The Incredible Shrinking Obama Deficit.

DEMOCRATS Cheer Obama’s Economy – Here is What They Don’t Want You to Know

Jim Hoft Oct 14th, 2015 7:42 am 30 Comments

Last night was the first Democrat-Socialist presidential primary debate in Las Vegas, Nevada.


The Democratic candidates cheered Barack Obama’s economy.

Here is what they don’t want you to know—
The Economy Is Worse Than Previously Thought

“Already The Worst On Record Since World War II,” The Most Recently Revised GDP Figures For 2015 Indicate The Economy Is “Weaker Than Previously Thought.” “The economic expansion—already the worst on record since World War II—is weaker than previously thought, according to newly revised data.” (Eric Morath, “The Worst Expansion Since World War II Was Even Weaker,” The Wall Street Journal, 7/30/15)

If The Nation’s Economy Were A Hospital Patient, “Its Doctors Might Want To Try Another Course Of Treatment.” “If the country were a hospital patient, its doctors might want to try another course of treatment. The recession’s impact continues to linger across the country, despite an improvement in a number of economic measures such as job creation, according to new data from the U.S. Census Bureau.” (Aimee Picchi, “America’s Quagmire: Stubborn Poverty And Slumping Income,” CBS, 9/16/15)

Labor Force Participation Remains Low As Wages Fail To Grow
“Shadow Unemployment” Has Put “Significant Pressure On Wages” Because The Unemployment Figure “Isn’t Really As Low As It Looks.” “And it turns out that they put significant downward pressure on wages, too. In other words, it isn’t a mystery why wages haven’t started to rise like they normally do when unemployment get this low, because unemployment isn’t really as low as it looks.” (Matt O’ Brien, “Excited About An Upcoming Raise? Don’t Be.” The Washington Post, 8/4/15)

  • The U.S. Currently Has The “Lowest Labor Force Participation Rate In A Generation.” “The unemployment rate has been declining steadily, but that has come in significant part due to the lowest labor force participation rate in a generation.” (Jeff Cox, US Created 142K Jobs Vs 203K Expected,” CNBC, 10/2/15)
Stagnant Incomes “Were A Problem In 2013,” Have “Remained So In 2014” And Evidence “So Far Suggests Nothing About That Is Changing In 2015.” “Stagnant incomes were a problem in 2013. They remained so in 2014. The evidence we have so far suggests nothing about that is changing in 2015. That is the reality shaping the backdrop to the 2016 presidential campaign, the Federal Reserve’s interest rate debates and the dinnertime table conversations about the state of the economies in families across the United States.” (Neil Irwin, “Why Americans Still Think The Economy Is Terrible,” The New York Times, 9/16/15)

Wage Inflation Is Around 2 Percent, The Same It Has Been Throughout The Entire Recovery. “It’s not anymore, though. Wage inflation is stuck at the same 2 percent it’s been the whole recovery, well below the 3.5 to 4 percent it would be in a normal economy—the implication being that this is not one.” (Matt O’ Brien, “Excited About An Upcoming Raise? Don’t Be.” The Washington Post, 8/4/15)

  • In A “Normal Economy” Wage Inflation Would Around 3.5 To 4 Percent. “It’s not anymore, though. Wage inflation is stuck at the same 2 percent it’s been the whole recovery, well below the 3.5 to 4 percent it would be in a normal economy—the implication being that this is not one.” (Matt O’ Brien, “Excited About An Upcoming Raise? Don’t Be.”The Washington Post, 8/4/15)
Clinton-Obama Policies Have Resulted In A Disappearing Middle-Class
The U.S. Economy “Has Yet To Recover The Jobs Lost During The Recession” In The Middle Third Income Bracket. “According to a study released Monday by Georgetown University’s Center on Education and the Workforce, the U.S. economy now has about 1 million more jobs in occupations that rank in the top third of income and 800,000 more in the bottom third. The middle third, however, has yet to recover the jobs lost during the recession.” (Josh Zumbrun, “Post Recession Job Growth Coming In High-Wage Positions,” The Wall Street Journal, 8/17/15)

