Zone1 Do you know the good news of the kingdom?

[Clyde 154]

Exactly. For those really serious about God, more is needed than just "On the 7th Day He rested and saw it was all good," or that every animal was herded onto a boat in pairs of two to wash away all of the faithless in a flood (even though there is some supporting archeological evidence of a flood).

Kind of sounds like: "Don't you dare question or examine anything too closely lest God will smite you with boils" crap.

In other words, just accept what you read and don't question anything.

We are a questioning species. No wonder the Church is losing more and more young every day.

That's not what MY BIBLE declares, ".......TEST EVERYTHING, HOLD ONTO WHAT IS GOOD." -- 1 Thess. 5:21 Do you actually belief in a Self Creation Universe, that created itself from Nothing? Do you actually believe that men evolved naturally from star dust? That if you leave Helium and Hydrogen alone for 13 billion years, these 2 gases will evolve into men? Do you believe that mankind evolved from pond scum? The Bible declares, men are created the same as animals, each after its own kind, that reproduction can take place only within the same species (Genesis 1:24) Louis Pasture proved this statement as truth in the 1900s and that law of physics has never been proven wrong.

God invites all men to TEST His teachings. God declares, BRING YOUR BEST ARGUMENTS when He claims to be the one and only creator, "Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take council together. Who has declared this from ancient time (the beginning)? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, the Lord? There is no other God besides Me, a just God and Savior, there is none besides Me." -- Isa. 45:21

God has no fear of man's pseudo logic...based upon dogma, assumptions, speculations void of objectivity. "Thinking themselves wise they became fools......" -- Romans 1:22

"For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?" -- 1 Cor. 1:19-20

Proof? "Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God......." -- Romans 10:17 The word of God is the sword of the Spirit (Eph. 6:17). The bible has existed for over 3500 years. The result of its teachings? The bible is the best selling piece of literature in world history........it has converted 31. 2% of the worlds total population to accept the word of 1 Carpenters Son AND 12 close friends/brothers, as Truth from Heaven.

The Lord promised that His words would last until the end of time, as of today, the scriptures remain unbroken, more and more people, each day are being added into the Spiritual Kingdom of God..........the Christian Nation grows on a daily basis.........its an everlasting Kingdom. (Ps. 145:13, Dan. 7:14, 2 Peter 1:11, Matthew 24:35)

 

[toobfreak]

Do you actually belief in a Self Creation Universe, that created itself from Nothing?

Actually no. Just because I analyze things, doesn't make me an atheist. But since God created the universe, he must have created it from nothing as there was nothing of it before God created it.

Do you actually believe that men evolved naturally from star dust?

No. That "natural" process was created by and directed by God for a purpose only he understands.

God invites all men to TEST His teachings.

Good, because I have spent my life studying and testing his teachings, not to doubt them but to better understand them. And I've found legitimacy to all religions for the most part, like looking at a crystal from various sides. I've found religion to be real and not mutually exclusive that for one to be RIGHT, that all others must be WRONG!

Religion regardless of origin is each culture's attempt and recognition that man is neither the center of all things, nor at the top of the mountain. It is a recognition that for society to remain moral and whole, we must consecrate ourselves to a higher cause. The belief that we and our world are nothing more than an "accident" and that knowledge, wisdom, morality and consciousness a mere random happening is the basest of rationalizations designed to justify man's own moral relativism to escape his own accountability.

 

[kjw47]

Ad hominem BS does not replace the documented book, chapter and verse. Only a fool would suggest that Jesus was rejected by the Jews.........Jesus was a Jew, all His original disciples were Jews..........the first gentile family to be converted into the Christian Church/Kingdom did not happen until 10 years after the ascension of Jesus Christ (Acts 10).

"I say then, Hath God cast away His people (the Jews)? God forbid. FOR I (SAUL/PAUL) am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the Tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away His people which He foreknew........." -- Romans 11:1-2

The gospel was exclusive to the Jews only in the infant stage of Jesus' church, as the Jews were promised a new covenant like the Covenant of Christ would be given to Israel (Jer. 31:31-34)........even though they continually broke God's Law.

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the Power of God unto salvation........TO THE JEW FIRST......." -- Romans 1:16

Do not think that you are special because you as a gentile have replaced God's people.......... God did not reject Biblical Israel, a loyal remnant was saved according to prophecy. The Jews are blinded to the gospel truth due their own stubborn pride, even to this day. (Romans 11:8) But they are the natural root, it is the gentile nations that have been grafted into the natural root (Romans 11:17)

"Boast not against the branches (the original Jewish tree). But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root......but the root bears thee (there could be not gentile conversions if not for the original root (the Jews). "What shall we say then, The branches were broken off (the original Jews), that I (gentile nation) be grafted in? WELL; BECAUSE OF UNBELIEF THEY WERE BROKEN OFF, AND THOU (the gentile) STANDEST BY FAITH. BE NOT HIGHMINDED..........for If God sparred not the natural branches, TAKE HEED, LEST HE ALSO NOT SPARE THEE......" -- Romans 11:18-21


