Oh, and then he goes into a lovely comment about how Jewish people can't really be both ethnically Jewish and also be loyal to whatever country they find themselves in, therefore, they renounce their "Jewishness" in favor of their nationality. Can we just level THAT playing field, please? From now on, people of Palestinian heritage who have another nationality (nearly all of them in the diaspora) are not "really" Palestinian any more.

Okay, I give up on that one.

...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...

The Palestinians have always wanted equal rights for everyone without distinction. Even their current constitution states that all Palestinians shall be equal under the law without regard to race, religion, sex, etc...

That must be correct. We just have to ignore 1,400 years of Islamist history to accept your nonsense claim.

I’m hoping you can explain dhimmitude in the context of Islamic equal rights.

Sure, they haven't had it for 150 years.

They couldn’t enforce it. But the fact is, the fascistic imposition of dhimmitude is a core element of Islamic ideology and was imposed by Islamics in the geographic area of Pal’istan as it was elsewhere under Islamic fascist rule.

Sweeping it under your prayer rug doesn't change the history of Islamic fascism.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Great Book Robbery

 

[rylah]

The Great Book Robbery

Gathering books during war is a moral act, it shows the winning side has value for books.
Arabs used to loot Jewish communities in Palestine for centuries. Some of the findings in Arab houses included broken relics of ancient Synagogues in the area, Torah scrolls from Jerusalem gates that were stolen regularly, silver coins of Cohanim, golden covers of Torah scrolls.

During the Arab occupation of Jerusalem the Arab forces destroyed the archive of the Sephardic Committee. Thousands of official documents both Arabic and Turkish dating back to the beginning of the Ottoman conquest were destroyed intentionally:


The Archive of the Sephardic Comitee

"The greatest disaster occurred during the siege of Jerusalem in 1947-1948, when the house in which the office of the Sephardic Community Committee was destroyed, and material of a great historic documentary has been destroyed. The late president, Yitzhak Ben Zvi, was able to understand the importance of material and photocopy part of the collection of documents and certificates in the archive in question for the purposes of the 'Institute for Research of Jewish communities in the East', which bears his name.
In the period following the Six-Day War (June 1967), when various inquiries were needed to pry through the Turkish and Arab documents belonging to the Sephardi community in the the Old City of Jerusalem, and especially the assets of the Mikdash - such as the Mount of Olives, the Tomb of Simon the Righteous, land and houses in the village of Shiloah - the importance of that archive was re-established as both historic and legal.

The archive contains a long list of Turkish and Arabic documents from the beginning of the Ottoman occupation of the Land of Israel. These documents and certificates were issued by the judges in the Sharia court in Jerusalem (Hajja Sharaya), and a few are Sultana (Farman) orders, provincial authorities and the locals. Their special value lies in the fact that we have a precise and real archival material in the framework of fixed dates, that is, the kind that is not kept for us, for the most part, because of distress and damage which were passed by the Jewish communities; The matters discussed in these documents are agreements and contracts which were held between Jews, mainly the representatives (leaders) of the Jewish community (al-Taifa al Yahudiya), or (Al-Taifa al-Musuya) and the Arabs of the village of Ein Silwan (the village of Shiloah), opposite the wall, the city on the south side of Mazra (and residents of other places), on the purchase of plots, rights of passage, sale of land for cemeteries and the like.
In the documents, we read about the heads of the community who are conducting tedious negotiations with the guardians of the Muslim sanctities, defending the rights of their community, and participating as representatives of the community in interrogations. The formalities of the authorities, more than once, disputes broke out between representatives of the Sephardic community and the administrators of the sanctuary Madrasat al - Salihia , which were decided in the Shari'a court in favor of the former.

From time to time, the neighboring Arabs would steal the lands, and the Jews would have to redeem them. In this context, Jewish ownership of the Mount of Olives (Jabel al-Tur) and the cemetery is clarified - both the new and the old. Among these cases is one of the oldest property certificates dealing with the Mount of Olives, and it was originally preserved in the Jewish archives from 1537."

https://www.ybz.org.il/_Uploads/dbsAttachedFiles/Article_1.2.pdf

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[rylah]

Global Empire - The Balfour Declaration: A Blood-Drenched Centenary

He keeps talking about the "creation" of a Jewish homeland. Right away he is misleading. The Jewish homeland ALREADY EXISTED. While the Jewish people did not self-determination, self-government or sovereignty over that homeland -- that fact that is IS the homeland of the Jewish people is indisputable.