  • Middle-Wage Occupations “Have Collapsed” Under Obama, With 900,000 Fewer Workers Since Before He Took Office. “Meanwhile, many middle-wage occupations, those with average earnings between $32,000 and $53,000, have collapsed. Jobs in the middle include traditionally blue-collar occupations such as truck drivers, welders and auto mechanics. There are 900,000 fewer workers in these occupations than there were before the recession, the report finds.” (Josh Zumbrun, “Post Recession Job Growth Coming In High-Wage Positions,” The Wall Street Journal, 8/17/15)
Middle-Class Jobs, That “Once Provided A Stable Living For Those With Less Education,” Have “Been Replaced With Low-Wage Work.” “But middle-skilled jobs, which once provided a stable living for those with less education, have been replaced with low-wage work. Occupations at the growing bottom earn less than $32,000 on average. Only one-third have health insurance and only one-quarter have retirement benefits.” (Josh Zumbrun, “Post Recession Job Growth Coming In High-Wage Positions,” The Wall Street Journal, 8/17/15)

Despite A Bleak Economic Reality, Clinton Insists Obama Deserves Praise For The Economy
Clinton Touts Obama’s Tenure As “Pretty Indisputable” Evidence That “Having A Democrat In White House Is Good For The Economy.” HILLARY CLINTON: “I think it’s pretty indisputable that having a democrat in the White House is good for our economy, better for our economy that the alternative. I think my husband understood that and produced. I think President Obama inherited a really big and dangerous mess and has, you know, been able to get us out of that ditch.” (CNN’s “Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer,” 9/17/15)

During A Recent Interview Clinton Praised Obama As Having “Been Able To Get Us Out Of That Ditch” When Referring To The Impact Of The Economic Recession. HILLARY CLINTON: “I think it’s pretty indisputable that having a democrat in the White House is good for our economy, better for our economy that the alternative. I think my husband understood that and produced. I think President Obama inherited a really big and dangerous mess and has, you know, been able to get us out of that ditch.” (CNN’s “Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer,” 9/17/15)

Clinton Has Said Obama “Doesn’t Get The Credit He Deserves” For His Work On The U.S. Economy. HILLARY CLINTON: “Ok, fast forward. President Obama gets elected. He inherits the worst financial crisis since The Great Depression, handed to him by his republican predecessor. We were losing 800,000 jobs a month and we were on the brink of something even worse happening. We could have fallen into a great depression, not just a great recession. So what does President Obama have to do? He had to fix the mess he inherited, which he did. He doesn’t get the credit he deserves from preventing us from going even deeper into that ditch in the economy. So, now we’re are back to standing, but we are not yet running.” (Hillary Clinton, Remarks At New Hampshire Town Hall, 9/18/15)

However, Clinton’s Advisers Are “Well Aware” That Clinton Cannot Base Her Campaign On “Good Feelings About The Obama Economy.” “Clinton’s advisers are well aware that they will not be able to base their campaign on good feelings about the Obama economy. Instead, they plan to highlight the president’s achievements – an unemployment rate of 5.3% and a modest recovery from the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression – while offering a package of policies aimed at addressing voters’ fears about the nation’s current direction.” (Ben White, “So-So Economy Dogs Hillary Clinton’s Campaign,” Politico, 7/30/15)

all of it here:
DEMOCRATS Cheer Obama's Economy - Here is What They Don't Want You to Know - The Gateway Pundit
Yup, thanks for the corrupt world depression, blocking reform for 6 years, stalling the recovery for 5 years of phony debt ceiling crises, dingbat dupe. Functional moron.
 
A great leader would find a way to cut the deficit without having to impose higher taxes.
Which leaders have done that so far?


Harding, Coolidge. Got the country out of a depression in 18 months at the same time. History remembers them as a failed administration but tells us the FDR whom ruled under a never ending depression and spending as a God.

Honestly, just watch as liberals claim Harding's roaring 20's of 10 years of awesome is why we had a "Great Depression" in witch he was not even alive during............. Think about that, just sit back and think about that.
Given the differences in the American economy of the 1st half of the 20th century, and now, would duplicating Harding and Coolidge's measures still do the trick?

If so, I'm curious what's preventing such a simple solution.
 
A great leader would find a way to cut the deficit without having to impose higher taxes.
Which leaders have done that so far?


Harding, Coolidge. Got the country out of a depression in 18 months at the same time. History remembers them as a failed administration but tells us the FDR whom ruled under a never ending depression and spending as a God.

Honestly, just watch as liberals claim Harding's roaring 20's of 10 years of awesome is why we had a "Great Depression" in witch he was not even alive during............. Think about that, just sit back and think about that.
Given the differences in the American economy of the 1st half of the 20th century, and now, would duplicating Harding and Coolidge's measures still do the trick?

If so, I'm curious what's preventing such a simple solution.

