The Next Recession Is Going to Be Brutal. The economy is showing signs of turning ...

How about talking about the two President's who oversaw the two worst recoveries from recessions in American history, Faun? That would be FDR and Barack Obama.
You mean the two who had the worst economies handed to them?

We've had literally dozens of recessions over the years...some equally as bad as those two. What's remarkable about The Great Depression and The Great Recession is how two progressive "icons" managed to prolong the economic downturns they were given and turn them into glacially slow recoveries!

Barack Obama took office promising some vague "plan" to handle the economy...by midway through his second term he wasn't even trying to fix the economy. His economic dream team of Larry Summers and Christina Romer had both abandoned shit and run back to their tenured jobs at Harvard and Berkeley and nobody else in his administration had a clue about how to create jobs or grow the economy! Ask a thousand liberals who Barry's economic advisor was for the latter part of his last term and I'll bet you can't find ten that know who he/she was...let alone what plan they were pushing!
"We've had literally dozens of recessions over the years...some equally as bad as those two."

You're fucking deranged, ya lying con tool. There's just no other reason you could spew something so demented.

"There have been as many as 47 recessions in the United States dating back to the Articles of Confederation, and although economists and historians dispute certain 19th-century recessions,[1] the consensus view among economists and historians is that "The cyclical volatility of GNP and unemployment was greater before the Great Depression than it has been since the end of World War II."[2] Cycles in the country's agricultural production, industrial production, consumption, business investment, and the health of the banking industry contribute to these declines. U.S. recessions have increasingly affected economies on a worldwide scale, especially as countries' economies become more intertwined."
List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia
Seriously, lying con tool? Wikipedia??
icon_rolleyes.gif


Show me GDP and unemployment figures from an recession worse than the Great Depression...

So I show you that there have been dozens of recessions over the years and you ignore that and demand GDP and unemployment figures? You're amusing. So who was the liar, Faun? Me...when I said there were dozens of recessions...or YOU when you called me deranged for saying that?
 
You mean the two who had the worst economies handed to them?

We've had literally dozens of recessions over the years...some equally as bad as those two. What's remarkable about The Great Depression and The Great Recession is how two progressive "icons" managed to prolong the economic downturns they were given and turn them into glacially slow recoveries!

Barack Obama took office promising some vague "plan" to handle the economy...by midway through his second term he wasn't even trying to fix the economy. His economic dream team of Larry Summers and Christina Romer had both abandoned shit and run back to their tenured jobs at Harvard and Berkeley and nobody else in his administration had a clue about how to create jobs or grow the economy! Ask a thousand liberals who Barry's economic advisor was for the latter part of his last term and I'll bet you can't find ten that know who he/she was...let alone what plan they were pushing!
"We've had literally dozens of recessions over the years...some equally as bad as those two."

You're fucking deranged, ya lying con tool. There's just no other reason you could spew something so demented.

"There have been as many as 47 recessions in the United States dating back to the Articles of Confederation, and although economists and historians dispute certain 19th-century recessions,[1] the consensus view among economists and historians is that "The cyclical volatility of GNP and unemployment was greater before the Great Depression than it has been since the end of World War II."[2] Cycles in the country's agricultural production, industrial production, consumption, business investment, and the health of the banking industry contribute to these declines. U.S. recessions have increasingly affected economies on a worldwide scale, especially as countries' economies become more intertwined."
List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia
Seriously, lying con tool? Wikipedia??
icon_rolleyes.gif


Show me GDP and unemployment figures from an recession worse than the Great Depression...

So I show you that there have been dozens of recessions over the years and you ignore that and demand GDP and unemployment figures? You're amusing. So who was the liar, Faun? Me...when I said there were dozens of recessions...or YOU when you called me deranged for saying that?
Lying con tool, I pointed out you're deranged for saying other recessions were as bad as the Great Depression, not for saying there have been dozens of recessions.

So prove your claim... show GDP and unemployment from another recession that was as bad as the great Depression.....
 
Probably more of a flight to a good hedge while the US/China trade war goes on.

