The liberal march towards EXTREME fascism

[justinacolmena]

Culture exists.

There is always some culture to the leftist / liberal politics. Every culture has positive and negative aspects, but in the leftist march toward fascism we see a resurgence of the World War I/II Axis we fought so hard to conquer so many years ago:

• Italian-style organized criminal Mafia and statist-corporatist fascism
• German-style Nazism, white nationalism, national socialism, and social "democracy"
• Japanese-style sex-segregated Shogun-warrior and Geisha-service mentality.
• Austrian-style psychiatry, sexology, personality typology, psychoanalysis, etc. (Sigmund Freud & Carl Jung et al.)
• Russian-style old-guard hard-line Soviet KGB communist Bolshevism (to which even the GOP has yielded under Donald Trump,) where only certain very wealthy nationalists, statists, and corporatists are allowed to join "the Party," whereas the rest of us are supposed to make do with public assistance and labor union representation.
• Vietnamese Viet-Cong-style legal marijuana, and the other drugs that go along with that for which the floodgates are opened, LSD, mushrooms, PCP, crack, heroin, opiates, alcohol, benzos, roofies, date rape drugs, psychedelics, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants, mood stabilizers, pain relievers, and so on and so forth... Just say no? Right. You can "just say no" till you're blue in the face and may as well be running your own drug test lab, but it just doesn't do any good. Everything we eat or drink is spiked or doped on site if not at the factory or bottling plant. The U.S. gave up the war on drugs in the 1970s, we've been so addicted ever since that we aren't even allowed to possess firearms anymore.

The positive aspects of each culture, which ought to be preserved and propagated for posterity, are generally those that do not involve lies, drugs, alcohol, or sex-for-money.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

2.) You ARE too stupid, and unfeeling (Apathetic + Psychopathic) to get that our culture has value, and that you lived in this culture, and that has meaning.

The founders risked life and limb to create a nation for people to escape miserable morons like you.

I'm sure much of the World in the 19th century , wish they could avoid miserable, mass murdering, Capitalist British pricks like you.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Culture exists.

There is always some culture to the leftist / liberal politics. Every culture has positive and negative aspects, but in the leftist march toward fascism we see a resurgence of the World War I/II Axis we fought so hard to conquer so many years ago:

• Italian-style organized criminal Mafia and statist-corporatist fascism
• German-style Nazism, white nationalism, national socialism, and social "democracy"
• Japanese-style sex-segregated Shogun-warrior and Geisha-service mentality.
• Austrian-style psychiatry, sexology, personality typology, psychoanalysis, etc. (Sigmund Freud & Carl Jung et al.)
• Russian-style old-guard hard-line Soviet KGB communist Bolshevism (to which even the GOP has yielded under Donald Trump,) where only certain very wealthy nationalists, statists, and corporatists are allowed to join "the Party," whereas the rest of us are supposed to make do with public assistance and labor union representation.
• Vietnamese Viet-Cong-style legal marijuana, and the other drugs that go along with that for which the floodgates are opened, LSD, mushrooms, PCP, crack, heroin, opiates, alcohol, benzos, roofies, date rape drugs, psychedelics, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants, mood stabilizers, pain relievers, and so on and so forth... Just say no? Right. You can "just say no" till you're blue in the face and may as well be running your own drug test lab, but it just doesn't do any good. Everything we eat or drink is spiked or doped on site if not at the factory or bottling plant. The U.S. gave up the war on drugs in the 1970s, we've been so addicted ever since that we aren't even allowed to possess firearms anymore.

The positive aspects of each culture, which ought to be preserved and propagated for posterity, are generally those that do not involve lies, drugs, alcohol, or sex-for-money.

1.) Mussolini actually tackled the Mafia issue in Italy.

Sicilian Mafia during the Mussolini regime - Wikipedia

2.) Mussolini killed probably less people than W Bush... and definitely less than FDR, Churchill, or Truman.

3.) Nazis killed a lot, but not like British Capitalists have.

4.) Germans sent the train of Bolsheviks to Russia in 1917.... Without Capitalist bankers like the Jew Jacob Schiff, it's unlikely the Bolsheviks could've possibly had the power to out-muscle Tsarist Russia.

 

[P@triot]

Culture exists.

Nobody said it doesn’t, snowflake.

What would writing it down have to do with anything?

Nobody said anything about writing down culture. You said (and I quote for the third time now) “culture is NOT supposed to change much". I asked who said that culture isn’t supposed to change? Where is it written? Why can’t you answer the question?

