The Left's Unlikely Alliance with Islam

[ConHog]

You would have a point if that were true. However, it isn't true since there are mosques all over NY City and there are not protests at all the mosques in NY City. Now you're making stuff up. If you're a Christian then be honest about it. If you need a cause badly enough that you have to lie to create one then it's not a worthy cause in my estimation.

don't waste your time, he like all leftists just spout their talking points.

Hey, genius, arguing that it's only because it's close to ground zero that people oppose mosque building is a talking point.

And a lie, to boot.

Most sane people who oppose the mosque near ground zero ONLY oppose THAT mosque, and to deny that truth is to prove yourself a liar.

 

[daveman]

I read David Horowitz's book 'Unholy Alliance' awhile back and it really was fascinating. The Left around the world do seem to have a bizarre fascination with siding with Islam. Personally i believe it has to do with their irrational hate for Christians.

And for Jews, too.

 

[ConHog]

I read David Horowitz's book 'Unholy Alliance' awhile back and it really was fascinating. The Left around the world do seem to have a bizarre fascination with siding with Islam. Personally i believe it has to do with their irrational hate for Christians. They feel that an Islamic takeover would be very bad for Christianity hence it would be good for them. In reality,their philosophy is deeply flawed and childish. The reality is that Islamic teachings are far more harsh and intolerant towards Leftist beliefs than Christian teachings are. The Left is just so caught up in their frothing at the mouth hatred for Christians that they don't see this reality. Therefore they feel a need to to side with Islam. For the Left it's just all about hating those Christians at all cost. If that means siding with brutal terrorists than so be it. It really is incredibly bizarre. Check out the book 'Unholy Alliance.' I think you'll enjoy it.

It is quite amusing to see SOME of the people on this board who openly hate Christianity support Islam.

 

[rdean]

I read David Horowitz's book 'Unholy Alliance' awhile back and it really was fascinating. The Left around the world do seem to have a bizarre fascination with siding with Islam. Personally i believe it has to do with their irrational hate for Christians. They feel that an Islamic takeover would be very bad for Christianity hence it would be good for them. In reality,their philosophy is deeply flawed and childish. The reality is that Islamic teachings are far more harsh and intolerant towards Leftist beliefs than Christian teachings are. The Left is just so caught up in their frothing at the mouth hatred for Christians that they don't see this reality. Therefore they feel a need to to side with Islam. For the Left it's just all about hating those Christians at all cost. If that means siding with brutal terrorists than so be it. It really is incredibly bizarre. Check out the book 'Unholy Alliance.' I think you'll enjoy it.

It is quite amusing to see SOME of the people on this board who openly hate Christianity support Islam.

Can you name any?

 

[Londoner]

This article hits the nail right on the head in my estimation. What do you think?

Rest of the OP here: American Thinker: The Left's Unlikely Alliance with Islam

The religious Right is much closer to the values of traditional Islam than the secular Left, especially their shared hatred for homosexuals. As for the treatment of women, the Left (not the Right) supported the sexual revolution, as middle Americans cringed at feminist bra burners in the 60s.

Follow the money. The Right has been lobbied hard to keep America hooked on Arabian black crack.

In the late 70s, Carter and the Left started to move the world toward alternative energy and conservation; they called for a moonshot in the form of a slow decrease of oil consumption over the next 30 years, which decrease would not only allow America to save precious military dollars (used to stabilize the Gulf), but would also leave America less vulnerable to oil shocks. [The goal was not to get off oil or replace the combustion engine overnight (if ever); the goal wasn't even to get out of the Middle East completely; rather, the goal was to slowly increase conservation and alternative sources in order to decrease reliance on unstable regions]. Carter's point: Less oil = less dependence = less money going to terrorists.

Essentially, Carter did not want America to wake up one day in 2004 with $4 gas, trapped in an Iraqi-Afghanistan quagmire, attempting to stabilize something that could not be stabilized. He was trying to save the country from financial ruin.

Reagan and the Right, backed heavily by big oil, accused Carter of exaggerating problems so big brother could take over energy. Once elected, Reagan tore down the solar panels and reversed all of Carter's measures to decrease American dependence on the Middle East. Reagan increased support to Saudi Arabia, removed Iraq from the list of terrorist nations, and sold weapons to Iran -- he moved America much deeper into the terrorist orbit. Bush 41 & Howard Baker -- Sacred Cows of the GOP -- formed deep business partnerships with the Saudi Royals through things like the Carlye Group. Enron (Bush 43's largest contributor) was busy working with the Taliban to get oil through Afghanistan to India. This is to say nothing of Halliburton's (Chaney's) massive interest in the Middle Eastern oil market.

Any departure from middle east crude would destroy the people who currently run the GOP.