The same thing was said in 2017 when Treasury yields tanked
Normally if treasuries drop people will simply shift to funds. Which is what happened in 16-17.
There is a distinct difference between a yield dropping and a market collapsing...if countries dump their assets in US securities the market will crash. If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

The Fed will drastically raise rates and restrict liquidity after a market crash? Dude!!!
Probably more of a flight to a good hedge while the US/China trade war goes on.

The same thing was said in 2017 when Treasury yields tanked
Normally if treasuries drop people will simply shift to funds. Which is what happened in 16-17.
There is a distinct difference between a yield dropping and a market collapsing...if countries dump their assets in US securities the market will crash. If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

The Fed will drastically raise rates and restrict liquidity after a market crash? Dude!!!
The DOW's up 2,300 points since you posted that.
 
Probably more of a flight to a good hedge while the US/China trade war goes on.

The same thing was said in 2017 when Treasury yields tanked
Normally if treasuries drop people will simply shift to funds. Which is what happened in 16-17.
There is a distinct difference between a yield dropping and a market collapsing...if countries dump their assets in US securities the market will crash. If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

The Fed will drastically raise rates and restrict liquidity after a market crash? Dude!!!
Probably more of a flight to a good hedge while the US/China trade war goes on.

The same thing was said in 2017 when Treasury yields tanked
Normally if treasuries drop people will simply shift to funds. Which is what happened in 16-17.
There is a distinct difference between a yield dropping and a market collapsing...if countries dump their assets in US securities the market will crash. If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

The Fed will drastically raise rates and restrict liquidity after a market crash? Dude!!!
The DOW's up 2,300 points since you posted that.
Hope all republican scum were short
 
We've had literally dozens of recessions over the years...some equally as bad as those two. What's remarkable about The Great Depression and The Great Recession is how two progressive "icons" managed to prolong the economic downturns they were given and turn them into glacially slow recoveries!

Barack Obama took office promising some vague "plan" to handle the economy...by midway through his second term he wasn't even trying to fix the economy. His economic dream team of Larry Summers and Christina Romer had both abandoned shit and run back to their tenured jobs at Harvard and Berkeley and nobody else in his administration had a clue about how to create jobs or grow the economy! Ask a thousand liberals who Barry's economic advisor was for the latter part of his last term and I'll bet you can't find ten that know who he/she was...let alone what plan they were pushing!
"We've had literally dozens of recessions over the years...some equally as bad as those two."

You're fucking deranged, ya lying con tool. There's just no other reason you could spew something so demented.

"There have been as many as 47 recessions in the United States dating back to the Articles of Confederation, and although economists and historians dispute certain 19th-century recessions,[1] the consensus view among economists and historians is that "The cyclical volatility of GNP and unemployment was greater before the Great Depression than it has been since the end of World War II."[2] Cycles in the country's agricultural production, industrial production, consumption, business investment, and the health of the banking industry contribute to these declines. U.S. recessions have increasingly affected economies on a worldwide scale, especially as countries' economies become more intertwined."
List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia
Seriously, lying con tool? Wikipedia??
icon_rolleyes.gif


Show me GDP and unemployment figures from an recession worse than the Great Depression...

So I show you that there have been dozens of recessions over the years and you ignore that and demand GDP and unemployment figures? You're amusing. So who was the liar, Faun? Me...when I said there were dozens of recessions...or YOU when you called me deranged for saying that?
Lying con tool, I pointed out you're deranged for saying other recessions were as bad as the Great Depression, not for saying there have been dozens of recessions.

So prove your claim... show GDP and unemployment from another recession that was as bad as the great Depression.....

Um....you lost that exchange rather badly....

Jo
 
We've had literally dozens of recessions over the years...some equally as bad as those two. What's remarkable about The Great Depression and The Great Recession is how two progressive "icons" managed to prolong the economic downturns they were given and turn them into glacially slow recoveries!