One thing applies to modern times. Tax rates. Ronald Reagan essentially ruined our total picture, mainly including the middle class and he borrowed $3 trillion from foreign banks to fund his action. 'Course you right wing pricks love tax cuts so much that you can't stand the thought of not getting one or two along. Look at the rates before Reagan when we actually had a middle class and then look at the mess after he screwed the pooch!

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..........................Total U S Debt...........................

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
 
Stop the wars and tax cuts = 80% of the debt.

Wouldn't have to touch a single red cent of infrastructure, science, r&d and education money!

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun4.html



Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits


We already know what economic policies work best for our country. Clinton knew that we had to cut spending and increase revenues. We had revenues of 20% of GDP and 4 straight surpluses (3 after vetoing the GOP's $700+ billion tax cut) .


Then something terrible happened, the Republicans gained complete control in 2001 and instead of sticking with what was working they decided that their ideology was more important. The debt has gone up $12+ trillion since then.
 
A great leader would find a way to cut the deficit without having to impose higher taxes.
Which leaders have done that so far?


Harding, Coolidge. Got the country out of a depression in 18 months at the same time. History remembers them as a failed administration but tells us the FDR whom ruled under a never ending depression and spending as a God.

Honestly, just watch as liberals claim Harding's roaring 20's of 10 years of awesome is why we had a "Great Depression" in witch he was not even alive during............. Think about that, just sit back and think about that.
Given the differences in the American economy of the 1st half of the 20th century, and now, would duplicating Harding and Coolidge's measures still do the trick?

If so, I'm curious what's preventing such a simple solution.


Such measure are simply deregulating and doing what not only caused the great depression but the great recession. Loserterianism is a mental illness.
 
Bush increased deficits to a new world record.

If he did he was surpassed by Obama. As mentioned, recorded, and reported, Obama set 'Monthly', 'Annual', and 'Total' US Deficit-Spending records, often surpassing his own records, on the way to adding over $6 Trillion in new debt in only 4 years:

"Under Obama, the deficits set records, from $1.4 trillion in Fiscal 2009, to $1.3 trillion in Fiscal 2010 and Fiscal 2011, to $1.1 trillion in Fiscal 2012. Three years after his pledge, Obama told an Atlanta TV station, "Well, we're not there because this recession turned out to be a lot deeper than any of us realized.

Conservative Republicans, always painted by journalists as some sort of wild-eyed fiscal "kamikazes," helped set a downward trend, thanks to budget caps that deficit-cutting Obama now calls "mindless austerity." As Terry Jeffrey of CNSNews.com reported last summer, when Obama took office on January 20, 2009, the total federal debt stood at $10.62 trillion. By the close of business on July 31, 2014, it had risen to $17.68 trillion — up $7.06 trillion.


That is more than the debt increased under all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Bill Clinton combined, and it is more debt than was accumulated in the first 227 years of this nation's existence — from 1776 through 2003.
"
Did you hear about the corrupt BOOOSH 2nd Great World Depression? Thank god the Dems got in immediately this time. DUH
 
A great leader would find a way to cut the deficit without having to impose higher taxes.
Which leaders have done that so far?


Harding, Coolidge. Got the country out of a depression in 18 months at the same time. History remembers them as a failed administration but tells us the FDR whom ruled under a never ending depression and spending as a God.

Honestly, just watch as liberals claim Harding's roaring 20's of 10 years of awesome is why we had a "Great Depression" in witch he was not even alive during............. Think about that, just sit back and think about that.
Given the differences in the American economy of the 1st half of the 20th century, and now, would duplicating Harding and Coolidge's measures still do the trick?

If so, I'm curious what's preventing such a simple solution.


lol.

Always an odd question. Spending didn't work under FDR, and it does not work now... So it only makes sense to say cutting spending and taxes worked then so it most def would not work now.

Someone as reading my reply is already mentally typing CUTTING TAXES DOES NOT WORK!!!!! Yes cutting taxes and increasing spending does not work, I agree.
 
The only reason the deficit is going down is because the Democrats don't have control of Congress anymore.

But that doesn't stop the lying asswipes from still taking the credit.
 
Yowza Yowza Yowza.

Watch it shrink. To Shrinky Dink levels..

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Deficit shrinks by $1 trillion in Obama era


The Obummbler has added more to the National Debt than all other Presidents combined in the prior 200 hundred plus year history of our Government.

Obama is a fucking idiot and incompetent.

Obama started the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, cut taxes on the extremely wealthy, started the department of homeland security, and put up a brand spanking new drug benefit? The things you learn here!
why don't you come to idaho and take over all the farms since your boy knows everything.
And why is it you don't?
 
