The End Times

[kjw47]

You need to understand a little better about what Jesus meant. He taught--return evil for evil to no one--Most have premeditated return evil for evil for their enemies by throwing Jesus away to console---SELF and PRIDE.
He never taught to hate another mortal. He taught to hate the wicked deeds that opposed Gods will.

Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

If you love what God hates, then you don't belong to God. Jesus hated the Jews. He constantly showed his hatred for the Jews, such as when he said they're children of the Devil. Within the context of the Bible, Jesus invented Hell as a place for God to corporately throw Jews. But, you don't know the Bible, so you think I'm wrong.

It's a stupid concept to hate the sin without hating the sinner. There is no such thing as sin apart from a sinner.

Does this sound like hate???? After humiliating him, hitting him, spitting on him and even after driving spikes through his flesh, Jesus returned---Forgive them Father they know not what they do.

Jesus forgave the Romans, not the Jews. Jesus was in exclusive Roman custody when he said "Father forgive them for they know not what they do". Jesus hadn't told the Romans about himself, so the Romans didn't know what they were doing. There's no reason to believe that Jesus' statement applied to Jews. Given that God judged the Jews in 70AD, the Jews weren't forgiven. Jesus hated the Jews.

Jesus' request that the Father forgive the Romans would be contingent upon the Romans repenting, and for which they wouldn't be regarded as sinners.

Jesus came specifically for the Israelites because he did love them. God even left the door open to them after sending his son to his death. Matthew 23:37-39

 

[harmonica]

will this be after we die??
what will it be like? please be specific

Not one thrown into the lake of fire is granted eternal life to suffer--It was symbolism. Jesus taught those would be destroyed. Fire = destruction in this case.

so if we don't want god we will go to hell? when?how?

God set before all--LIFE or DEATH both are everlasting-Deuteronomy 30:19) Actions prove more than words.
Eventually the bible teaches Jesus comes to earth leading Gods armies and wipes out wickedness and captures satan and abysses him for 1000 years during his appointed reign as Gods king. Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day.( 99% mislead)

but the bible was written by man--not god--not inspired by god
so--that has no meaning
it can be interpreted a thousand ways

The bible was inspired by God.

cannot be proved

 

[kjw47]

you willing to be eternal torment when Jesus would be more than happy to introduce himself to you if you let him

Gods justice scales make eternal suffering teaching an impossibility. Let me introduce you to the only true living God--Deut 32:4--All of Gods ways are justice--He showed all perfect justice--an eye for an eye--perfect balance--uncorruptable. Lets apply those scales to that teaching of eternal suffering being literal. Reality shows it is symbolism

On one side--70-90 years of unrepented sin----- On the other side--trillions x trillions, x trillions of never ending years of suffering.

See any balance? No--only a sadist would have eternal suffering, only blind guides that do not know God( John 15:20-21) teach that sadist God--God is love.

Hell is for those who do not want to live with God - so if you do not want God then you will find out what a place without him will be like - nothing with love or life only torment

will this be after we die??
what will it be like? please be specific

Not one thrown into the lake of fire is granted eternal life to suffer--It was symbolism. Jesus taught those would be destroyed. Fire = destruction in this case.

you sure about that lol???

100%

 

[kjw47]

you willing to be eternal torment when Jesus would be more than happy to introduce himself to you if you let him

Gods justice scales make eternal suffering teaching an impossibility. Let me introduce you to the only true living God--Deut 32:4--All of Gods ways are justice--He showed all perfect justice--an eye for an eye--perfect balance--uncorruptable. Lets apply those scales to that teaching of eternal suffering being literal. Reality shows it is symbolism

On one side--70-90 years of unrepented sin----- On the other side--trillions x trillions, x trillions of never ending years of suffering.

See any balance? No--only a sadist would have eternal suffering, only blind guides that do not know God( John 15:20-21) teach that sadist God--God is love.

Hell is for those who do not want to live with God - so if you do not want God then you will find out what a place without him will be like - nothing with love or life only torment

will this be after we die??
what will it be like? please be specific

Not one thrown into the lake of fire is granted eternal life to suffer--It was symbolism. Jesus taught those would be destroyed. Fire = destruction in this case.

it is satans and his followers afterlife not gods

Hades and death will be no more once cast into the lake of fire--- destruction. All things will be destroyed in the lake of fire.