Barack Obama took office promising some vague "plan" to handle the economy...by midway through his second term he wasn't even trying to fix the economy. His economic dream team of Larry Summers and Christina Romer had both abandoned shit and run back to their tenured jobs at Harvard and Berkeley and nobody else in his administration had a clue about how to create jobs or grow the economy! Ask a thousand liberals who Barry's economic advisor was for the latter part of his last term and I'll bet you can't find ten that know who he/she was...let alone what plan they were pushing!
"We've had literally dozens of recessions over the years...some equally as bad as those two."

You're fucking deranged, ya lying con tool. There's just no other reason you could spew something so demented.

"There have been as many as 47 recessions in the United States dating back to the Articles of Confederation, and although economists and historians dispute certain 19th-century recessions,[1] the consensus view among economists and historians is that "The cyclical volatility of GNP and unemployment was greater before the Great Depression than it has been since the end of World War II."[2] Cycles in the country's agricultural production, industrial production, consumption, business investment, and the health of the banking industry contribute to these declines. U.S. recessions have increasingly affected economies on a worldwide scale, especially as countries' economies become more intertwined."
List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia
Seriously, lying con tool? Wikipedia??
icon_rolleyes.gif


Show me GDP and unemployment figures from an recession worse than the Great Depression...

So I show you that there have been dozens of recessions over the years and you ignore that and demand GDP and unemployment figures? You're amusing. So who was the liar, Faun? Me...when I said there were dozens of recessions...or YOU when you called me deranged for saying that?
Lying con tool, I pointed out you're deranged for saying other recessions were as bad as the Great Depression, not for saying there have been dozens of recessions.

So prove your claim... show GDP and unemployment from another recession that was as bad as the great Depression.....

First of all there's a pretty big difference between a depression and a recession. Recessions are pretty much a naturally occurring process that accompanies macro growth. More or less unavoidable.
A depression on the other hand indicates that the fiat system used to achieve the previous growth period was probably a bubble with little to no asset underpinning that is undergoing a forced correction... Thank you very much John Maynard Keynes...

The Global currency correction of
2008 actually dwarves the original great depression ding bat... The big difference between the two was the
90 to 120 day asset rotation that was not present in 29 for obvious reasons.

Adjusting for escalating inflation
The 29 crash represented a 400 billion wealth loss over the course of about 4 days. That was a total mosquito compared to the 50 to 70 trillion lost in the week long crash of 2008.

So um ... Wtf are you even talking about?
 
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"We've had literally dozens of recessions over the years...some equally as bad as those two."

You're fucking deranged, ya lying con tool. There's just no other reason you could spew something so demented.

"There have been as many as 47 recessions in the United States dating back to the Articles of Confederation, and although economists and historians dispute certain 19th-century recessions,[1] the consensus view among economists and historians is that "The cyclical volatility of GNP and unemployment was greater before the Great Depression than it has been since the end of World War II."[2] Cycles in the country's agricultural production, industrial production, consumption, business investment, and the health of the banking industry contribute to these declines. U.S. recessions have increasingly affected economies on a worldwide scale, especially as countries' economies become more intertwined."
List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia
Seriously, lying con tool? Wikipedia??
icon_rolleyes.gif


Show me GDP and unemployment figures from an recession worse than the Great Depression...

So I show you that there have been dozens of recessions over the years and you ignore that and demand GDP and unemployment figures? You're amusing. So who was the liar, Faun? Me...when I said there were dozens of recessions...or YOU when you called me deranged for saying that?
Lying con tool, I pointed out you're deranged for saying other recessions were as bad as the Great Depression, not for saying there have been dozens of recessions.

So prove your claim... show GDP and unemployment from another recession that was as bad as the great Depression.....

First of all there's a pretty big difference between a depression and a recession. Recessions are pretty much a naturally occurring process that accompanies macro growth. More or less unavoidable.
A depression on the other hand indicates that the fiat system used to achieve the previous growth period was probably a bubble with little to no asset underpinning that is undergoing a forced correction... Thank you very much John Maynard Keynes...

The Global currency correction of
2008 actually dwarves the original great depression ding bat... The big difference between the two was the
90 to 120 day asset rotation that was not present in 29 for obvious reasons.

Adjusting for escalating inflation
The 29 crash represented a 400 billion wealth loss over the course of about 4 days. That was a total mosquito compared to the 50 to 70 trillion lost in the week long crash of 2008.