This OP proves only one thing. The Right has created a comprehensive information machine that uses wedge issues to distract people from underlying economic partnerships formed in order to ensure access to oil --partnerships which have made the most violent, radical parts of Islam stronger. The post-Nixon Right can be seen (in some ways) as a brilliant oil play. [Welcome to the travels of profit. Oil is the most profitable substance on earth: it is at the base of everything we do. Politicians like money] The last 30 years is the story of how oil profits entered the White House through Reagan and proceeded to build a vast infrastructure of electoral funding, money loops, and legislative/regulatory favors -- wrapped in a well funded information machine, used to distract the serfs with gay marriage and muslim evil-doers as they quietly propel the American lifestyle deeper into the terrorist petrol bosom.

The first electric car movement was killed for a reason. It was killed with every other attempt to decrease American dependence on terrorist nations. It was killed because Big Oil infiltrated America's greatest political party.

Attention Republicans: you've been lied to. You're just as dumb as the Left.

 

[ConHog]

I read David Horowitz's book 'Unholy Alliance' awhile back and it really was fascinating. The Left around the world do seem to have a bizarre fascination with siding with Islam. Personally i believe it has to do with their irrational hate for Christians. They feel that an Islamic takeover would be very bad for Christianity hence it would be good for them. In reality,their philosophy is deeply flawed and childish. The reality is that Islamic teachings are far more harsh and intolerant towards Leftist beliefs than Christian teachings are. The Left is just so caught up in their frothing at the mouth hatred for Christians that they don't see this reality. Therefore they feel a need to to side with Islam. For the Left it's just all about hating those Christians at all cost. If that means siding with brutal terrorists than so be it. It really is incredibly bizarre. Check out the book 'Unholy Alliance.' I think you'll enjoy it.

It is quite amusing to see SOME of the people on this board who openly hate Christianity support Islam.

Can you name any?

Sure, right off the top of my head . Blu - The dude has posted that America would be better off without Christians and then turned right around and supporter this mosque. Of course he's also the guy who wishes for LEOs who serve no knock warrants to have their heads blown off with shotguns, so I realize he isn't exactly sane, but still.

That's just one of many like minded individuals. We both know they exist.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

I read David Horowitz's book 'Unholy Alliance' awhile back and it really was fascinating. The Left around the world do seem to have a bizarre fascination with siding with Islam. Personally i believe it has to do with their irrational hate for Christians. They feel that an Islamic takeover would be very bad for Christianity hence it would be good for them. In reality,their philosophy is deeply flawed and childish. The reality is that Islamic teachings are far more harsh and intolerant towards Leftist beliefs than Christian teachings are. The Left is just so caught up in their frothing at the mouth hatred for Christians that they don't see this reality. Therefore they feel a need to to side with Islam. For the Left it's just all about hating those Christians at all cost. If that means siding with brutal terrorists than so be it. It really is incredibly bizarre. Check out the book 'Unholy Alliance.' I think you'll enjoy it.

It is quite amusing to see SOME of the people on this board who openly hate Christianity support Islam.

Yea i don't think it's so much about them supporting Islam though. For the Left it really is all about irrational hate for Christians more than it is about love for Muslims. They see anything the Muslims do to hurt Christianity as a victory for them as well. Obviously their philosophy is extremely warped and childish. Islamic teachings are anything but tolerant of Leftist beliefs. In fact Islamic teachings are quite harsh in punishing Leftist beliefs. They're far more harsh than Christian teachings. Leftists don't even understand this because they're too caught up in their irrational hate for Christians. Pretty stupid stuff if you ask me but we are talking about Leftists no? Read Horowitz's book 'Unholy Alliance' and you will better understand the Leftists and their siding with Islam stuff.

 

[rdean]

Evangelical wackos have declared war against Islam and screw the Constitution thank you very much.

Islamic fascists have declared war against the USA and wish to destroy the constitution. Thank God there are people with enough balls to stand up to defend this nation so asswipe morons like you can speak your limited mind freely.

Radical Islamics (RI) attack the US from Afghanistan.
Democrats want to go after them until they are dead.
Republicans let them go and invade Iraq instead.

Radical Islamics want the US to go bankrupt wasting it's money in Iraq.
Democrats tried to investigate theft in Iraq stopped every time by Republicans.
Republicans give ten of billions in no bid contracts and completely LOSE nearly 10 billion.

Islamics use US torture for recruitment.
Democrats want to stop US torture.
Republicans promote torture and help al Qaeda recruitment.

Radical Islamics wanted a foothold in Iraq.
Democrats said if you invade Iraq, you will let in al Qaeda.
Republicans let al Qaeda into Iraq.

Radical Islamics hate Christians.
Democrats wanted to bring Iraqi Christians here or protect them.
Bush/Republicans stood by while Iraqi Christians were slaughtered and did nothing.

