The left is going bonkers because Tennessee isnt going to allow Felons the right to vote.

[1srelluc]

What do societies do, when they find a rabid animal?

Well what you are supposed to do is heart shoot it so they can remove the head and test it.

 

[1srelluc]

Meh. The recidivism rate is over half.
I mean, cheating at a casino, evading taxes or something shouldnt mean you cant vote or own a gun. Thats bullshit of the highest order.

Depends on the state, it's about 1/3 in Virginia.

I can't speak for nobody but myself but I've managed to stay out of prison for near 70 years....Of course I worked in them for 20 of those years.

 

[Care4all]

That's fucked up. You can bet the Democrats will be working overtime to get them registered and send them absentee ballots. But that makes sense, considering Vermont's Senator is the Marxist Bernie Sanders.

Vermont Laws

From what I've read, most all states allowed prisoners to vote while incarcerated, until after the Civil War amendments giving blacks the right to vote....then the states starting in the SOUTH passed laws preventing felons from voting, so they could prevent mostly black men from voting, who occupied most of the prison population.

Vermont and Maine had less than 1% of their population as black citizens and never changed their laws....from what I've gathered..

 

[1srelluc]

From what I've read, most all states allowed prisoners to vote while incarcerated, until after the Civil War amendments giving blacks the right to vote....then the states starting in the SOUTH passed laws preventing felons from voting, so they could prevent mostly black men from voting, who occupied most of the prison population.

Vermont and Maine had less than 1% of their population as black citizens and never changed their laws....from what I've gathered..

That's pretty much it.....Whoo! We dodged a bullet there.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I live here in TN, have never committed or been charged with a felony against my fellow Tennesseans, and I do approve of it. I have no problem with convicted felons be 2nd class citizens. Just because they have finished their jail time, does not mean they now have better judgement, so no need to allow them to select sheriffs, district attorneys, or representatives the write our laws. They chose to be lawless.

Egad, i am agreeing with W6 again. The world must be ending...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Well what you are supposed to do is heart shoot it so they can remove the head and test it.

So why cant we do the same thing with criminals who have a rap sheet a mile long. If they cannot be corrected, they must be rabid...

 

[JLW]

After you have served your time and paid your debt to society, you should have your right to vote restored.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

After you have served your time and paid your debt to society, you should have your right to vote restored.

And the right to buy a weapon also, right?

 

[JLW]

And the right to buy a weapon also, right?

That is a good question. I think a staggered system may be the way to go. I am in favor of felons voting after they have served their time and after the probationary period is ended, however, with arms, I may allow an ex-felon to own arms after 10 years from the end of the probationary period. But then again it depends on the crime. If the felony is non-violent, I may be more lenient.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

That is a good question. I think a staggered system may be the way to go. I am in favor of felons voting after they have served their time and after the probationary period is ended, however, with arms, I may allow an ex-felon to own arms after 10 years from the end of the probationary period. But then again it depends on the crime. If the felony is non-violent, I may be more lenient.

If they are not responsible enough to own a firearm, then they shouldnt be allowed to vote.

 

[DudleySmith]

From what I've read, most all states allowed prisoners to vote while incarcerated, until after the Civil War amendments giving blacks the right to vote....then the states starting in the SOUTH passed laws preventing felons from voting, so they could prevent mostly black men from voting, who occupied most of the prison population.

Vermont and Maine had less than 1% of their population as black citizens and never changed their laws....from what I've gathered..

After the Civil War the South copied Illinois' and Indiana's Black Codes, the ones Lincoln voted for in the 1850's that banned blacks from owning property or immigrating to his state. lol This was easy to do since the Republicans ran the southern govts for years after the war. They probably dont teach real history in the schools where you warmed a seat like a good little mushroom for years.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If the Dems want felons to vote, the felons should also be allowed to legally own firearms.

A Free Nation Can't Exist If There Are Supreme Laws

The Rightists' sacred-cow Constitution can easily be interpreted to give felons voting rights and it will be so interpreted once Preppy Progressives, the Right's own prodigal sons, get control of SCROTUS again.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If you can rationalize away the HUMAN right to self defense, one can rationalize away those.