 

[kjw47]

what's lining up??!!
what's lining up??

you kidding me lol - coming together

More like demons playing tricks on those. Usually when one is in a dying state like they were, they were given drugs to ease the pain and suffering. Paul taught--spiritism is how the demons get into one. The greek word used- FARMACIA. Satan has been misleading 99% all along for the majority of mankinds history. He beat them centuries ago and they have no clue.

DUH AND that is what he is doing to you seek Jesus

That is exactly what I did. I learned all that Jesus taught--his truth points to the JW teachers alone.

JW teachers?

Jehovah witness.

 

[kjw47]

Not one thrown into the lake of fire is granted eternal life to suffer--It was symbolism. Jesus taught those would be destroyed. Fire = destruction in this case.

so if we don't want god we will go to hell? when?how?

God set before all--LIFE or DEATH both are everlasting-Deuteronomy 30:19) Actions prove more than words.
Eventually the bible teaches Jesus comes to earth leading Gods armies and wipes out wickedness and captures satan and abysses him for 1000 years during his appointed reign as Gods king. Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day.( 99% mislead)

but the bible was written by man--not god--not inspired by god
so--that has no meaning
it can be interpreted a thousand ways

The bible was inspired by God.

cannot be proved

Archeologists have proved much of the ot true. The whole world has watched revelation occurring for over 100 years. The bible is true. Few know it.

 

[harmonica]

so if we don't want god we will go to hell? when?how?

God set before all--LIFE or DEATH both are everlasting-Deuteronomy 30:19) Actions prove more than words.
Eventually the bible teaches Jesus comes to earth leading Gods armies and wipes out wickedness and captures satan and abysses him for 1000 years during his appointed reign as Gods king. Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day.( 99% mislead)

but the bible was written by man--not god--not inspired by god
so--that has no meaning
it can be interpreted a thousand ways

The bible was inspired by God.

cannot be proved

Archeologists have proved much of the ot true. The whole world has watched revelation occurring for over 100 years. The bible is true. Few know it.

not true
they don't even know for sure who or when it was written

 

[LittleNipper]

God set before all--LIFE or DEATH both are everlasting-Deuteronomy 30:19) Actions prove more than words.
Eventually the bible teaches Jesus comes to earth leading Gods armies and wipes out wickedness and captures satan and abysses him for 1000 years during his appointed reign as Gods king. Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day.( 99% mislead)

but the bible was written by man--not god--not inspired by god
so--that has no meaning
it can be interpreted a thousand ways

The bible was inspired by God.

cannot be proved

Archeologists have proved much of the ot true. The whole world has watched revelation occurring for over 100 years. The bible is true. Few know it.

not true
they don't even know for sure who or when it was written

Alphabetical List of Old Testament Authors

• Amos: The book of Amos
• Daniel: The book of Daniel
• David: Psalms (Other authors wrote portions of Psalms as well)
• Ezekiel: The book of Ezekiel
• Ezra: The book of Ezra (Additionally Ezra is thought to have written 1st and 2nd Chronicles and possibly portions of Nehemiah)
• Habakkuk: The book of Habakkuk
• Haggai: The book of Haggai
• Hosea: The book of Hosea
• Isaiah: The book of Isaiah
• Jeremiah: 1st and 2nd Kings, Lamentations, the book of Jeremiah
• Joel: The book of Joel
• Jonah: The book of Jonah
• Joshua: The book of Joshua
• Malachi: The book of Malachi
• Micah: The book of Micah
• Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy (Moses possibly compiled/wrote the book of Job)
• Nahum: The book of Nahum
• Nehemiah: The book of Nehemiah
• Obadiah: The book of Obadiah
• Samuel: (Samuel is believed to have written 1st and 2nd Samuel, Ruth, and Judges)
• Solomon: Ecclesiastes, Proverbs, Song of Solomon (also known as Song of Songs)
• Zechariah: The book of Zechariah
• Zephaniah: The book of Zephaniah

Alphabetical List of New Testament Authors

• James: The book of James
• John: Gospel of John, 1st John , 2nd John, 3rd John, Revelation
• Jude: Book of Jude
• Luke: Gospel of Luke, Acts of the Apostles
• Mark: Gospel of Mark
• Matthew: Gospel of Matthew
• Paul: Romans, 1st and 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1st and 2nd Thessalonians, 1st and 2nd Timothy, Titus, Philemon (possibly the book of Hebrews)
• Peter: 1st and 2nd Peter

 

[harmonica]

but the bible was written by man--not god--not inspired by god
so--that has no meaning
it can be interpreted a thousand ways

The bible was inspired by God.

