The FBI's fractured fairytale

[Care4all]

sigh....

1-The FBI notified the Clinton Campaign IT mgr in late 2015 that Russian operatives were trying to access their files... the IT manager did not heed to their warnings....the FBI cyber division was aware of the Russian hackers and notified the campaign, BEFORE the campaign / DNC emails were hacked, that someone was trying to hack them.

2-Papadopolous in March or April of 2016 was told by a Russian operative that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, thousands of campaign emails. This was 3 months BEFORE Guccifer claimed he got the hacked emails, and this techie called Forensicator intentionally or mistakenly used what transmitted to/from Guccifer on July 5th, for his analysis....Guccifer was a third party to try to hide where the hacks originated.

3- The FBI received a copy of the server, along with CrowdStrike's analysis....which was good enough, coupled with the information the FBI had gathered that they tried to warn the campaign IT mgr about

4- In addition to this, cyber security is a doggy dog world....competition is steep....the cyber firms often cut each other's throats in policing one another... 5 competitive cyber security firms agreed with crowd strike's analysis based on their own information they had gathered on it.

When Papadopolous was told by somebody that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, how do you know if it was thousands of campaign emails? How do you know it wasn't some of those 30,000+ emails that might've been hacked from that unsecured server she had in her basement while she was SoS? Guccifer's hacked emails were not from the DNC, they were from Hillary's unsecured server years before.

we know that the Clinton server was not hacked, the FBI went through it with a fine tooth comb....fbi stated it was not hacked... if she had used the State Dept system, we know that State.gov gets hacked over 40,000 attempt's and infiltrations a year.... ironically, her unknown server email, might have actually protected us all.....

I do not believe this is true. I'll need to see the link where the FBI stated that her unsecured server was not hacked. After she cleaned it with a rag, bleached it, and beat the hell out of it with a hammer, they would know that? And to say that her unsecured server was unknown? BULLSHIT. Guccifer knew, and you can bet your ass a whole lot of other people knew too, and most of them are not our friends. And then to say that unprotected server might actually have protected us all from hacking? ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT! We know that attempts to hack the US State Dept and other federal agencies probably number in the thousands, but that doesn't mean they were successful.

The FBI said they found no evidence that her server was hacked.... I suppose it could have been, without them being able to tell, if they had real expert hackers.

However, it has been 6 years since she used that server, and 6 years since she has been secretary of State, and if someone had hacked her server and gotten her emails, WHY HAVEN'T THEY SHOWED UP??? Why didn't they leak during the campaign and the year and a half since?


If Trump moves to prosecute Clinton, what's known on emails?

Comey noted in his statement that there was no "direct evidence" that Clinton’s servers had been hacked...

 

[task0778]

Follow up to #80:

Hackers really did try getting into Hillary Clinton’s unsecured "homebrew" server
The biggest concern the FBI report keeps coming back to is whether someone or some foreign government was able to hack into, and steal, the emails Clinton was sending with other members of the state department.
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While secretary of state, Clinton exclusively used a private email account hosted on a private email server installed at her family’s home in Westchester, New York. And at least 100 of the 30,000 emails Clinton turned over to the state department have turned out to have contained classified information at the time they were sent or received; seven of her email chains had the "top secret" designation.
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Those two facts — that Clinton’s email server was unsecured and that she, knowingly or not, exchanged classified information — have long raised the possibility that Clinton gave hackers an opening to go after state secrets.
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The FBI report makes clear that many at least tried. The bureau produced several pages of evidence detailing its attempts to figure out if Clinton’s server was ultimately breached.
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They note a slew of reasons to be concerned:
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The FBI says there were essentially no encryption safeguards on the private email server the Clintons had set up in their basement (also known as the "Pagliano Server").
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(Back when news of Clinton’s "homebrew server" surfaced, the campaign told Vox’s Timothy Lee that her staff "absolutely" took security measures to safeguard against foreign attackers. But the new FBI report contradicts that narrative, noting that the Pagliano Server did not use key security protections like two-factor authentication.)