Criminals Are Enemies of the Human Race

 

[Rigby5]

MSN At one time more states didnt allow Felons to vote because when you dared to take the rights of others away in the harshest manner, then you lose your rights of being a citizen. Then the leftist started harping that if the Felon did his time, he/she/it should be allowed to vote since he paid his dues to society, but not the person/s he/she/it infringed upon. Well if that is the case and they should be absolved of the crime, since they did the time, they should also be able to go out and purchase a firearm, as owning a gun is less dangerous to society than installing the Marxists/ Democrat Fascists....

What say you?

That is ridiculous.
First of all, bouncing a check for more than $100 can be a felony, and it does not prove you harmed others.
Second is that all punishments have to be approved by the judge in the case, not the legislators.
Third is that denying felons to vote while taxing them is illegal taxation without representation.

 

[Rigby5]

Not a fan of the practice but in truth not that many former cons vote anyway in the states that allow it. That and the recidivism rate lands a full third back in prison within three years.

Hell, but it gets worse.....The leftists are also wanting convicts currently in prison to be able to vote.

Just say that there is a 1200 man unit out in a red hinterland county someplace....Convicts voting could easily sway a sparsely populated red county to a blue one.

Not only no but fuck no.

No one else gets a say over rights.
Rights exist inherently, and any infringement by anyone is inherently illegal.
If you allow curtailment of rights, then you have given the tools to the dictators to take over.

 

[Rigby5]

In many states part of the punishment is losing your right to vote for life.

Wrong.
Never once heard any judge ever say that, so its not legal.

 

[Rigby5]

I don't think you really have any idea what that would mean.....On a convict's discharge day he could stop by "guns-r-us" and go ruin your life before the van even returns to the unit....It would serve you right too.

The fact is prisons are where we warehouse the true animals of our society.....We let them out on their discharge day only because we have to.

The bankers, stock brokers, lawyers, and politicians are hundreds of times worse then those who simply are starving and decide to steal something.

 

[Rigby5]

A prog slave theory "It must first get really hot up in the Arctic Circle so all that ice can melt, then the cooling air from the ice, moves down into the hot areas to cool that area. Insanity, prog slaves are just fucking inane.

That is not entirely false.
The Arctic is 11 degrees warmer than normal.
It has to be in order for all that ice to melt that we see.
The cooling from the melting ice does not cause this arctic air to then blow further towards the equator, the extra heat energy does that.
The "polar vortex" get is energy to come further down, from global warming.
Normally the polar air is so cold it does not have any force to make it leave the poles.
Global warming gives is more energy to move much further.
So it is global warming that causes colder winter storms.

 

[Rigby5]

What do societies do, when they find a rabid animal?

A rabid animal is one that has been taken over by a harmful virus.
Felons most often just have not fit into the fake games we have forced on society.
Evolution selected for the independent, large, strong, aggressive, etc.
Now you have to learn how to appease corrupt bosses and do repetitive grunt work.

 

[Vastator]

MSN At one time more states didnt allow Felons to vote because when you dared to take the rights of others away in the harshest manner, then you lose your rights of being a citizen. Then the leftist started harping that if the Felon did his time, he/she/it should be allowed to vote since he paid his dues to society, but not the person/s he/she/it infringed upon. Well if that is the case and they should be absolved of the crime, since they did the time, they should also be able to go out and purchase a firearm, as owning a gun is less dangerous to society than installing the Marxists/ Democrat Fascists....

What say you?

I'm nothing even resembling a Leftist, yet... I've always been a proponent of the philosophy, that if you've done your time, you get welcomed back into the fold with all the rights acclimated with free men. The Felon exclusion practice is both what I consider unconstitutional, and very dangerous. Dangerous for a number of reasons. One being it's a perfect Trojan horse for neutering your political opposition, (show me the man, and I'll show you the crime.). Another being that to have masses of taxpayers, citizens not allowed to fully participate in the society in which they work, live, and fund through taxes, breeds resentment. Get enough people like that together behind a single cause, and it's a recipie for disaster. They have less to lose than everyone else...