cannot be proved

Archeologists have proved much of the ot true. The whole world has watched revelation occurring for over 100 years. The bible is true. Few know it.

not true
they don't even know for sure who or when it was written

Alphabetical List of Old Testament Authors

• Amos: The book of Amos
• Daniel: The book of Daniel
• David: Psalms (Other authors wrote portions of Psalms as well)
• Ezekiel: The book of Ezekiel
• Ezra: The book of Ezra (Additionally Ezra is thought to have written 1st and 2nd Chronicles and possibly portions of Nehemiah)
• Habakkuk: The book of Habakkuk
• Haggai: The book of Haggai
• Hosea: The book of Hosea
• Isaiah: The book of Isaiah
• Jeremiah: 1st and 2nd Kings, Lamentations, the book of Jeremiah
• Joel: The book of Joel
• Jonah: The book of Jonah
• Joshua: The book of Joshua
• Malachi: The book of Malachi
• Micah: The book of Micah
• Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy (Moses possibly compiled/wrote the book of Job)
• Nahum: The book of Nahum
• Nehemiah: The book of Nehemiah
• Obadiah: The book of Obadiah
• Samuel: (Samuel is believed to have written 1st and 2nd Samuel, Ruth, and Judges)
• Solomon: Ecclesiastes, Proverbs, Song of Solomon (also known as Song of Songs)
• Zechariah: The book of Zechariah
• Zephaniah: The book of Zephaniah

Alphabetical List of New Testament Authors

• James: The book of James
• John: Gospel of John, 1st John , 2nd John, 3rd John, Revelation
• Jude: Book of Jude
• Luke: Gospel of Luke, Acts of the Apostles
• Mark: Gospel of Mark
• Matthew: Gospel of Matthew
• Paul: Romans, 1st and 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1st and 2nd Thessalonians, 1st and 2nd Timothy, Titus, Philemon (possibly the book of Hebrews)
• Peter: 1st and 2nd Peter

there is still controversy about the JFK killing in 1963--with video!---and you expect people to believe in something written how long ago??
is there a chain of custody for the ''documents''? obviously no

please prove these were inspired by god

 

[LittleNipper]

The bible was inspired by God.

cannot be proved

Archeologists have proved much of the ot true. The whole world has watched revelation occurring for over 100 years. The bible is true. Few know it.

not true
they don't even know for sure who or when it was written

Alphabetical List of Old Testament Authors

• Amos: The book of Amos
• Daniel: The book of Daniel
• David: Psalms (Other authors wrote portions of Psalms as well)
• Ezekiel: The book of Ezekiel
• Ezra: The book of Ezra (Additionally Ezra is thought to have written 1st and 2nd Chronicles and possibly portions of Nehemiah)
• Habakkuk: The book of Habakkuk
• Haggai: The book of Haggai
• Hosea: The book of Hosea
• Isaiah: The book of Isaiah
• Jeremiah: 1st and 2nd Kings, Lamentations, the book of Jeremiah
• Joel: The book of Joel
• Jonah: The book of Jonah
• Joshua: The book of Joshua
• Malachi: The book of Malachi
• Micah: The book of Micah
• Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy (Moses possibly compiled/wrote the book of Job)
• Nahum: The book of Nahum
• Nehemiah: The book of Nehemiah
• Obadiah: The book of Obadiah
• Samuel: (Samuel is believed to have written 1st and 2nd Samuel, Ruth, and Judges)
• Solomon: Ecclesiastes, Proverbs, Song of Solomon (also known as Song of Songs)
• Zechariah: The book of Zechariah
• Zephaniah: The book of Zephaniah

Alphabetical List of New Testament Authors

• James: The book of James
• John: Gospel of John, 1st John , 2nd John, 3rd John, Revelation
• Jude: Book of Jude
• Luke: Gospel of Luke, Acts of the Apostles
• Mark: Gospel of Mark
• Matthew: Gospel of Matthew
• Paul: Romans, 1st and 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1st and 2nd Thessalonians, 1st and 2nd Timothy, Titus, Philemon (possibly the book of Hebrews)
• Peter: 1st and 2nd Peter

there is still controversy about the JFK killing in 1963--with video!---and you expect people to believe in something written how long ago??
is there a chain of custody for the ''documents''? obviously no

please prove these were inspired by god

God allowed Kennedy to be killed. HE had a purpose for that as well. People who do not believe in an all powerful GOD will always take issue!