So um ... Wtf are you even talking about?
Retard... that was Oldstyle's the lying con tool's claim, not mine. Now wipe your chin, you look like a cheap ho.
 
"We've had literally dozens of recessions over the years...some equally as bad as those two."

You're fucking deranged, ya lying con tool. There's just no other reason you could spew something so demented.

"There have been as many as 47 recessions in the United States dating back to the Articles of Confederation, and although economists and historians dispute certain 19th-century recessions,[1] the consensus view among economists and historians is that "The cyclical volatility of GNP and unemployment was greater before the Great Depression than it has been since the end of World War II."[2] Cycles in the country's agricultural production, industrial production, consumption, business investment, and the health of the banking industry contribute to these declines. U.S. recessions have increasingly affected economies on a worldwide scale, especially as countries' economies become more intertwined."
List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia
Seriously, lying con tool? Wikipedia??
icon_rolleyes.gif


Show me GDP and unemployment figures from an recession worse than the Great Depression...

So I show you that there have been dozens of recessions over the years and you ignore that and demand GDP and unemployment figures? You're amusing. So who was the liar, Faun? Me...when I said there were dozens of recessions...or YOU when you called me deranged for saying that?
Lying con tool, I pointed out you're deranged for saying other recessions were as bad as the Great Depression, not for saying there have been dozens of recessions.

So prove your claim... show GDP and unemployment from another recession that was as bad as the great Depression.....

First of all there's a pretty big difference between a depression and a recession. Recessions are pretty much a naturally occurring process that accompanies macro growth. More or less unavoidable.
A depression on the other hand indicates that the fiat system used to achieve the previous growth period was probably a bubble with little to no asset underpinning that is undergoing a forced correction... Thank you very much John Maynard Keynes...

The Global currency correction of
2008 actually dwarves the original great depression ding bat... The big difference between the two was the
90 to 120 day asset rotation that was not present in 29 for obvious reasons.

Adjusting for escalating inflation
The 29 crash represented a 400 billion wealth loss over the course of about 4 days. That was a total mosquito compared to the 50 to 70 trillion lost in the week long crash of 2008.

So um ... Wtf are you even talking about?

A depression on the other hand indicates that the fiat system used to achieve the previous growth period was probably a bubble with little to no asset underpinning that is undergoing a forced correction...

We were on the gold standard during the Great Depression.
And during the depression of 1893.
 
"There have been as many as 47 recessions in the United States dating back to the Articles of Confederation, and although economists and historians dispute certain 19th-century recessions,[1] the consensus view among economists and historians is that "The cyclical volatility of GNP and unemployment was greater before the Great Depression than it has been since the end of World War II."[2] Cycles in the country's agricultural production, industrial production, consumption, business investment, and the health of the banking industry contribute to these declines. U.S. recessions have increasingly affected economies on a worldwide scale, especially as countries' economies become more intertwined."
List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia
Seriously, lying con tool? Wikipedia??
icon_rolleyes.gif


Show me GDP and unemployment figures from an recession worse than the Great Depression...

So I show you that there have been dozens of recessions over the years and you ignore that and demand GDP and unemployment figures? You're amusing. So who was the liar, Faun? Me...when I said there were dozens of recessions...or YOU when you called me deranged for saying that?
Lying con tool, I pointed out you're deranged for saying other recessions were as bad as the Great Depression, not for saying there have been dozens of recessions.

So prove your claim... show GDP and unemployment from another recession that was as bad as the great Depression.....

First of all there's a pretty big difference between a depression and a recession. Recessions are pretty much a naturally occurring process that accompanies macro growth. More or less unavoidable.
A depression on the other hand indicates that the fiat system used to achieve the previous growth period was probably a bubble with little to no asset underpinning that is undergoing a forced correction... Thank you very much John Maynard Keynes...

The Global currency correction of
2008 actually dwarves the original great depression ding bat... The big difference between the two was the
90 to 120 day asset rotation that was not present in 29 for obvious reasons.