The private server had to be shut down repeatedly because of attacks from someone apparently trying to hack into it.
Some unnamed "hostile foreign actors" were able to break into the personal email accounts of Clinton’s close aides, obtaining hundreds of emails exchanged with her personal account.
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The Clinton family’s private server was hacked successfully at least once by an unknown person using a service called "Tor." The hacker using "Tor" was only confirmed to have broken into the emails of an aide to Bill Clinton (the FBI doesn’t say if Hillary Clinton’s emails were ever hacked by this person).

The FBI report on Hillary Clinton’s private email server, explained

We do know it got hacked at least once. If you think that was the only time, then I have a bridge in New Jersey that has a lovely view of New York. Cheap.

 

[Care4all]

BULLSHIT! We know that attempts to hack the US State Dept and other federal agencies probably number in the thousands, but that doesn't mean they were successful.

it was breached and is continually breached

State Department's unclassified email systems hacked

 

[task0778]

BULLSHIT! We know that attempts to hack the US State Dept and other federal agencies probably number in the thousands, but that doesn't mean they were successful.

it was breached and is continually breached

State Department's unclassified email systems hacked

Okay, so the State Dept servers were hacked. That does not mean that Clinton was right to use an unsecured server to send and receive official gov't communications, much less classified data. For that alone, she should have been indicted IMHO. Other people have gone to prison for mishandling classified data, which she definitely did.

 

[westwall]

sigh....

1-The FBI notified the Clinton Campaign IT mgr in late 2015 that Russian operatives were trying to access their files... the IT manager did not heed to their warnings....the FBI cyber division was aware of the Russian hackers and notified the campaign, BEFORE the campaign / DNC emails were hacked, that someone was trying to hack them.

2-Papadopolous in March or April of 2016 was told by a Russian operative that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, thousands of campaign emails. This was 3 months BEFORE Guccifer claimed he got the hacked emails, and this techie called Forensicator intentionally or mistakenly used what transmitted to/from Guccifer on July 5th, for his analysis....Guccifer was a third party to try to hide where the hacks originated.

3- The FBI received a copy of the server, along with CrowdStrike's analysis....which was good enough, coupled with the information the FBI had gathered that they tried to warn the campaign IT mgr about

4- In addition to this, cyber security is a doggy dog world....competition is steep....the cyber firms often cut each other's throats in policing one another... 5 competitive cyber security firms agreed with crowd strike's analysis based on their own information they had gathered on it.

When Papadopolous was told by somebody that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, how do you know if it was thousands of campaign emails? How do you know it wasn't some of those 30,000+ emails that might've been hacked from that unsecured server she had in her basement while she was SoS? Guccifer's hacked emails were not from the DNC, they were from Hillary's unsecured server years before.

we know that the Clinton server was not hacked, the FBI went through it with a fine tooth comb....fbi stated it was not hacked... if she had used the State Dept system, we know that State.gov gets hacked over 40,000 attempt's and infiltrations a year.... ironically, her unknown server email, might have actually protected us all.....

That is not what the computer experts say. Nor the FBI for that matter...

Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say


“Reading between the lines and following Comey’s logic, it does sound as if the F.B.I. believes a compromise of Clinton’s email is more likely than not,” said Adam Segal, the author of “Hacked World Order,” who studies cyberissues at the Council on Foreign Relations. “Sophisticated attackers would have known of the existence of the account, would have targeted it and would not have been seen.”

Mr. Comey couched his concern on Tuesday by repeating the intelligence community’s favorite phrase — “we assess” — four times, but ultimately reached no hard-and-fast conclusion. “We assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account,” he said.


Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say

 

[Care4all]

sigh....

1-The FBI notified the Clinton Campaign IT mgr in late 2015 that Russian operatives were trying to access their files... the IT manager did not heed to their warnings....the FBI cyber division was aware of the Russian hackers and notified the campaign, BEFORE the campaign / DNC emails were hacked, that someone was trying to hack them.

2-Papadopolous in March or April of 2016 was told by a Russian operative that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, thousands of campaign emails. This was 3 months BEFORE Guccifer claimed he got the hacked emails, and this techie called Forensicator intentionally or mistakenly used what transmitted to/from Guccifer on July 5th, for his analysis....Guccifer was a third party to try to hide where the hacks originated.