Islamics want to show the world America is weak.
Democrat support a moderate who helped Bush against al Qaeda.
Republicans show the world America is intolerant of our own constitution and hates Islam.

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To an outside observer, it seems Republicans are following al Qaeda script one line at a time. In fact, until president Obama, it seemed as if Bush and the Republicans were OWNED by al Qaeda. Republicans even put in place a far right wing Islamic government in Iraq, a government that hates our guts. What could Bush and the Republicans have done to fuck things up more than what they did? March our soldiers into Baghdad naked? Give them blanks? Electrocute them? Take away their Arabic translators? Oh sorry, they already did two of those things. Maybe they didn't do the other two because it didn't occur to them?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Quite the irony.. the left finally finds a religion it likes....

A religion that tolerates no other religion, subjugates women, beheads, stones, amputates...

Perfect!!

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Quite the irony.. the left finally finds a religion it likes....

A religion that tolerates no other religion, subjugates women, beheads, stones, amputates...

Perfect!!

lol! Yea like i said earlier,for the Left it's all about their irrational hate for Christians. They see Islamic victories as being bad for Christians hence they see these victories as being victories for themselves as well. It really is warped and childish. Thanks for laugh Soggy.

 

[Londoner]

The religious Right is much closer to the values of traditional Islam than the secular Left, especially their shared hatred for homosexuals. As for the treatment of women, the Left (not the Right) supported the sexual revolution, as middle Americans cringed at feminist bra burners in the 60s.

Follow the money. The Right has been lobbied hard to keep America hooked on Arabian black crack.

In the late 70s, Carter and the Left started to move the world toward alternative energy and conservation; they called for a moonshot in the form of a slow decrease of oil consumption over the next 30 years, which decrease would not only allow America to save precious military dollars (used to stabilize the Gulf), but would also leave America less vulnerable to oil shocks. [The goal was not to get off oil or replace the combustion engine overnight (if ever); the goal wasn't even to get out of the Middle East completely; rather, the goal was to slowly increase conservation and alternative sources in order to decrease reliance on unstable regions]. Carter's point: Less oil = less dependence = less money going to terrorists.

Essentially, Carter did not want America to wake up one day in 2004 with $4 gas, trapped in an Iraqi-Afghanistan quagmire, attempting to stabilize something that could not be stabilized. He was trying to save the country from financial ruin.

Reagan and the Right, backed heavily by big oil, accused Carter of exaggerating problems so big brother could take over energy. Once elected, Reagan tore down the solar panels and reversed all of Carter's measures to decrease American dependence on the Middle East. Reagan increased support to Saudi Arabia, removed Iraq from the list of terrorist nations, and sold weapons to Iran -- he moved America much deeper into the terrorist orbit. Bush 41 & Howard Baker -- Sacred Cows of the GOP -- formed deep business partnerships with the Saudi Royals through things like the Carlye Group. Enron (Bush 43's largest contributor) was busy working with the Taliban to get oil through Afghanistan to India. This is to say nothing of Halliburton's (Chaney's) massive interest in the Middle Eastern oil market.

Any departure from middle east crude would harm the financial interests of the people who currently run the GOP.

This OP proves only one thing. The Right has created a comprehensive information machine that uses wedge issues to distract people from underlying energy partnerships --partnerships which have made the most violent, radical parts of Islam stronger. The post-Nixon Right can be seen (in some ways) as a brilliant oil play. [Welcome to the travels of profit into political pockets. Oil is the most profitable substance on earth: it is at the base of everything we do. Politicians like money] The last 30 years is the story of how oil profits entered the White House through Reagan and proceeded to build a vast infrastructure of electoral funding, money loops, and legislative/regulatory favors -- wrapped in a well funded information machine, used to distract the serfs with gay marriage and muslim evil-doers as dear leader quietly propels the American lifestyle deeper into the terrorist petrol bosom.

The first electric car movement was killed for a reason. It was killed with every other attempt to decrease American dependence on terrorist nations. It was killed because Big Oil infiltrated America's greatest political party.

Attention Republicans: you've been lied to. You're just as dumb as the Left.

Do people on the Right understand the oil partnerships many of their leaders have with Saudi Arabia? Do they understand the policies created by the Right to strengthen our dependence on terrorist nations?

 

[ConHog]

The religious Right is much closer to the values of traditional Islam than the secular Left, especially their shared hatred for homosexuals. As for the treatment of women, the Left (not the Right) supported the sexual revolution, as middle Americans cringed at feminist bra burners in the 60s.

Follow the money. The Right has been lobbied hard to keep America hooked on Arabian black crack.