The only reason the deficit is going down is because the Democrats don't have control of Congress anymore.

But that doesn't stop the lying asswipes from still taking the credit.

LMAO!!

Bud.....you've got it bad! Cooling down two hot wars didn't have anything to do with it?? That goddam McCain has been squawking, Bomb Bomb Bomb...Bomb Bomb Iran till his arse has puckered.
 
Yowza Yowza Yowza.

Watch it shrink. To Shrinky Dink levels..

View attachment 52689


Deficit shrinks by $1 trillion in Obama era

Yes Bush left a $1.4 trillion dollar deficit and Obama has whittle it down by two thirds. No easy task considering the destruction of the economy Bush and the Republicans also left the country in 2008.

It is almost a mirror image of Bill Clinton and how he took huge debt caused by Reagan and Bush Sr. and brought them down until there was a $300 billion dollar surplus left to Bush Jr. Which means Bush Jr. took a large surplus and turned it into a $1.4 trillion dollar deficit.

Conservatives just don't understand finances, the economy, or business.
 
Yowza Yowza Yowza.

Watch it shrink. To Shrinky Dink levels..

View attachment 52689


Deficit shrinks by $1 trillion in Obama era

Yes Bush left a $1.4 trillion dollar deficit and Obama has whittle it down by two thirds. No easy task considering the destruction of the economy Bush and the Republicans also left the country in 2008.

It is almost a mirror image of Bill Clinton and how he took huge debt caused by Reagan and Bush Sr. and brought them down until there was a $300 billion dollar surplus left to Bush Jr. Which means Bush Jr. took a large surplus and turned it into a $1.4 trillion dollar deficit.

Conservatives just don't understand finances, the economy, or business.

I'm not sure they don't understand what they're doing. I'm convinced that they want it all even if they bankrupt the country while they're getting it.
 
A great leader would find a way to cut the deficit without having to impose higher taxes.
Which leaders have done that so far?


Harding, Coolidge. Got the country out of a depression in 18 months at the same time. History remembers them as a failed administration but tells us the FDR whom ruled under a never ending depression and spending as a God.

Honestly, just watch as liberals claim Harding's roaring 20's of 10 years of awesome is why we had a "Great Depression" in witch he was not even alive during............. Think about that, just sit back and think about that.
Given the differences in the American economy of the 1st half of the 20th century, and now, would duplicating Harding and Coolidge's measures still do the trick?

If so, I'm curious what's preventing such a simple solution.

One thing applies to modern times. Tax rates. Ronald Reagan essentially ruined our total picture, mainly including the middle class and he borrowed $3 trillion from foreign banks to fund his action. 'Course you right wing pricks love tax cuts so much that you can't stand the thought of not getting one or two along. Look at the rates before Reagan when we actually had a middle class and then look at the mess after he screwed the pooch!

6a00d83451c45669e201675ecf1529970b-550wi


..........................Total U S Debt...........................

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
First, thanks for your informative response.

Second, I've not been called a right wing prick on this site till now. I think many of the right wing pricks on this site would be insulted by the idea that Toxicmedia is one of them.

At any rate...I'm admittedly an economic novice at best, so if my questions reflect that I apologize.

It occurs to me that comparing how easy it was for the middle class to thrive between 1950-1980, bears little on what it takes for the middle class to even exist in today's global employment marketplace.

That must figure into this.....right?
 
A great leader would find a way to cut the deficit without having to impose higher taxes.
Which leaders have done that so far?


Harding, Coolidge. Got the country out of a depression in 18 months at the same time. History remembers them as a failed administration but tells us the FDR whom ruled under a never ending depression and spending as a God.

Honestly, just watch as liberals claim Harding's roaring 20's of 10 years of awesome is why we had a "Great Depression" in witch he was not even alive during............. Think about that, just sit back and think about that.
Given the differences in the American economy of the 1st half of the 20th century, and now, would duplicating Harding and Coolidge's measures still do the trick?

If so, I'm curious what's preventing such a simple solution.


lol.

Always an odd question. Spending didn't work under FDR, and it does not work now... So it only makes sense to say cutting spending and taxes worked then so it most def would not work now.

Someone as reading my reply is already mentally typing CUTTING TAXES DOES NOT WORK!!!!! Yes cutting taxes and increasing spending does not work, I agree.
I find myself lost in the mixed irony here. But thanks.
 
A great leader would find a way to cut the deficit without having to impose higher taxes.
Which leaders have done that so far?