"There were some plans to create a Jewish homeland out of the rift valley of Kenya or even Madagascar, but it was rejected because the Jewish people had these ideas of past (vague hand wave)... "Seriously? I mean, really, seriously? How about if we make a homeland for the Palestinians in Mongolia? After all...these "ideas of the past" aren't even worth finishing the freaking sentence over, right?

..."but just going to live with the Palestinian people...that was encompassed in the Palestinian congresses ...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...it contrasts with the Balfour Declaration ... and the non-Jewish community having civic and religious rights but they don't talk about having political rights and rights to self-determination and national identity...is no where expressed in there...in contrast to that the Palestinian Congress quite explicitly stated that those people who lived there should have rights to citizenship so there was very much a contrast." Wait, what? So he is saying that the Arabs offered MORE rights to the Jewish people than the Jewish people offered to them? That the Arab people offered the Jewish people political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity? Someone PAH-LEESE give me a link to that.

Oh, there we go, he corrects it in the next sentence -- he says that there was a conflict between the Eastern European Jews (who wanted political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity) with the Jews who were a small religious sect, completely integrated into the (Arabic) community. In other words, to clarify the double speak -- we would like to offer Jews political rights, rights to self-determination and rights to national identity, well, as long as you don't actually WANT any of those things. Sheesh.

Oh and let's throw in a smear -- Eastern European Jews are, you know, distasteful.

Oh, and then he goes into a lovely comment about how Jewish people can't really be both ethnically Jewish and also be loyal to whatever country they find themselves in, therefore, they renounce their "Jewishness" in favor of their nationality. Can we just level THAT playing field, please? From now on, people of Palestinian heritage who have another nationality (nearly all of them in the diaspora) are not "really" Palestinian any more.

Okay, I give up on that one.

...they state quite clearly that anyone, those who have lived in Palestine, Mizrahi, Arab Jews, and those people who lived there, that those people should have full rights...

The Palestinians have always wanted equal rights for everyone without distinction. Even their current constitution states that all Palestinians shall be equal under the law without regard to race, religion, sex, etc...

That must be correct. We just have to ignore 1,400 years of Islamist history to accept your nonsense claim.

I’m hoping you can explain dhimmitude in the context of Islamic equal rights.

Sure, they haven't had it for 150 years.

They merely changed the name,
Muslims imposed 4 additional taxes on Palestinian Jews for merely being non-Muslim.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

“Evian was a death sentence," said Dr. Shimon Samuels, Wiesenthal Centre Director for International Relations, who spoke this week at an international gathering of experts in Evian on the 80th anniversary of the conference.

"It succeeded in its aims:

- proving Hitler's point that no-one and nowhere wanted the Jews;

- setting the appeasement scene of Munich a few weeks later;

- justifying the British White Paper that closed the doors of the Palestine Mandate;

- giving validity to the 1942 Wannsee Protocol, which listed by country the number of Jews to be murdered, totaling over 11 million.”

“Of 32 countries represented, 31 Ambassadors rose to explain why they would not take Jews. Only one, the Dominican Republic, offered 100,000 visas for German Jewish bachelor farmers. The bachelors were expected to marry Dominican women. Agriculturists were very few. Nevertheless, some 500 arrived after the outbreak of war - the last to leave Europe.”

“However, Evian carries another message" he continued, "... the indisputable justification for a Jewish State... the wandering Jew has a home... there are no more Jewish refugees... for Jews, there can never be another Evian.”

(full article online)

The July 1938 Conference that sealed the fate of European Jewry

Thirty-two countries at the July 1938 Evian Conference and only one country (with an ulterior motive) agrees to accept the desperate Jews of Europe! It should be known that the head of the Evian Conference was one, Earl Winterton, a British anti-Semite who sided with the Arabs on the Palestine issue.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: The Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate
※→ Ria_Longhorn, et al,

Our friend "Ria_Longhorn" has unmasked the very nature and true essence, and general consensus of the Europeans in 1938. Although the July Evians Conference was not the spark of the rath, nor even the starter fluid for the flame → that would soon change → being kindling for what would befall the Jewish People in Europe. It was only four short months later (November) that history would record the Kristallnacht; and the Question on the "Final Solution" (the Jewish Problem) are sown.