 

[P@triot]

I think you're just a very primitive Brit Hick..

Being that you’re a dumb polack, you’re not really capable of thinking. Hence your inability to draw an accurate conclusion.

 

[P@triot]

The founders risked life and limb to create a nation for people to escape miserable morons like you.

I'm sure much of the World in the 19th century , wish they could avoid miserable, mass murdering, Capitalist British pricks like you.

Yeah...uh...I never murdered anyone (much less “mass murder”).

 

[P@triot]

No, you always talk about Founders first, but you disobey them on the Naturalization Act of 1790, anyways...

Um...snowflake? I don’t “disobey” the founders. They set up a system allowing We the People to chart our own course. They never intended for future generations to “obey” them. That system which they set up was legally and properly leveraged to create the 14th Amendment. It is law. Period. End of story.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The center of a Nation is the culture of it, the Government is supposed to be there to protect that culture.

...if you hate capitalism so much, why don't you get the fuck out of the U.S.? Enough said.

Links like these support that the Founding Fathers were for at least some regulation of Corporations, and at least Social hand outs by government. .

It totally smashes the claim that the Founder's were some mega Capitalists.

What the Founding Fathers Believed: Stock Ownership for All

Madison wrote in a letter on voting that “the owners of the country itself form the safest basis of free government” and stressed “the universal hope of acquiring property.” Washington, in a letter on immigration,
said broad-based ownership would insure “the happiness of the lowest class of people because of the equal distribution of property.” Adams favored“preserving the balance of power on the side of equal liberty and public virtue (by making) … the acquisition of land easy to every member of society.”

Jefferson wrote to Madison that “legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property.”

Even Alexander Hamilton, favorite of the moneyed interests, argued that few people wanted to be wage laborers only, and he believed, like Henry Ford centuries later, that a strong middle class was needed to become energetic customers of businesses in the entire economy.

This view showed up in policies. Washington gave tax incentives to New England cod fishers to rebuild their fleets after the Revolutionary War on the condition that the captains and the crew sign contracts ensuring broad-based profit sharing among all workers. He also favored grants of substantial land to veterans of the Revolutionary War to make them into self-sufficient property-owners. Jefferson made the Louisiana Purchase to allow for more land ownership by citizens. The founders also sought to outlaw primogeniture, the practice whereby all property was inherited by the first-born son, the underpinning of feudal economies throughout Europe.

Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States

Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals. Enabling shareholders to profit was seen as a means to that end. The states also imposed conditions (some of which remain on the books, though unused) like these*:

• Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
• Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
• Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
• Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
• Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
• Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

No, you always talk about Founders first, but you disobey them on the Naturalization Act of 1790, anyways...

Um...snowflake? I don’t “disobey” the founders. They set up a system allowing We the People to chart our own course. They never intended for future generations to “obey” them. That system which they set up was legally and properly leveraged to create the 14th Amendment. It is law. Period. End of story.

In a 1790 House debate on naturalization, James Madison opined: “It is no doubt very desirable that we should hold out as many inducements as possible for the worthy part of mankind to come and settle amongst us, and throw their fortunes into a common lot with ours. But why is this desirable?” The Trouble with the ‘Nation of Immigrants’ Argument No, not because “diversity” is our greatest value. No, not because Big Business needed cheap labor. And no, Madison asserted, “Not merely to swell the catalogue of people. No, sir, it is to increase the wealth and strength of the community; and those who acquire the rights of citizenship, without adding to the strength or wealth of the community are not the people we are in want of.” Madison argued plainly that America should welcome the immigrant who could assimilate, but exclude the immigrant who could not readily “incorporate himself into our society.” George Washington, in a letter to John Adams, similarly emphasized that immigrants should be absorbed into American life so that, “by an intermixture with our people, they, or their descendants, get assimilated to our customs, measures, laws: in a word soon become one people.” Alexander Hamilton, relevant as ever today, wrote in 1802: “The safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias and prejudice; and on that love of country which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education, and family.” EDITORIAL: Reform Immigration for All Religions Hamilton further warned that “the United States have already felt the evils of incorporating a large number of foreigners into their national mass; by promoting in different classes different predilections in favor of particular foreign nations, and antipathies against others, it has served very much to divide the community and to distract our councils. It has been often likely to compromise the interests of our own country in favor of another.” He predicted, correctly, that “the permanent effect of such a policy will be, that in times of great public danger there will be always a numerous body of men, of whom there may be just grounds of distrust; the suspicion alone will weaken the strength of the nation, but their force may be actually employed in assisting an invader.” RELATED: True Immigration Reform Would Integrate Immigrants into Society The survival of the American republic, Hamilton maintained, depends upon “the preservation of a national spirit and a national character.” He asserted: “To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens the moment they put foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty.”