 

[harmonica]

cannot be proved

Archeologists have proved much of the ot true. The whole world has watched revelation occurring for over 100 years. The bible is true. Few know it.

not true
they don't even know for sure who or when it was written

Alphabetical List of Old Testament Authors

• Amos: The book of Amos
• Daniel: The book of Daniel
• David: Psalms (Other authors wrote portions of Psalms as well)
• Ezekiel: The book of Ezekiel
• Ezra: The book of Ezra (Additionally Ezra is thought to have written 1st and 2nd Chronicles and possibly portions of Nehemiah)
• Habakkuk: The book of Habakkuk
• Haggai: The book of Haggai
• Hosea: The book of Hosea
• Isaiah: The book of Isaiah
• Jeremiah: 1st and 2nd Kings, Lamentations, the book of Jeremiah
• Joel: The book of Joel
• Jonah: The book of Jonah
• Joshua: The book of Joshua
• Malachi: The book of Malachi
• Micah: The book of Micah
• Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy (Moses possibly compiled/wrote the book of Job)
• Nahum: The book of Nahum
• Nehemiah: The book of Nehemiah
• Obadiah: The book of Obadiah
• Samuel: (Samuel is believed to have written 1st and 2nd Samuel, Ruth, and Judges)
• Solomon: Ecclesiastes, Proverbs, Song of Solomon (also known as Song of Songs)
• Zechariah: The book of Zechariah
• Zephaniah: The book of Zephaniah

Alphabetical List of New Testament Authors

• James: The book of James
• John: Gospel of John, 1st John , 2nd John, 3rd John, Revelation
• Jude: Book of Jude
• Luke: Gospel of Luke, Acts of the Apostles
• Mark: Gospel of Mark
• Matthew: Gospel of Matthew
• Paul: Romans, 1st and 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1st and 2nd Thessalonians, 1st and 2nd Timothy, Titus, Philemon (possibly the book of Hebrews)
• Peter: 1st and 2nd Peter

there is still controversy about the JFK killing in 1963--with video!---and you expect people to believe in something written how long ago??
is there a chain of custody for the ''documents''? obviously no

please prove these were inspired by god

God allowed Kennedy to be killed. HE had a purpose for that as well. People who do not believe in an all powerful GOD will always take issue!

ok

 

[JohnPrewett]

God allowed Kennedy to be killed. HE had a purpose for that as well. People who do not believe in an all powerful GOD will always take issue!

Well, we can be sure God allowed JFK to be shot. However,

I (and a very few more) see good reason to be confident God did not allow JFK to be "killed".

 

[kjw47]

cannot be proved

Archeologists have proved much of the ot true. The whole world has watched revelation occurring for over 100 years. The bible is true. Few know it.

not true
they don't even know for sure who or when it was written

Alphabetical List of Old Testament Authors

• Amos: The book of Amos
• Daniel: The book of Daniel
• David: Psalms (Other authors wrote portions of Psalms as well)
• Ezekiel: The book of Ezekiel
• Ezra: The book of Ezra (Additionally Ezra is thought to have written 1st and 2nd Chronicles and possibly portions of Nehemiah)
• Habakkuk: The book of Habakkuk
• Haggai: The book of Haggai
• Hosea: The book of Hosea
• Isaiah: The book of Isaiah
• Jeremiah: 1st and 2nd Kings, Lamentations, the book of Jeremiah
• Joel: The book of Joel
• Jonah: The book of Jonah
• Joshua: The book of Joshua
• Malachi: The book of Malachi
• Micah: The book of Micah
• Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy (Moses possibly compiled/wrote the book of Job)
• Nahum: The book of Nahum
• Nehemiah: The book of Nehemiah
• Obadiah: The book of Obadiah
• Samuel: (Samuel is believed to have written 1st and 2nd Samuel, Ruth, and Judges)
• Solomon: Ecclesiastes, Proverbs, Song of Solomon (also known as Song of Songs)
• Zechariah: The book of Zechariah
• Zephaniah: The book of Zephaniah

Alphabetical List of New Testament Authors

• James: The book of James
• John: Gospel of John, 1st John , 2nd John, 3rd John, Revelation
• Jude: Book of Jude
• Luke: Gospel of Luke, Acts of the Apostles
• Mark: Gospel of Mark
• Matthew: Gospel of Matthew
• Paul: Romans, 1st and 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1st and 2nd Thessalonians, 1st and 2nd Timothy, Titus, Philemon (possibly the book of Hebrews)
• Peter: 1st and 2nd Peter

there is still controversy about the JFK killing in 1963--with video!---and you expect people to believe in something written how long ago??
is there a chain of custody for the ''documents''? obviously no

please prove these were inspired by god

God allowed Kennedy to be killed. HE had a purpose for that as well. People who do not believe in an all powerful GOD will always take issue!

