The Left's False Narrative on Immigration

[DGS49]

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Here is an apparently well-thought out and neutral article on how massive integration is impacting the developed world, and how the various populations (native populations) view it.

But there is an elephant in the room that goes un-noticed. The U.S.Congress is the instrument that codifies U.S. policy, specifically on immigration. That is to say, we don't need to formulate a "new" policy on immigration; we already have one. It is contained in the volume of immigration laws that we do not enforce.

In effect, the article gives the Biden Administration a "pass" on its conspicuous non-enforcement (and phony enforcement) of our immigration laws because we are still pondering what posture we should take.

This is bullshit. We have firm and clear entrance policies which are being flouted, we have policies on the acceptance of "refugees," which align with international law, and they are being studiously ignored, and Left pretends there is nothing going on...no nefarious plan to flood the country with government dependent immigrants, 90% of whom will be voting Democrat citizens as soon as the Leftists can arrange it.

Don't be deceived. We HAVE immigration policies, and the Left has made a choice to ignore them. Such luminaries as Barry Soetoro, Bill Clinton, Harry Reid, and others have spoken publicly about the scourge of illegal immigration, but their part is silent now, blaming the surge on greedy capitalists who want a flood of low-cost workers. But they don't make policy. The Leftists do.

 

[candycorn]

We're still waiting on the check from Mexico to finish the wall.

 

[Moonglow]

We're still waiting on the check from Mexico to finish the wall.

And better healthcare, did you notice his link it goes to a Google Mail banner....

 

[Moonglow]

The Supreme Court begs to differ with what POTUS can do concerning immigration and what you claim.

 

[pknopp]

And better healthcare, did you notice his link it goes to a Google Mail banner....

"I got this in my e-mail today..............................."

But I will note the white flag in accepting "international law" over U.S. law.

 

[Yarddog]

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Here is an apparently well-thought out and neutral article on how massive integration is impacting the developed world, and how the various populations (native populations) view it.

But there is an elephant in the room that goes un-noticed. The U.S.Congress is the instrument that codifies U.S. policy, specifically on immigration. That is to say, we don't need to formulate a "new" policy on immigration; we already have one. It is contained in the volume of immigration laws that we do not enforce.

In effect, the article gives the Biden Administration a "pass" on its conspicuous non-enforcement (and phony enforcement) of our immigration laws because we are still pondering what posture we should take.

This is bullshit. We have firm and clear entrance policies which are being flouted, we have policies on the acceptance of "refugees," which align with international law, and they are being studiously ignored, and Left pretends there is nothing going on...no nefarious plan to flood the country with government dependent immigrants, 90% of whom will be voting Democrat citizens as soon as the Leftists can arrange it.

Don't be deceived. We HAVE immigration policies, and the Left has made a choice to ignore them. Such luminaries as Barry Soetoro, Bill Clinton, Harry Reid, and others have spoken publicly about the scourge of illegal immigration, but their part is silent now, blaming the surge on greedy capitalists who want a flood of low-cost workers. But they don't make policy. The Leftists do.

Democrats dont LIKE those laws though. They think they are unfair and racist but because those laws are actually founded on common sense.... they are forced to go around, over or under them, because they are unable to change them. FACT.

 

[Yarddog]

We're still waiting on the check from Mexico to finish the wall.

for years Democrats and Republicans alike had talked about and said that a wall on the border would be a good thing. How long did we have to wait for them to actually do something about it.... oh wait, yes you waited forever because they never did until a political outsider came along and tried to get done what political hacks only talk about.
At least Trump tried despite all the roadblocks thrown in his way.

 

[irosie91]

better idea----declare Mexico the 51 st state----screw up the star pattern

 

[candycorn]

for years Democrats and Republicans alike had talked about and said that a wall on the border would be a good thing. How long did we have to wait for them to actually do something about it.... oh wait, yes you waited forever because they never did until a political outsider came along and tried to get done what political hacks only talk about.
At least Trump tried despite all the roadblocks thrown in his way.

And 48 months into it...he built 45 miles of new wall.

A low-key approach where he didn't call an entire ethnicity "rapist" may have gotten more built.

 

[Yarddog]

And 48 months into it...he built 45 miles of new wall.

A low-key approach where he didn't call an entire ethnicity "rapist" may have gotten more built.

Well see you cherry picked that info. He had built 450 miles worth , but most of it replaced existing barrier that was not good enough .. there was even more material left on site and ready to be installed only the next administration left it to lay there in the desert.. wasting all that material.