3- The FBI received a copy of the server, along with CrowdStrike's analysis....which was good enough, coupled with the information the FBI had gathered that they tried to warn the campaign IT mgr about

4- In addition to this, cyber security is a doggy dog world....competition is steep....the cyber firms often cut each other's throats in policing one another... 5 competitive cyber security firms agreed with crowd strike's analysis based on their own information they had gathered on it.

When Papadopolous was told by somebody that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, how do you know if it was thousands of campaign emails? How do you know it wasn't some of those 30,000+ emails that might've been hacked from that unsecured server she had in her basement while she was SoS? Guccifer's hacked emails were not from the DNC, they were from Hillary's unsecured server years before.

we know that the Clinton server was not hacked, the FBI went through it with a fine tooth comb....fbi stated it was not hacked... if she had used the State Dept system, we know that State.gov gets hacked over 40,000 attempt's and infiltrations a year.... ironically, her unknown server email, might have actually protected us all.....

That is not what the computer experts say. Nor the FBI for that matter...

Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say


“Reading between the lines and following Comey’s logic, it does sound as if the F.B.I. believes a compromise of Clinton’s email is more likely than not,” said Adam Segal, the author of “Hacked World Order,” who studies cyberissues at the Council on Foreign Relations. “Sophisticated attackers would have known of the existence of the account, would have targeted it and would not have been seen.”

Mr. Comey couched his concern on Tuesday by repeating the intelligence community’s favorite phrase — “we assess” — four times, but ultimately reached no hard-and-fast conclusion. “We assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account,” he said.


Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say

Thanks! but a couple of things.....this op was pure speculation and written right after, within days of Comey's announcement, the person in the op is simply guessing, and most importantly his guessing all lead to him trying to sell his book....

At this point, all evidence leads to her server NOT being hacked, as the FBI initially thought....

The main reason I believe this is because the emails have not shown up anywhere on the net.... no wikileaks, the Russians didn't provide them to Trump, even when he begged them to turn them over to the press and they would be greatly rewarded.....

So, more than likely, her email server was not breached....her emails were not hacked and stolen.

BUT, when she traveled and used her blackberry, in countries like Russia or China, they were probably reading every word she typed or said, which was part of her being careless.....that comey mentioned.

 

[westwall]

sigh....

1-The FBI notified the Clinton Campaign IT mgr in late 2015 that Russian operatives were trying to access their files... the IT manager did not heed to their warnings....the FBI cyber division was aware of the Russian hackers and notified the campaign, BEFORE the campaign / DNC emails were hacked, that someone was trying to hack them.

2-Papadopolous in March or April of 2016 was told by a Russian operative that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, thousands of campaign emails. This was 3 months BEFORE Guccifer claimed he got the hacked emails, and this techie called Forensicator intentionally or mistakenly used what transmitted to/from Guccifer on July 5th, for his analysis....Guccifer was a third party to try to hide where the hacks originated.

3- The FBI received a copy of the server, along with CrowdStrike's analysis....which was good enough, coupled with the information the FBI had gathered that they tried to warn the campaign IT mgr about

4- In addition to this, cyber security is a doggy dog world....competition is steep....the cyber firms often cut each other's throats in policing one another... 5 competitive cyber security firms agreed with crowd strike's analysis based on their own information they had gathered on it.

When Papadopolous was told by somebody that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, how do you know if it was thousands of campaign emails? How do you know it wasn't some of those 30,000+ emails that might've been hacked from that unsecured server she had in her basement while she was SoS? Guccifer's hacked emails were not from the DNC, they were from Hillary's unsecured server years before.

we know that the Clinton server was not hacked, the FBI went through it with a fine tooth comb....fbi stated it was not hacked... if she had used the State Dept system, we know that State.gov gets hacked over 40,000 attempt's and infiltrations a year.... ironically, her unknown server email, might have actually protected us all.....

That is not what the computer experts say. Nor the FBI for that matter...

Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say


“Reading between the lines and following Comey’s logic, it does sound as if the F.B.I. believes a compromise of Clinton’s email is more likely than not,” said Adam Segal, the author of “Hacked World Order,” who studies cyberissues at the Council on Foreign Relations. “Sophisticated attackers would have known of the existence of the account, would have targeted it and would not have been seen.”

