The McCain Amendment-The Man Who Thinks He Should Rule

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    It's time to use the veto Mr. Bush...

    http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007477

     
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    The amendment in no way "ties the president's hands". It simply pronibits the military from using intelligence gathering techniques which it is already prohibited from using under international treaty and federal law.
     
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    If its already prohibited then why make another law.
     
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    Don't confuse Bully with logic:)

    I am surprised anyone can stand McCain. I mean the man is like the preeminent opposer of Free speech in the Senate. That is one of the main reason conservatives dislike him so much.

    That and I am tired of him thinking that the fact that he was a POW makes him immune to any criticism of his policies and actions long after Vietnam is over. And I am tired of seeing him admit that he lies while he claims every politician does so and expects us to vote for him for "being honest about it" Bosh. If you want to stop corruption in politics, stop being corrupt.

    And while this may be a side issue on the pow thing. Am I the only one who seems to think that its not heroic to be captured? Don't get me wrong I am grateful that men like him were willing to sacrifice and serve. But just putting on the uniform and fighting for one's country doesn't make you heroic. Heroism is something far more and I think it get's cheapened when its applied to even actions such as being captured. Now fighting to 10 to 1 odds to rescue captured troops or staging a prisoner break from within is heroic, but simply being captured? Am I the only one who is seeing this?
     
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    Excusem moi? Are you talking about the French?

    Fighters for freedom are always heroic at least in my book and getting captured is part of the fight. Unless you disobey orders and put yourself right into their hands somehow, getting captured is basically a numbers game, a result of the overall game plan and fight, not something to be ashamed of. It also takes guts to suffer through captivity.
    I admire McCain for his service even though I can't stand him as a politician.
     
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    i think i read some place while he was a pow he basically through the code of conduct out the window for medical treatment or something like that.
     
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    I was just going to post that same sentiment. Although I admire McCain's military service and how he conducted himself under unconscionable circumstances as a POW, I don't have that same regard for him as a politician.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain
    He was given the option of leaving the prison early... and chose to stay there and let other American POW's go home instead.

    Does that count as heroic?
     
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    Interesting find!! I don't think he really knows what side he's on these days.... I used to repsect him :rolleyes:
     

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