“in shortest order, actions against Jews and
especially their synagogues will take place in
all of Germany. These are not to be interfered with.”
Heinrich Müller, Reichsführer-SS
Reichssicherheitshauptamt [Reich Main Security Office (RSHA)]
Chef der Deutschen Polizei
​

• Politically note the intent of → the 1938 conference → "Jewish refugee problem and the plight of the increasing numbers of Jewish refugees fleeing persecution by Nazi Germany" → and the lack of any significant outcome.

Thirty-two countries at the July 1938 Evian Conference and only one country (with an ulterior motive) agrees to accept the desperate Jews of Europe! It should be known that the head of the Evian Conference was one, Earl Winterton, a British anti-Semite who sided with the Arabs on the Palestine issue.

{Just as a matter of note...}

Edward Turnour [AKA The 6th Earl Winterton (1883–1962)] was a man of Nobility (although privately considered a prate); Viscount Turnour (until 1907). Politically, the 6th Earl Winterton was considered a failure and largely ignored as a man of influence after the Evian Conference; the outcome being disappointing.

(COMMENT)

It is somewhat unclear if Earl Winterton as inept, or really anti-Jewish. Whatever the case, the plight of the Jewish people was not helped by anything coming out of the conference.

BUT this is not about today. We should talk about today.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

An article in The New York Times in 1981 reported on a reunion of some of those involved in the attack. It gives background on what led to the attack, noting that the Haganah, the Irgun and Lehi all endorsed the plan:
They were provoked by a British Army action against Jewish leaders and settlements on June 29, 1946. On that ''Black Saturday'' about 25,000 troops smashed into homes and kibbutzim, arresting 2,500 Jews and confiscating weapons.

''One search party marched into the dining hall at Givat Brenner shouting 'Heil Hitler!' Mr. Clarke wrote. ''Another party scrawled red swastikas on the walls of the settlement's classrooms. While searching the Bank Hapoalim in Tel Aviv, a British officer shouted at one of the clerks, 'What you need is the gas chamber!'''This 4-minute excerpt from the documentary "Pillar of Fire" gives more background, both on what led to the bombing of The King David Hotel and the conflicting stories on whether there was any warning given:

--------------------------
In his rebuttal of Segev, Yisrael Medad - an unofficial spokesperson for the Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria - notices a couple of significant differences:

• No civilian casualties were intended.
• No suicide mission was planned.

Specifically:
There was a telephoned warning. It was received. Flash grenades and a petard were set off. Phone calls from within the hotel from a signals officer who witnessed the shooting of a British Major were made to three separate security stations. The British troops on the roof opened fire for a few minutes on the escaping Irgun soldiers. Nothing set off alarm bells but we do have testimonies that the Brits all thought it was a bluff. [emphasis added]One of those testimonies comes from Adina Hay-Nissan, who at the time was a teenage girl with the job of calling in the warning. At the reunion, she recalled that she called up the British command that was stationed in the hotel and warned them, ''This is the Hebrew resistance uprising. We planted bombs in the hotel. Please vacate it immediately. See, we warned you.''

There is corroboration of this, delivered before the British Parliament on May 22, 1979, by Lord Greville Janner. At the time, Prime Minister Begin was visiting England and comments were being made about his responsibility for the King David Hotel attack. Lord Greville addressed Parliament about the issue:


(full article online)

Testimony In British Parliament Proves British Had Advanced Warning of King David Hotel Bombing -- and Laughed It Off (Daled Amos) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

Forget the movie: Second Officer William (Bill) Bernstein, an American Aliyah Bet volunteer crew member was found clubbed to death, 15-year-old refugee Zvi Jakubowitz, and one other died of bullet wounds.

(full article online)

The Exodus, July '47: When the British Navy attacked Holocaust victims

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

A History of Money in Palestine : The Case of the Frozen Bank Accounts of 1948

 

[rylah]

A History of Money in Palestine : The Case of the Frozen Bank Accounts of 1948

That's all nice mambo jumbo,

yet no Arab is willing to press charges for reparations, because they caused the most of property and finance loss in the conflict.

 

[rylah]

The community who's plight promoted the organization of
international Jewish diplomacy:

 

[rylah]

An influential figure both during the days of the mandate, and today in modern Israel's younger generation.