In the past God had saved a loyal remnant of Israel, "Lord they have killed thy prophets, and digged down Thine alters; I am left alone, and they seek my life. But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to Myself 7000 men, who have not bowed a knee to the image of Baal. EVEN SO AT THE PRESENT TIME (1st century AD) there is a remnant according to the election of grave........" -- Romans 11:3-5

The Jew is equal to the Christian..........all are one when baptized into Christ Jesus, there is neither Jew nor Greek (gentile).........all are seeds of Abraham and heirs to the promise (Gal. 3:28-29)

Can the Jew be saved today? Of course, just like anyone else......by accepting the Gospel Truth of Christ Jesus....the good news (Romans 11:23)

Gods love is so great, that even though the Jews sent their own messiah ( Gods son) to his death, he left the door open to them=Matt 23:39--They have outright refused for over 1950 years.

 

[kjw47]

That sounds about right. Consistent with what I told you.

Do you know that the father of the Big Bang Theory postulating that
the universe had it origins nearly 14 billion years ago now proven fact
was actually a Catholic priest by the name of Georges Lemaître?

Looks like "God" got his own book wrong and Moses didn't know what he was talking about!
Mind you, I'm anything but an atheist, just pointing out the flaws and limitations
of the Bible that Christians have been going to war over for 2000 years
trying to claim it was the absolute last word in the universe.

Its more like scientists who use math and science very flawed are the ones in error.
Catholicism is the foretold great apostasy--They screwed it all up. No protestant religion ever fixed much.

 

[alang1216]

All claim it. But in light of 1 Cor 1:10= Unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth) no division= 1 single religion is lead by Jesus.

Christianity has never been a single religion, even in Paul's day there were many competing theologies.

 

[alang1216]

Gods love is so great, that even though the Jews sent their own messiah ( Gods son) to his death, he left the door open to them=Matt 23:39--They have outright refused for over 1950 years.

Isn't that why He came? You should be thanking those Jews for your salvation.

 

[kjw47]

Christianity has never been a single religion, even in Paul's day there were many competing theologies.

It was foretold, false teachers would get in. Jesus has 1 religion, the rest are false.

 

[kjw47]

Isn't that why He came? You should be thanking those Jews for your salvation.

They filled their hearts with hatred= satan lead.

 

[alang1216]

It was foretold, false teachers would get in. Jesus has 1 religion, the rest are false.

Is there a Christian sect that says anything different about themselves?

 

[alang1216]

They filled their hearts with hatred= satan lead.

So you can't blame the Jews can you. What would have happened if Jesus didn't die for your sins?

 

[kjw47]

Is there a Christian sect that says anything different about themselves?

Of course they all claim to be followers of Jesus, but only 1 actually is-1Cor 1:10--there is no division in Jesus 1 religion= a worldwide brotherhood unified in love, peace and unity.

 

[alang1216]

Of course they all claim to be followers of Jesus, but only 1 actually is-1Cor 1:10--there is no division in Jesus 1 religion= a worldwide brotherhood unified in love, peace and unity.

Paul was asking for something that didn't exist in his time and still does not. It would be nice but it is not to be.

 

[ding]

Paul was asking for something that didn't exist in his time and still does not. It would be nice but it is not to be.

Diversity is a good thing. It's natural.

 

[alang1216]

Diversity is a good thing. It's natural.

Yes, and it facilitates evolution.

 

[ding]

Yes, and it facilitates evolution.

And conflict. Which isn't necessarily bad. What is evolution if not conflict, right?

 

[kjw47]

So you can't blame the Jews can you. What would have happened if Jesus didn't die for your sins?

No one could get saved. Unfortunately-Few find the road that leads off into life Jesus said.

Paul was asking for something that didn't exist in his time and still does not. It would be nice but it is not to be.

What did Paul ask for?

 

[alang1216]

No one could get saved.

So you should be thanking the Jews for doing God's work, not blaming them.

What did Paul ask for?

The impossible. At least for the humans made by God.

 

[The Duke]

The last book of the bible( Revelation) was written in 96 ce. Fact of history.

Why do you call it CE instead of A.D.?

They gotcha! Leftists got that changed while I was in school. It's an attempt to deny the existence

of Jesus and his significance to all. "Anno Domini" means "Year of our Lord" and leftists do not like that at all.

I remember looking over at a friend of mine from the neighborhood when they were doing that and we just both shook our heads.

For almost 2K years it was "Anno Domini" and leftists should not be allowed to change that.

 

[The Duke]

Diversity is a good thing. It's natural.

At least it has been since the Tower of Babel.

 

[alang1216]

Why do you call it CE instead of A.D.?

They gotcha! Leftists got that changed while I was in school. It's an attempt to deny the existence

of Jesus and his significance to all. "Anno Domini" means "Year of our Lord" and leftists do not like that at all.

I remember looking over at a friend of mine from the neighborhood when they were doing that and we just both shook our heads.

For almost 2K years it was "Anno Domini" and leftists should not be allowed to change that.

The current consensus is that Jesus was born in 4 BC. Doesn't sound quite right to say he as born before he was born and he was 4 before he got his Anno.