Adjusting for escalating inflation
The 29 crash represented a 400 billion wealth loss over the course of about 4 days. That was a total mosquito compared to the 50 to 70 trillion lost in the week long crash of 2008.

So um ... Wtf are you even talking about?

A depression on the other hand indicates that the fiat system used to achieve the previous growth period was probably a bubble with little to no asset underpinning that is undergoing a forced correction...

We were on the gold standard during the Great Depression.
And during the depression of 1893.

Still a fiat....and it was grossly manipulated prior to the 29 crash.

It is the reason for the immediate shortfall of the asset base like food commodities for instance in 29 whereas in 2008 the pipeline was 90 to 120 days out. The proliferation of
Credit lines belied the total supply of the fiat which was limited precisely because it was a metal. While the standard price per ounce remained the same on paper the intrinsic value of the real asset was grossly depleted by the over-lending that could not be re-converted to spending value. In short the currency was in need of correction and boy howdy did it ever correct!

Jo
 
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Probably more of a flight to a good hedge while the US/China trade war goes on.

The same thing was said in 2017 when Treasury yields tanked
Normally if treasuries drop people will simply shift to funds. Which is what happened in 16-17.
There is a distinct difference between a yield dropping and a market collapsing...if countries dump their assets in US securities the market will crash. If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

The Fed will drastically raise rates and restrict liquidity after a market crash? Dude!!!
Probably more of a flight to a good hedge while the US/China trade war goes on.

The same thing was said in 2017 when Treasury yields tanked
Normally if treasuries drop people will simply shift to funds. Which is what happened in 16-17.
There is a distinct difference between a yield dropping and a market collapsing...if countries dump their assets in US securities the market will crash. If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

If the market crashes the fed will forces to restrict liquidity by drastically raising rates...we all know what will happen then...

The Fed will drastically raise rates and restrict liquidity after a market crash? Dude!!!
The DOW's up 2,300 points since you posted that.
Hope all republican scum were short
Bwaaaaaaahhhaaaaaa.I don't listen to idiots of the left, otherwise I would be a typical poor voter of the Demonrats.
 
Seriously, lying con tool? Wikipedia??
icon_rolleyes.gif


Show me GDP and unemployment figures from an recession worse than the Great Depression...

So I show you that there have been dozens of recessions over the years and you ignore that and demand GDP and unemployment figures? You're amusing. So who was the liar, Faun? Me...when I said there were dozens of recessions...or YOU when you called me deranged for saying that?
Lying con tool, I pointed out you're deranged for saying other recessions were as bad as the Great Depression, not for saying there have been dozens of recessions.

So prove your claim... show GDP and unemployment from another recession that was as bad as the great Depression.....

First of all there's a pretty big difference between a depression and a recession. Recessions are pretty much a naturally occurring process that accompanies macro growth. More or less unavoidable.
A depression on the other hand indicates that the fiat system used to achieve the previous growth period was probably a bubble with little to no asset underpinning that is undergoing a forced correction... Thank you very much John Maynard Keynes...

The Global currency correction of
2008 actually dwarves the original great depression ding bat... The big difference between the two was the
90 to 120 day asset rotation that was not present in 29 for obvious reasons.

Adjusting for escalating inflation
The 29 crash represented a 400 billion wealth loss over the course of about 4 days. That was a total mosquito compared to the 50 to 70 trillion lost in the week long crash of 2008.

So um ... Wtf are you even talking about?

A depression on the other hand indicates that the fiat system used to achieve the previous growth period was probably a bubble with little to no asset underpinning that is undergoing a forced correction...

We were on the gold standard during the Great Depression.
And during the depression of 1893.

Still a fiat....and it was grossly manipulated prior to the 29 crash.

It is the reason for the immediate shortfall of the asset base like food commodities for instance in 29 whereas in 2008 the pipeline was 90 to 120 days out. The proliferation of
Credit lines belied the total supply of the fiat which was limited precisely because it was a metal. While the standard price per ounce remained the same on paper the intrinsic value of the real asset was grossly depleted by the over-lending that could not be re-converted to spending value. In short the currency was in need of correction and boy howdy did it ever correct!