Read more at: Immigration and the Values of Our Founding Fathers

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The founders risked life and limb to create a nation for people to escape miserable morons like you.

I'm sure much of the World in the 19th century , wish they could avoid miserable, mass murdering, Capitalist British pricks like you.

Yeah...uh...I never murdered anyone (much less “mass murder”).

If you can mock Fascist Poles in a negative light, why can't I mock Capitalist Brits in a negative light?

 

[P@triot]

Jefferson wrote to Madison that “legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property.”

I never cease to marvel at your inability to understand that you are defeating your own position. What is Thomas Jefferson advocating in his letter to James Madison? The same thing he always advocated for - liberty. Limited government. Keeping government out of the matter.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Jefferson wrote to Madison that “legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property.”

I never cease to marvel at your inability to understand that you are defeating your own position. What is Thomas Jefferson advocating in his letter to James Madison? The same thing he always advocated for - liberty. Limited government. Keeping government out of the matter.

The rest of the comment that you deleted?????????????????????

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

No, you always talk about Founders first, but you disobey them on the Naturalization Act of 1790, anyways...

They set up a system allowing We the People to chart our own course.

We the People is Collectivism, no?

So, if we the People fought for Fascism then it could become an Amendment, huh?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Republicans in the Immigrant take over.

In all seriousness...you might be the biggest pussy I have encountered. You live 24x7 in fear of someone who doesn't look like you "taking over" (while, ironically enough, you scream to take over black people). I've never seen such a scared little boy.

I support a Black American National Homeland.

I outlined a comment giving some reasons for it.

You IGNORED it.

I guess you do NOT support Black American sovereignty.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Education is poor. with a lot of Africans having very limited, and quite a few never going to school.

Apparently it is in Poland as well...

Nope... You're stupid, like usual.

you claim that the founders should be obeyed at all costs while preaching about fascism and stripping people of their 1st Amendment rights.

Well, it looks like many of the Media, and Hollywood corporations would have been shut down by now by the Charter lengths, and that it's debatable if CNN, or MSNBC showed up they'd even get a Charter back then.... Because it looks like that falls on public harm, and exceeding authority.

So, actually in some ways the Founders were kind of Fascist like, but with also some Capitalist like views too.

Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States

Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals. Enabling shareholders to profit was seen as a means to that end. The states also imposed conditions (some of which remain on the books, though unused) like these*:

• Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
• Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
• Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
• Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
• Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
• Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.

 

[bripat9643]

Economics of fascism - Wikipedia

l, fascist economies were based on private property and private initiative, but these were contingent upon service to the state.[17]

Fascist governments encouraged the pursuit of private profit and offered many benefits to large businesses, but they demanded in return that all economic activity should serve the national interest.

Bwahahahahaha! If it is (and I quote) "contingent upon service to the state" then there is nothing "private" about it. My God you are a special sort of stupid.

bripat9643 - help me out here. Would you please explain to this dimwit that control by the state means it is not "private". He's one of those "special" children that requires special education teachers. I don't have the skillset to get through to people that stupid. Maybe you do?

I agree with you, but I have little interest in schooling this numskull. He's so far gone that it would take a year just to get him to understand the meaning of all the terms he uses.

 

[P@triot]

So, if we the People fought for Fascism then it could become an Amendment, huh?

If you can get the votes to legally and properly amend the U.S. Constitution - yes. You could have unlimited fascism. Good luck with that.

 

[P@triot]

I support a Black American National Homeland.

You stated that all blacks should have their citizenship revoked. Therefore, there couldn’t be an “black American homeland”. So once again you contradict yourself.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I support a Black American National Homeland.

You stated that all blacks should have their citizenship revoked. Therefore, there couldn’t be an “black American homeland”. So once again you contradict yourself.

Well, I'd turn Mississippi into a Black homeland, and then revoke Blacks in the U.S. of their citizenship.

 

[HappyJoy]

That moment when a wingnut realizes fascists actually come from his side of the political spectrum. Yeah, that's happening here.