Are Illegal Aliens Costing America, Or Not?

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    I won't name names, but I have a board member PM'ing me with their opinion that America should "open" it's borders, and that it wouldn't make any difference. That America is "better off" with all it's illegals here. I couldn't disagree more.

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    Federation for American Immigration Reform=fairus.org

    I really do not like groups that don't tell us 'who we are' such as persons behind this group. :rolleyes: They just post what they want and ask for contributions. Wouldn't be surprised if Soros was behind it.
     
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    I wouldn't know about that. I was just looking for stats.

    But I see the person that was so vehement about open borders, and that illegal immigrants are good for America, must have gotten lost. Here's their chance, and it stands empty.
     
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    Believe it or not, I am all for opening the borders.

    But to do that they must be closed first and security put in place to prevent crossings except at the designated points.

    Then we have to ramp up the tech to positively ID each person and compare to the CIA, FBI, NSA, Interpol DATABASES to make sure we are not letting in a known terrorist or other criminal.

    At that point they are classified as to intent and the duration of stay established.
     
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    I'm all for immigration, but not 'open immigration.' We are way past the point that any and all are welcome.
     
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    Well, you say what you'd like to see, but not why.

    "WHY" do you want to see open borders?
     
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    Once we have verified that we are not letting in known criminals, then welcome to America. This is a land of immigrants, but we need to protect who's already here first. I surely don't believe we should just tear down the fences and sell em for scrap metal.
     
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    And I completely agree with that Kathy. At this point, this country doesn't "need" any more people. "Legal" immigration is far enough of a flow of new people all by itself.
     
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    Well I guess we disagree on that. I don't think we can afford or should take 'all who wish to come here, but aren't criminals.' Just don't have the resources for the illiterate, poor, etc. There have always been exceptions made for politically/religiously persecuted. (With the serious exception of the Jews in WWII, we've been pretty good about that.)
     
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    First thing you noticed in my post was establishing security right? Good.
    Next thing you noticed in my post was verification of identity right? Good.

    What I actually said was "opening the borders". By that I mean eliminating quotas. As said, once we verify we are not letting in the criminal scum, then it's Welcome to America.

    That was background, now the "Why". See I can get to a point LOL.

    I support eliminating immigration quotas because that is one of the things that America is all about. Unless you are a pure blooded Indian then you are the product of an immigrant family.

    Elsewhere I have posted about things we should require from immigrants to ensure that we are getting "our kind" of people as citizens.

    HTH
     

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