The Left's Unlikely Alliance with Islam

[daveman]

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Try again, Mr. Incompetent.

Oh, and I forgot.

What has the right, with 8 years under Bush, done to defeat al Qaeda? If only they could name a single success or an accomplishment, then might have a very tenuous argument. But as it stands now.....

We've killed a whole shitload of them.

You're welcome.

BUT BUT BUT they were all innocent Muslims.

 

[ConHog]

Most of the left is Christian, lib. What a loony remark.

Pure bullshit. If this board is ANY indication, and I think it is, most of the left openly hate Christians, and those who claim Christianity pervert it into another religion completely. Or they are just completely lying.

 

[Londoner]

Do people on the Right understand the oil partnerships many of their leaders have with Saudi Arabia? Do they understand the policies created by the Right to strengthen our dependence on terrorist nations?

Do you understand that the policies of the Left...refusal to allow us to drill for our own oil, blocking construction of nuclear power plants...has given us no choice but to deal with the Saudis and other terror-supporting nations?

Republicans at the highest levels have blocked it because they don't want to risk the economy of their coastlines.

The Spokesman-Review.com - Bush prevents oil, gas drilling off Florida coast

But yes, I agree. The Left is absolutely responsible for the reasons you cite -- especially with nuclear power. I think we are going to learn very soon, however, that there are no Saudi size fields off the coast of Florida or California. The low hanging fruit in the US is gone, which is why Big Oil prefers easy Saudi oil to the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

 

[hipeter924]

When leftists say these words, this is what they are usually thinking (when they aren't worshiping big brother):

Israel = A center of western religion, must destroy to create world socialist state.

Zionism = Need to complete the Nazi Holocaust.

Religious Tolerance = Need to destroy all western religions.

Racism = Pre-existing national culture and language is not destroyed enough.

Better government = Need a big government bureaucracy controlling society.

Islamophobe = Enemy of the people, kill, destroy, persecute.

United Nations = Creating a better world.

Poverty = *Capitalism is evil, destroy all private companies, end private ownership of property.

Higher taxes = Higher living standards, more jobs.

Government = Protector/Saviour of the people that can do no wrong (unless corrupted by capitalism*).

 

[daveman]

Do people on the Right understand the oil partnerships many of their leaders have with Saudi Arabia? Do they understand the policies created by the Right to strengthen our dependence on terrorist nations?

Do you understand that the policies of the Left...refusal to allow us to drill for our own oil, blocking construction of nuclear power plants...has given us no choice but to deal with the Saudis and other terror-supporting nations?

Republicans at the highest levels have blocked it because they don't want to risk the economy of their coastlines.

The Spokesman-Review.com - Bush prevents oil, gas drilling off Florida coast

But yes, I agree. The Left is absolutely responsible for the reasons you cite -- especially with nuclear power. I think we are going to learn very soon, however, that there are no Saudi size fields off the coast of Florida or California. The low hanging fruit in the US is gone, which is why Big Oil prefers easy Saudi oil to the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

The Left supports any energy reform that doesn't include the words "drill", "for", and "oil".

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are loon. Move along.

 

[ConHog]

Do you understand that the policies of the Left...refusal to allow us to drill for our own oil, blocking construction of nuclear power plants...has given us no choice but to deal with the Saudis and other terror-supporting nations?

Republicans at the highest levels have blocked it because they don't want to risk the economy of their coastlines.

The Spokesman-Review.com - Bush prevents oil, gas drilling off Florida coast

But yes, I agree. The Left is absolutely responsible for the reasons you cite -- especially with nuclear power. I think we are going to learn very soon, however, that there are no Saudi size fields off the coast of Florida or California. The low hanging fruit in the US is gone, which is why Big Oil prefers easy Saudi oil to the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

The Left supports any energy reform that doesn't include the words "drill", "for", and "oil".

They don't like the word nuclear either. I guess they think we can run the world off of fairy dust.

 

[daveman]

You are loon. Move along.

Really? Show me a Democrat proposal to allow drilling for US oil where it can be safely gotten to.

 

[electricpotato]

Evangelical wackos have declared war against Islam and screw the Constitution thank you very much.

Islamic fascists have declared war against the USA and wish to destroy the constitution. Thank God there are people with enough balls to stand up to defend this nation so asswipe morons like you can speak your limited mind freely.

"Islamic fascists" (yeah the "durp fascism line" was pretty much watered down to obnoxious pointlesness during the 60's or so, sorry pal) may have declared war against the States, but they surely couldn't give a fuck when it comes to the precious constitution. Your average Islamist militant couldn't care less about the internal workings of the United States and things happening nicely within its borders is not really relevant to their cause. They merely don't want you anywhere near their sphere of influence and right now, they're defending that sphere of influence. It's not like they just thought they'd invade a country on another side of the globe just because they disapproved of the lifestyle in the United States. Not even the proudest flag-waving Uncle Sam Patriot could deny the fact that they obviously were provocated to what they're doing right now.

So yeah, sorry to burst your bubble, boy, but the evil Islamists don't hate your liberty. They probably couldn't care less, actually.

 

[daveman]

Republicans at the highest levels have blocked it because they don't want to risk the economy of their coastlines.

The Spokesman-Review.com - Bush prevents oil, gas drilling off Florida coast

But yes, I agree. The Left is absolutely responsible for the reasons you cite -- especially with nuclear power. I think we are going to learn very soon, however, that there are no Saudi size fields off the coast of Florida or California. The low hanging fruit in the US is gone, which is why Big Oil prefers easy Saudi oil to the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

The Left supports any energy reform that doesn't include the words "drill", "for", and "oil".