Mr. Comey couched his concern on Tuesday by repeating the intelligence community’s favorite phrase — “we assess” — four times, but ultimately reached no hard-and-fast conclusion. “We assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account,” he said.


Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say

Thanks! but a couple of things.....this op was pure speculation and written right after, within days of Comey's announcement, the person in the op is simply guessing, and most importantly his guessing all lead to him trying to sell his book....

At this point, all evidence leads to her server NOT being hacked, as the FBI initially thought....

The main reason I believe this is because the emails have not shown up anywhere on the net.... no wikileaks, the Russians didn't provide them to Trump, even when he begged them to turn them over to the press and they would be greatly rewarded.....

So, more than likely, her email server was not breached....her emails were not hacked and stolen.

BUT, when she traveled and used her blackberry, in countries like Russia or China, they were probably reading every word she typed or said, which was part of her being careless.....that comey mentioned.

Wrong. All evidence leads to it BEING hacked. She had no security on it to speak of. The belief that a State actor couldn't hack a simple firewall (which I don't think she even had) is beyond belief. Talented hackers can get in and out of a simple system, like hers, and leave no evidence. Thus you must ASSUME that it was done. The only way you can assume it was not done, is if they had significant security protocols, and she had none.

 

[task0778]

sigh....

1-The FBI notified the Clinton Campaign IT mgr in late 2015 that Russian operatives were trying to access their files... the IT manager did not heed to their warnings....the FBI cyber division was aware of the Russian hackers and notified the campaign, BEFORE the campaign / DNC emails were hacked, that someone was trying to hack them.

2-Papadopolous in March or April of 2016 was told by a Russian operative that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, thousands of campaign emails. This was 3 months BEFORE Guccifer claimed he got the hacked emails, and this techie called Forensicator intentionally or mistakenly used what transmitted to/from Guccifer on July 5th, for his analysis....Guccifer was a third party to try to hide where the hacks originated.

3- The FBI received a copy of the server, along with CrowdStrike's analysis....which was good enough, coupled with the information the FBI had gathered that they tried to warn the campaign IT mgr about

4- In addition to this, cyber security is a doggy dog world....competition is steep....the cyber firms often cut each other's throats in policing one another... 5 competitive cyber security firms agreed with crowd strike's analysis based on their own information they had gathered on it.

When Papadopolous was told by somebody that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, how do you know if it was thousands of campaign emails? How do you know it wasn't some of those 30,000+ emails that might've been hacked from that unsecured server she had in her basement while she was SoS? Guccifer's hacked emails were not from the DNC, they were from Hillary's unsecured server years before.

we know that the Clinton server was not hacked, the FBI went through it with a fine tooth comb....fbi stated it was not hacked... if she had used the State Dept system, we know that State.gov gets hacked over 40,000 attempt's and infiltrations a year.... ironically, her unknown server email, might have actually protected us all.....

That is not what the computer experts say. Nor the FBI for that matter...

Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say


“Reading between the lines and following Comey’s logic, it does sound as if the F.B.I. believes a compromise of Clinton’s email is more likely than not,” said Adam Segal, the author of “Hacked World Order,” who studies cyberissues at the Council on Foreign Relations. “Sophisticated attackers would have known of the existence of the account, would have targeted it and would not have been seen.”

Mr. Comey couched his concern on Tuesday by repeating the intelligence community’s favorite phrase — “we assess” — four times, but ultimately reached no hard-and-fast conclusion. “We assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account,” he said.


Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say

Thanks! but a couple of things.....this op was pure speculation and written right after, within days of Comey's announcement, the person in the op is simply guessing, and most importantly his guessing all lead to him trying to sell his book....

At this point, all evidence leads to her server NOT being hacked, as the FBI initially thought....

The main reason I believe this is because the emails have not shown up anywhere on the net.... no wikileaks, the Russians didn't provide them to Trump, even when he begged them to turn them over to the press and they would be greatly rewarded.....

So, more than likely, her email server was not breached....her emails were not hacked and stolen.

BUT, when she traveled and used her blackberry, in countries like Russia or China, they were probably reading every word she typed or said, which was part of her being careless.....that comey mentioned.