Harding, Coolidge. Got the country out of a depression in 18 months at the same time. History remembers them as a failed administration but tells us the FDR whom ruled under a never ending depression and spending as a God.

Honestly, just watch as liberals claim Harding's roaring 20's of 10 years of awesome is why we had a "Great Depression" in witch he was not even alive during............. Think about that, just sit back and think about that.
Given the differences in the American economy of the 1st half of the 20th century, and now, would duplicating Harding and Coolidge's measures still do the trick?

If so, I'm curious what's preventing such a simple solution.

One thing applies to modern times. Tax rates. Ronald Reagan essentially ruined our total picture, mainly including the middle class and he borrowed $3 trillion from foreign banks to fund his action. 'Course you right wing pricks love tax cuts so much that you can't stand the thought of not getting one or two along. Look at the rates before Reagan when we actually had a middle class and then look at the mess after he screwed the pooch!

6a00d83451c45669e201675ecf1529970b-550wi


..........................Total U S Debt...........................

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
First, thanks for your informative response.

Second, I've not been called a right wing prick on this site till now. I think many of the right wing pricks on this site would be insulted by the idea that Toxicmedia is one of them.

At any rate...I'm admittedly an economic novice at best, so if my questions reflect that I apologize.

It occurs to me that comparing how easy it was for the middle class to thrive between 1950-1980, bears little on what it takes for the middle class to even exist in today's global employment marketplace.

That must figure into this.....right?

It does...that's a fact. Now, a few cold, hard facts which constitute most of the problem. In the 40,s...50's a corporate executive made about 12-15 times what a plumber or electrician earned. The executive earned $80,000-$100,000 per year and a craftsman earned $6,000-$7,000. By the 70,s that factor had grown to 100 times as much. In 2012 official surveys showed CEO's earning over 500 times as much as an average worker:

Solution...pay workers for the work they do plus good benefits and the money they spend(essentially all of it) will whip our economy into a frenzy such as the world has never known. We need a minimum wage of $15-$20 per hour so that everybody can enjoy life.....not just those at the top.

When Ronald Reagan slashed tax rates for the wealthy and fired the PATCO union the die was cast. Our middle class has done nothing but lose ground ever since that:

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A so called "shrinking" deficit means nothing, if there is such an large debt it can't be repaid.

Just like putting bandaids on broken arm...
 
A so called "shrinking" deficit means nothing, if there is such an large debt it can't be repaid.

Just like putting bandaids on broken arm...


Bull Shit. Bill Clinton assumed a debt of:
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38. This is the date of the end of GHW Bush's last budget. Government budgets work by fiscal years and they begin on Oct. 1st of the budget year and end on Sept.30 of the next year.

Clinton raised tax rates while he still had a Democrat majority and when he left office the debt had grown $1.3 trillion but in FY's 1999, 2000 his administration bought back nearly $400,000,000,000 of our debt. Clinton left surpluses in the offing to continue to a completely paid off national debt. Then the ignoramus from TX took over, immediately cut tax rates again, not once but twice, 2001 and 2003. He used reconciliation to block Democrat opposition then doubled the debt to nearly $12 trillion. It's the tax rates...as sorry as those with the big bucks are to hear it this nation thrives when everyone is being treated fairly and some of the wealth is spread around not just funneled to the top.

When the president took over...the annual interest on the national debt approached the same figure as the defense budget. These foreign banks like to see their interest payments paid regularly and on time.
 
A so called "shrinking" deficit means nothing, if there is such an large debt it can't be repaid.

Just like putting bandaids on broken arm...


Bull Shit. Bill Clinton assumed a debt of:
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38. This is the date of the end of GHW Bush's last budget. Government budgets work by fiscal years and they begin on Oct. 1st of the budget year and end on Sept.30 of the next year.

Clinton raised tax rates while he still had a Democrat majority and when he left office the debt had grown $1.3 trillion but in FY's 1999, 2000 his administration bought back nearly $400,000,000,000 of our debt. Clinton left surpluses in the offing to continue to a completely paid off national debt. Then the ignoramus from TX took over, immediately cut tax rates again, not once but twice, 2001 and 2003. He used reconciliation to block Democrat opposition then doubled the debt to nearly $12 trillion. It's the tax rates...as sorry as those with the big bucks are to hear it this nation thrives when everyone is being treated fairly and some of the wealth is spread around not just funneled to the top.

When the president took over...the annual interest on the national debt approached the same figure as the defense budget. These foreign banks like to see their interest payments paid regularly and on time.

Debt is debt... Nothing can be done when starting out in a hole.
 

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