Its a well known fact--JFK was a whoremaster--God did not know him.

 

[BulletProof]

Jesus came specifically for the Israelites because he did love them. God even left the door open to them after sending his son to his death. Matthew 23:37-39

That passage doesn't say Jesus loved the Jews. Jesus hated the Jews. Jesus loved the Old Testament church, represented by Jerusalem.

 

[kjw47]

Jesus came specifically for the Israelites because he did love them. God even left the door open to them after sending his son to his death. Matthew 23:37-39

That passage doesn't say Jesus loved the Jews. Jesus hated the Jews. Jesus loved the Old Testament church, represented by Jerusalem.

Israel had apostocised again, that is why the romans had control of them. If God was standing with Israel at the time, rome wouldn't have beat Israel. Jesus was sent to them, he pleaded with them about about their errors. Its they who hated him. Jesus' actions proved his love. Jesus is Gods image--God so- LOVED the world he sent his only begotten son--Thus Jesus LOVED the world. Yet 99% have been mislead all throughout basically. They still LOVE them.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Good grief that is ridiculous. This is what religion does to an otherwise rational human being.

 

[BulletProof]

Israel had apostocised again, that is why the romans had control of them. If God was standing with Israel at the time, rome wouldn't have beat Israel. Jesus was sent to them, he pleaded with them about about their errors. Its they who hated him. Jesus' actions proved his love. Jesus is Gods image--God so- LOVED the world he sent his only begotten son--Thus Jesus LOVED the world. Yet 99% have been mislead all throughout basically. They still LOVE them.

If God were standing with Israel, he wouldn't have sent Rome to crush the Jews in the first place. Jesus plead with the Jews. He constantly showed his hate for the Jews, as proved by his actions, such as by sending the Romans to kill the Jews. It's like you've never read the Gospels.

Jesus so loved the world in a manner that excluded the Jews.

 

[JohnPrewett]

Israel had apostocised again, that is why the romans had control of them. If God was standing with Israel at the time, rome wouldn't have beat Israel. Jesus was sent to them, he pleaded with them about about their errors. Its they who hated him. Jesus' actions proved his love. Jesus is Gods image--God so- LOVED the world he sent his only begotten son--Thus Jesus LOVED the world. Yet 99% have been mislead all throughout basically. They still LOVE them.

If God were standing with Israel, he wouldn't have sent Rome to crush the Jews in the first place. Jesus plead with the Jews. He constantly showed his hate for the Jews, as proved by his actions, such as by sending the Romans to kill the Jews. It's like you've never read the Gospels.

Jesus so loved the world in a manner that excluded the Jews.

"for God so loved the WORLD that he gave his only begotten Son,...."

"the world" includes Jews.
Some Jews accepted Jesus ... some Jews rejected Jesus. Same as some Gentiles accept Jesus. Some Gentiles reject Jesus.

The conditions of salvation for Jew and Gentile are identical.

 

[LittleNipper]

God allowed Kennedy to be killed. HE had a purpose for that as well. People who do not believe in an all powerful GOD will always take issue!

Well, we can be sure God allowed JFK to be shot. However,

I (and a very few more) see good reason to be confident God did not allow JFK to be "killed".

No bird falls to the ground that GOD doesn't know it.

 

[BulletProof]

"for God so loved the WORLD that he gave his only begotten Son,...."

"the world" includes Jews.
Some Jews accepted Jesus ... some Jews rejected Jesus. Same as some Gentiles accept Jesus. Some Gentiles reject Jesus.

The conditions of salvation for Jew and Gentile are identical.

"The world" doesn't include Jews. You don't think "the world" necessarily includes everything in the world? Does God love the sin in the world? If you love New York, does that mean you love the traffic jams in New York? Likewise, God has no love for the children of Satan. Hence Jesus called the Jews the children of Satan and sent the Romans to destroy the Jews in a most severe tribulation.

Today's Jews are not descendants of the first century Jews. They are followers or the Talmud who count themselves as spiritual children of the first-century Christ-killers, hence they deserve God's hate.

I agree, all who accept Christ are saved. But, two points: 1) Someone who accepts Christ is not a Jew. 2) It is up to God who accepts Christ.