Calling an entire ethnicity "rapist" was the leftist spin on a guy like Trump, who you know speaks bluntly and simply. Anyone with a brain knows what he meant. Why let just anyone cross our border when you dont know who they are? People come here to work but mixed in with them are criminals and gangs...and figure this.. a very large percentage of female migrants get raped on the southern side of the border. Why do you think that is? Its because the place is damn lawless and run by cartels. Inviting all that into our side of the border is reckless. But I know you guys couldnt see past your hatred for Trump to see a simple reality.

 

[candycorn]

Well see you cherry picked that info. He had built 450 miles worth , but most of it replaced existing barrier that was not good enough .. there was even more material left on site and ready to be installed only the next administration left it to lay there in the desert.. wasting all that material.

Calling an entire ethnicity "rapist" was the leftist spin on a guy like Trump, who you know speaks bluntly and simply. Anyone with a brain knows what he meant. Why let just anyone cross our border when you dont know who they are? People come here to work but mixed in with them are criminals and gangs...and figure this.. a very large percentage of female migrants get raped on the southern side of the border. Why do you think that is? Its because the place is damn lawless and run by cartels. Inviting all that into our side of the border is reckless. But I know you guys couldnt see past your hatred for Trump to see a simple reality.

No. It was 45 miles.

 

[Yarddog]

No. It was 45 miles.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built

 

[candycorn]

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built

45 miles.

According to your blob's own White House.

Remarks by President Trump at the 45th Mile of New Border Wall | Reynosa-McAllen, TX – The White House

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[Yarddog]

45 miles.

According to your blob's own White House.

Remarks by President Trump at the 45th Mile of New Border Wall | Reynosa-McAllen, TX – The White House

trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov

No... total wall was 450... most of it replaced existing wall.. It was still built. The fact that the 45 miles your talking about was built where there was no existing fence doesnt change the fact. Why are you being obstinate just to hang onto a point that is dead? 450 miles of wall was built! 45 of those miles was designated as "new wall". because none had existed before. Do I need to go and ask other posters to help explain this to you?

 

[candycorn]

No... total wall was 450... most of it replaced existing wall.. It was still built. The fact that the 45 miles your talking about was built where there was no existing fence doesnt change the fact. Why are you being obstinate just to hang onto a point that is dead? 450 miles of wall was built! 45 of those miles was designated as "new wall". because none had existed before. Do I need to go and ask other posters to help explain this to you?

There was 45 miles of new wall built. The entire undertaking was a momentous failure from every conceivable viewpoint.

 

[Yarddog]

There was 45 miles of new wall built. The entire undertaking was a momentous failure from every conceivable viewpoint.

There was 450 miles of wall built. What existed before needed replacing. It was not a failure. The failure was in the new administration not completing the work after the plans were all laid out. It takes time to actually complete a project like that. people come walking through the open gaps in the wall, but as you know, the Biden Admin wanted all these people to rush the border rather than enter in an orderly fashion.
The big failure is that the rush on the border makes it so much easier for Cartels to slip their drug mules past. The failure is people dying from Fentanyl as well as other things. Biden, Harris and Mayorkas have all cost many people their lives.

 

[candycorn]

There was 450 miles of wall built. What existed before needed replacing. It was not a failure. The failure was in the new administration not completing the work after the plans were all laid out. It takes time to actually complete a project like that. people come walking through the open gaps in the wall, but as you know, the Biden Admin wanted all these people to rush the border rather than enter in an orderly fashion.
The big failure is that the rush on the border makes it so much easier for Cartels to slip their drug mules past. The failure is people dying from Fentanyl as well as other things. Biden, Harris and Mayorkas have all cost many people their lives.

There was 45 miles of new wall built. You said so yourself.

He built less than 12 miles a year. Your blob was a failure by any metric.

 

[Yarddog]

There was 45 miles of new wall built. You said so yourself.

He built less than 12 miles a year. Your blob was a failure by any metric.

226 miles was built along the Arizona border, 100 miles were constructed along the New Mexico border, 77 along the California border and then 55 miles along the Texas border , this all in the article link I posted. Obviously you refuse to read it , thank you.

Do those numbers ad up to 45 miles? all the wall hat was built was NEW wall, but it was not designated as new wall because it was replacing an area where old barrier existed. You're arguing over semantics.