In the late 70s, Carter and the Left started to move the world toward alternative energy and conservation; they called for a moonshot in the form of a slow decrease of oil consumption over the next 30 years, which decrease would not only allow America to save precious military dollars (used to stabilize the Gulf), but would also leave America less vulnerable to oil shocks. [The goal was not to get off oil or replace the combustion engine overnight (if ever); the goal wasn't even to get out of the Middle East completely; rather, the goal was to slowly increase conservation and alternative sources in order to decrease reliance on unstable regions]. Carter's point: Less oil = less dependence = less money going to terrorists.

Essentially, Carter did not want America to wake up one day in 2004 with $4 gas, trapped in an Iraqi-Afghanistan quagmire, attempting to stabilize something that could not be stabilized. He was trying to save the country from financial ruin.

Reagan and the Right, backed heavily by big oil, accused Carter of exaggerating problems so big brother could take over energy. Once elected, Reagan tore down the solar panels and reversed all of Carter's measures to decrease American dependence on the Middle East. Reagan increased support to Saudi Arabia, removed Iraq from the list of terrorist nations, and sold weapons to Iran -- he moved America much deeper into the terrorist orbit. Bush 41 & Howard Baker -- Sacred Cows of the GOP -- formed deep business partnerships with the Saudi Royals through things like the Carlye Group. Enron (Bush 43's largest contributor) was busy working with the Taliban to get oil through Afghanistan to India. This is to say nothing of Halliburton's (Chaney's) massive interest in the Middle Eastern oil market.

Any departure from middle east crude would destroy the people who currently run the GOP.

This OP proves only one thing. The Right has created a comprehensive information machine that uses wedge issues to distract people from underlying economic partnerships formed in order to ensure access to oil --partnerships which have made the most violent, radical parts of Islam stronger. The post-Nixon Right can be seen (in some ways) as a brilliant oil play. [Welcome to the travels of profit. Oil is the most profitable substance on earth: it is at the base of everything we do. Politicians like money] The last 30 years is the story of how oil profits entered the White House through Reagan and proceeded to build a vast infrastructure of electoral funding, money loops, and legislative/regulatory favors -- wrapped in a well funded information machine, used to distract the serfs with gay marriage and muslim evil-doers as they quietly propel the American lifestyle deeper into the terrorist petrol bosom.

The first electric car movement was killed for a reason. It was killed with every other attempt to decrease American dependence on terrorist nations. It was killed because Big Oil infiltrated America's greatest political party.

Attention Republicans: you've been lied to. You're just as dumb as the Left.

Do people on the Right understand the oil partnerships many of their leaders have with Saudi Arabia? Do they understand the policies created by the Right to strengthen our dependence on terrorist nations?

Do YOU understand that many of us understand that SA is the worst ally in the history of allies, and in fact we also wish our leaders would end relations with them?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Quite the irony.. the left finally finds a religion it likes....

A religion that tolerates no other religion, subjugates women, beheads, stones, amputates...

Perfect!!

2% of America is not religious. The left is as religious as the right. Red herring by the right, here.

 

[ConHog]

Quite the irony.. the left finally finds a religion it likes....

A religion that tolerates no other religion, subjugates women, beheads, stones, amputates...

Perfect!!

2% of America is not religious. The left is as religious as the right. Red herring by the right, here.

Sorry, but I've read too many posts by people, mostly on the left, claiming to be Christians to believe that everyone who claims to be religious actually is.

I would say that 60% of the country is religious, at best.

 

[daveman]

Do people on the Right understand the oil partnerships many of their leaders have with Saudi Arabia? Do they understand the policies created by the Right to strengthen our dependence on terrorist nations?

Do you understand that the policies of the Left...refusal to allow us to drill for our own oil, blocking construction of nuclear power plants...has given us no choice but to deal with the Saudis and other terror-supporting nations?

 

[rdean]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/130573-the-lefts-unlikely-alliance-with-islam-

Oh, and I forgot.

What has the right, with 8 years under Bush, done to defeat al Qaeda? If only they could name a single success or an accomplishment, then might have a very tenuous argument. But as it stands now.....

 

[daveman]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/130573-the-lefts-unlikely-alliance-with-islam-

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Try again, Mr. Incompetent.

Oh, and I forgot.

What has the right, with 8 years under Bush, done to defeat al Qaeda? If only they could name a single success or an accomplishment, then might have a very tenuous argument. But as it stands now.....

We've killed a whole shitload of them.

You're welcome.

 

[ConHog]

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Try again, Mr. Incompetent.

Oh, and I forgot.

What has the right, with 8 years under Bush, done to defeat al Qaeda? If only they could name a single success or an accomplishment, then might have a very tenuous argument. But as it stands now.....

We've killed a whole shitload of them.

You're welcome.

BUT BUT BUT they were all innocent Muslims.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Hate Christians but love Muslims. Oh the discombobulated & deranged Leftist mind. You gotta love em...Or do ya?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Most of the left is Christian, lib. What a loony remark.