They don't like the word nuclear either. I guess they think we can run the world off of fairy dust.

That's the problem with leftists: Magical thinking.

 

[Sheldon]

When leftists say these words, this is what they are usually thinking (when they aren't worshiping big brother):

Israel = A center of western religion, must destroy to create world socialist state.

Zionism = Need to complete the Nazi Holocaust.

Religious Tolerance = Need to destroy all western religions.

Racism = Pre-existing national culture and language is not destroyed enough.

Better government = Need a big government bureaucracy controlling society.

Islamophobe = Enemy of the people, kill, destroy, persecute.

United Nations = Creating a better world.

Poverty = *Capitalism is evil, destroy all private companies, end private ownership of property.

Higher taxes = Higher living standards, more jobs.

Government = Protector/Saviour of the people that can do no wrong (unless corrupted by capitalism*).

bwhahahaha

you're fucking retarded.

 

[hipeter924]

You are loon. Move along.

Really? Show me a Democrat proposal to allow drilling for US oil where it can be safely gotten to.

Don't be silly, they don't worry about public safety when they can send people who ask questions to the gulag.

 

[hipeter924]

When leftists say these words, this is what they are usually thinking (when they aren't worshiping big brother):

Israel = A center of western religion, must destroy to create world socialist state.

Zionism = Need to complete the Nazi Holocaust.

Religious Tolerance = Need to destroy all western religions.

Racism = Pre-existing national culture and language is not destroyed enough.

Better government = Need a big government bureaucracy controlling society.

Islamophobe = Enemy of the people, kill, destroy, persecute.

United Nations = Creating a better world.

Poverty = *Capitalism is evil, destroy all private companies, end private ownership of property.

Higher taxes = Higher living standards, more jobs.

Government = Protector/Saviour of the people that can do no wrong (unless corrupted by capitalism*).

bwhahahaha

you're fucking retarded.

you're fucking retarded = I hate being exposed.

 

[California Girl]

Yeah, those liberal bastards defending the freedom of religion!

Seriously, y'all are confusing (or purposely spinning that) defending a group against religious persecution and advocating their right to worship with condoning or even adhering to the belief set of said religion.

Liberals defend freedom of religion, as do conservatives. The rabid fringe on both sides use religion for their own ends. They could give a shit about 'religion', they just want weapons to hit the 'other side' with.

The funny thing about liberals is that you seem to think you are the ONLY defenders of freedom. That is pretty fucking funny to me.

 

[Londoner]

Racism = Pre-existing national culture and language is not destroyed enough.

German "homelanders" (represented in the 30's by the Völkisch movement) believed that the liberalism of the Enlightenment and French Revolution lead to an over-assimilation of jews, especially in Baden (the most liberal region of prewar Germany). They claimed that liberalism ("tolerance") allowed Jews to obtain disproportionate influence over German politics, finance, and culture. They said that this Jewish influence was murdering the Real Germany, weakening their Christianity and sacred traditions.

That is, Germany of the 30's represents the modern archetype of "Borders, Language, Culture".

If you listen to how the Right talks about Mexicans, Muslims, Homosexuals, & Liberals, you will hear the exact same idea.

Here is what people do not understand: once the Right gets their next homeland attack (which will give them the political conditions to finally expel their growing list of internal enemies), you will see the violent side of "Borders, Language, Culture".

History is not about linear progress. It always repeats itself.

 

[California Girl]

You are loon. Move along.

There you go again, Jokey.... thinking you own the place again.

 

[daveman]

You are loon. Move along.

There you go again, Jokey.... thinking you own the place again.

I beg to differ: Jake doesn't think. He feels. Leftists are driven solely by emotion.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Racism = Pre-existing national culture and language is not destroyed enough.

German "homelanders" (represented in the 30's by the Völkisch movement) believed that the liberalism of the Enlightenment and French Revolution lead to an over-assimilation of jews, especially in Baden (the most liberal region of prewar Germany). They claimed that liberalism ("tolerance") allowed Jews to obtain disproportionate influence over German politics, finance, and culture. They said that this Jewish influence was murdering the Real Germany, weakening their Christianity and sacred traditions.

That is, Germany of the 30's represents the modern archetype of "Borders, Language, Culture".

If you listen to how the Right talks about Mexicans, Muslims, Homosexuals, & Liberals, you will hear the exact same idea.

Here is what people do not understand: once the Right gets their next homeland attack (which will give them the political conditions to finally expel their growing list of internal enemies), you will see the violent side of "Borders, Language, Culture".

History is not about linear progress. It always repeats itself.

I surely hope you wrong about the next homeland attack. Because if it becomes a matter of violent government and being put against the walls, the far righties are outnumbered five to one. The far right has to stay within the law.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Remember Bush Sr.'s 1991 Iraq war? The one where we allied ourselves with Kuwait, and the Saudis?

speaking of alliances with Islam...

Which was also an alliance AGAINST islam. Remember the Islamic world basically split in half in who they supported. That was also 20 years ago (yikes, I was in 10th freaking grade then)

Muslims have been fighting amongst themselves for centuries. Not to the extent that Christians have fought amongst themselves, but still, they have done so.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

I have yet to see a lefty address the point of the OP.

Why do you guys do all you can to stick your thumb in the eye of Christianity, but will bend over and take it to defend Islam and apologize for it?

Well, Jack, I'm a Catholic. What am I specifically doing to stick a thumb in the eye of my own religion?

How is defending another religion's freedom to worship apologizing for it?

Does your religion call for the eradication of all other faiths and the destruction of the Constitution?