Jo
Still a fiat....and it was grossly manipulated prior to the 29 crash.

The gold standard was fiat?
Maybe you need to share your definition of fiat?
 
"We've had literally dozens of recessions over the years...some equally as bad as those two."

You're fucking deranged, ya lying con tool. There's just no other reason you could spew something so demented.

"There have been as many as 47 recessions in the United States dating back to the Articles of Confederation, and although economists and historians dispute certain 19th-century recessions,[1] the consensus view among economists and historians is that "The cyclical volatility of GNP and unemployment was greater before the Great Depression than it has been since the end of World War II."[2] Cycles in the country's agricultural production, industrial production, consumption, business investment, and the health of the banking industry contribute to these declines. U.S. recessions have increasingly affected economies on a worldwide scale, especially as countries' economies become more intertwined."
List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia
Seriously, lying con tool? Wikipedia??
icon_rolleyes.gif


Show me GDP and unemployment figures from an recession worse than the Great Depression...

So I show you that there have been dozens of recessions over the years and you ignore that and demand GDP and unemployment figures? You're amusing. So who was the liar, Faun? Me...when I said there were dozens of recessions...or YOU when you called me deranged for saying that?
Lying con tool, I pointed out you're deranged for saying other recessions were as bad as the Great Depression, not for saying there have been dozens of recessions.

So prove your claim... show GDP and unemployment from another recession that was as bad as the great Depression.....

First of all there's a pretty big difference between a depression and a recession. Recessions are pretty much a naturally occurring process that accompanies macro growth. More or less unavoidable.
A depression on the other hand indicates that the fiat system used to achieve the previous growth period was probably a bubble with little to no asset underpinning that is undergoing a forced correction... Thank you very much John Maynard Keynes...

The Global currency correction of
2008 actually dwarves the original great depression ding bat... The big difference between the two was the
90 to 120 day asset rotation that was not present in 29 for obvious reasons.

Adjusting for escalating inflation
The 29 crash represented a 400 billion wealth loss over the course of about 4 days. That was a total mosquito compared to the 50 to 70 trillion lost in the week long crash of 2008.

So um ... Wtf are you even talking about?

The 1929 crash lasted ten years, not one year like the 2008 crash. In the great depression, the GDP fell by 46% over 5 years before it started to rise again.

You are evidently badly misinformed as are all Trump supporters. Trump supporters will believe any lies Donald Trump tells them.

Great Depression - Wikipedia

... The Great Depression started in the United States after a major fall in stock prices that began around September 4, 1929, and became worldwide news with the stock market crash of October 29, 1929, (known as Black Tuesday). Between 1929 and 1932, worldwide gross domestic product (GDP) fell by an estimated 15%. By comparison, worldwide GDP fell by less than 1% from 2008 to 2009 during the Great Recession.[4] Some economies started to recover by the mid-1930s. However, in many countries, the negative effects of the Great Depression lasted until the beginning of World War II.[5]
The Great Depression had devastating effects in countries both rich and poor. Personal income, tax revenue, profits and prices dropped, while international trade plunged by more than 50%. Unemployment in the U.S. rose to 25% and in some countries rose as high as 33%.[6]
Cities around the world were hit hard, especially those dependent on heavy industry. Construction was virtually halted in many countries. Farming communities and rural areas suffered as crop prices fell by about 60%.[7][8][9] Facing plummeting demand with few alternative sources of jobs, areas dependent on primary sector industries such as mining and logging suffered the most.[10]
 
The 1929 crash lasted ten years, not one year like the 2008 crash. In the great depression, the GDP fell by 46% over 5 years before it started to rise again.

Of course. FDR auto-eroticized it with his socialist nonsense. The war took care of it.
 
The 1929 crash lasted ten years, not one year like the 2008 crash. In the great depression, the GDP fell by 46% over 5 years before it started to rise again.

Of course. FDR auto-eroticized it with his socialist nonsense. The war took care of it.

The sight of dead foreigners excites American consumers into a buying frenzy?

Living, dead. Either way, the American elite can't get enough foreigners.
 

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