Was masterpiece bakeshop decision a victory for religious liberty

[MindWars]

Although many commentators have described the Supreme Court’s decision in Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Civil Rights Commission of Colorado as a “major victory for religious liberty” and for the “freedom of religious expression,” a closer examination of the text of the majority opinion reveals that religious liberty is no safer now than before the Court issued its opinion in this controversial case.

Was Masterpiece Cakeshop Decision a Victory for Religious Liberty?
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They feel proud they've screwed these people. They feel proud to have destroyed one's right to not practice their beliefe. Here is and will be another case of one idiot's move will create more blowback and it can't happen soon enough.

You rabid dog losers doing this oh Karma is gonna find you a.h. you will get just what you dish out douches.

 

[JBvM]

Although many commentators have described the Supreme Court’s decision in Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Civil Rights Commission of Colorado as a “major victory for religious liberty” and for the “freedom of religious expression,” a closer examination of the text of the majority opinion reveals that religious liberty is no safer now than before the Court issued its opinion in this controversial case.

Was Masterpiece Cakeshop Decision a Victory for Religious Liberty?
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They feel proud they've screwed these people. They feel proud to have destroyed one's right to not practice their beliefe. Here is and will be another case of one idiot's move will create more blowback and it can't happen soon enough.

You rabid dog losers doing this oh Karma is gonna find you a.h. you will get just what you dish out douches.

Depends on how one views it, but in my opinion, no.

Religious liberty itself is safe and has been since the nation's founding

 

[Pop23]

Although many commentators have described the Supreme Court’s decision in Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Civil Rights Commission of Colorado as a “major victory for religious liberty” and for the “freedom of religious expression,” a closer examination of the text of the majority opinion reveals that religious liberty is no safer now than before the Court issued its opinion in this controversial case.

Was Masterpiece Cakeshop Decision a Victory for Religious Liberty?
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They feel proud they've screwed these people. They feel proud to have destroyed one's right to not practice their beliefe. Here is and will be another case of one idiot's move will create more blowback and it can't happen soon enough.

You rabid dog losers doing this oh Karma is gonna find you a.h. you will get just what you dish out douches.

A couple of thoughts. The Supremes left open much in their decision. I don't see this as anymore than a technical victory in one sense of the case, but I'm wondering if it brings up the deeper thought that the make-up of these boards, and the biases they have, one way or another, even if not typed out in the decisions can be brought up into question in future cases?

As for the Baker, he opted not to participate in a Market that Obergfell opened up to him after the Supreme Court ruling. I see no evidence that he would make a cake for a Straight same sex wedding, the same as he refused to supply a wedding cake for a Gay same sex wedding. I also see no evidence that in the market he serves, opposite sex weddings, that he would refuse that service to them regardless of the sexuality of those participants.

 

[Silhouette]

Although many commentators have described the Supreme Court’s decision in Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Civil Rights Commission of Colorado as a “major victory for religious liberty” and for the “freedom of religious expression,” a closer examination of the text of the majority opinion reveals that religious liberty is no safer now than before the Court issued its opinion in this controversial case.

Well the neutrality-mandate has alerted the state that if it punishes Christians for failure to promote LGBT values they disagree with then it must punish LGBTs for failure to promote Christian values they disagree with.

It was sort of passing the buck, but also sending a message about future cases and how the Court intends to handle them.

 

[JBvM]

Although many commentators have described the Supreme Court’s decision in Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Civil Rights Commission of Colorado as a “major victory for religious liberty” and for the “freedom of religious expression,” a closer examination of the text of the majority opinion reveals that religious liberty is no safer now than before the Court issued its opinion in this controversial case.

Well the neutrality-mandate has alerted the state that if it punishes Christians for failure to promote LGBT values they disagree with then it must punish LGBTs for failure to promote Christian values they disagree with.

It was sort of passing the buck, but also sending a message about future cases and how the Court intends to handle them.

The Baker asked for a ruling on free speech and the exercise of religion clause:
STOP misrepresenting what the Court said in the opinion:

{ Whatever the confluence of speech and free exercise principles might be in some cases, the Colorado Civil Rights Commission’s consideration of this case was inconsistent
with the State’s obligation of religious neutrality. The reason and motive for the baker’s refusal were based on his sincere religious beliefs and convictions. The Court’s precedents make clear that the baker, in his capacity as the owner of a business serving the public, might have his right to the free exercise of religion limited by generally applicable laws.

Still, the delicate question of when the free exercise of his religion must yield to an otherwise valid exercise of state power needed to be determined in an adjudication in which religious hostility on the part of the State itself would not be a factor in the balance the State sought to reach. That requirement, however, was not met here. When the Colorado

Civil Rights Commission considered this case, it did not do so with the religious neutrality that the Constitution requires.

Given all these considerations, it is proper to hold that whatever the outcome of some future controversy involving facts similar to these, the Commission’s actions here violated the Free Exercise Clause; and its order must be set aside. }

The decision said nothing about the state promoting LGBT values

 

[Silhouette]

The Baker asked for a ruling on free speech and the exercise of religion clause:
STOP misrepresenting what the Court said in the opinion:

The Court told "someone" they had to be respectful of the Christian baker. Now who do you suppose that is and why do you suppose that is?

Shouldn't this thread be in the Food and Wine forum because it's about baking a cake?