Just because those emails have not surfaced in the public arena does not mean they weren't hacked. Maybe even now the Clintons are paying blackmail money to keep somebody silent. Or maybe the Russians or Chinese or whoever else has them but is holding them for leverage in case Chelsea ever runs for office and gets elected. I wouldn't say any of this is likely, but still possible. We already know that server was successfully hacked at least once; see my post #82.

LOL, so Trump begged the Russians to release those emails? Where do you come up with this stuff? Can't wait to see the link you're going to provide that says that.

 

[kwc57]

sigh....

1-The FBI notified the Clinton Campaign IT mgr in late 2015 that Russian operatives were trying to access their files... the IT manager did not heed to their warnings....the FBI cyber division was aware of the Russian hackers and notified the campaign, BEFORE the campaign / DNC emails were hacked, that someone was trying to hack them.

2-Papadopolous in March or April of 2016 was told by a Russian operative that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, thousands of campaign emails. This was 3 months BEFORE Guccifer claimed he got the hacked emails, and this techie called Forensicator intentionally or mistakenly used what transmitted to/from Guccifer on July 5th, for his analysis....Guccifer was a third party to try to hide where the hacks originated.

3- The FBI received a copy of the server, along with CrowdStrike's analysis....which was good enough, coupled with the information the FBI had gathered that they tried to warn the campaign IT mgr about

4- In addition to this, cyber security is a doggy dog world....competition is steep....the cyber firms often cut each other's throats in policing one another... 5 competitive cyber security firms agreed with crowd strike's analysis based on their own information they had gathered on it.

When Papadopolous was told by somebody that the Russians had dirt on Hillary, how do you know if it was thousands of campaign emails? How do you know it wasn't some of those 30,000+ emails that might've been hacked from that unsecured server she had in her basement while she was SoS? Guccifer's hacked emails were not from the DNC, they were from Hillary's unsecured server years before.

we know that the Clinton server was not hacked, the FBI went through it with a fine tooth comb....fbi stated it was not hacked... if she had used the State Dept system, we know that State.gov gets hacked over 40,000 attempt's and infiltrations a year.... ironically, her unknown server email, might have actually protected us all.....

That is not what the computer experts say. Nor the FBI for that matter...

Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say


“Reading between the lines and following Comey’s logic, it does sound as if the F.B.I. believes a compromise of Clinton’s email is more likely than not,” said Adam Segal, the author of “Hacked World Order,” who studies cyberissues at the Council on Foreign Relations. “Sophisticated attackers would have known of the existence of the account, would have targeted it and would not have been seen.”

Mr. Comey couched his concern on Tuesday by repeating the intelligence community’s favorite phrase — “we assess” — four times, but ultimately reached no hard-and-fast conclusion. “We assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account,” he said.


Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say

Thanks! but a couple of things.....this op was pure speculation and written right after, within days of Comey's announcement, the person in the op is simply guessing, and most importantly his guessing all lead to him trying to sell his book....

At this point, all evidence leads to her server NOT being hacked, as the FBI initially thought....

The main reason I believe this is because the emails have not shown up anywhere on the net.... no wikileaks, the Russians didn't provide them to Trump, even when he begged them to turn them over to the press and they would be greatly rewarded.....

So, more than likely, her email server was not breached....her emails were not hacked and stolen.

BUT, when she traveled and used her blackberry, in countries like Russia or China, they were probably reading every word she typed or said, which was part of her being careless.....that comey mentioned.

"the Russians didn't provide them to Trump, even when he begged them to turn them over to the press and they would be greatly rewarded....."

Oh good grief, how can people who watch Colbert, Stewart, Bee, Maher, etc. NOT know a snarky comment when they see one? Trump lies about everything else except for that one statement? Anyone who maintains he was literally, actually communicating with Russian operatives on live TV about Hillary's stupidity with a private server and shenanigans with deleting emails needs to have their head examined.

 

[jknowgood]

Look fuckface, Agent Orange just proved his allegiance to Putin at the G7. The bastard is doing all that he can to destroy the western alliance and NATO. And when he and Putin meet, as soon as they are in a private setting, Putin is going to unzip his pants and say "You have been a good boy, Donnie, you can have a turn".

Show us on the doll where Putin touched you to make you flip your vote

Now that's funny, to bad it's true. lol