The electric car ‘revolution’ is a disaster before it’s begun

[jc456]

Toyota has announced that they will have a 620 mile range battery by 2026. That is getting closer, but I want to see 1000 mile range.

never happen, Toyota will be putting out hydrogen engine cars.

 

[Donald H]

I wouldn't mind public transport ... if they didn't let every member of the public use it.

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That's Ameirica.
It's the result of the choices you people have made.

 

[Crick]

That's Ameirica.
It's the result of the choices you people have made.

That's "PUBLIC". Your apparent bigotry is the result of the choices you've made.

 

[Concerned American]

never happen, Toyota will be putting out hydrogen engine cars.

Toyota to Launch Solid State Battery by 2026 with 621-Mile Range

Toyota management tosses EV skepticism in the name of keeping with industry standards, including new R&D headquarters and an NCM Li-ion battery coming by 2026.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[jc456]

Toyota to Launch Solid State Battery by 2026 with 621-Mile Range

Toyota management tosses EV skepticism in the name of keeping with industry standards, including new R&D headquarters and an NCM Li-ion battery coming by 2026.

www.caranddriver.com

Toyota bet wrong on EVs, so now it’s lobbying to slow the transition

Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investments in hybrids, hydrogen.

arstechnica.com

Here's How Toyota Could Save The Internal Combustion Engine

With an approach to achieving carbon neutrality, Toyota is betting on running combustion engines on Hydrogen, but it faces some challenges.

www.topspeed.com

 

[Concerned American]

Toyota bet wrong on EVs, so now it’s lobbying to slow the transition

Toyota has stepped up lobbying to preserve its investments in hybrids, hydrogen.

arstechnica.com

Here's How Toyota Could Save The Internal Combustion Engine

With an approach to achieving carbon neutrality, Toyota is betting on running combustion engines on Hydrogen, but it faces some challenges.

www.topspeed.com

I put a bit more stock in an actual Toyota announcement than in someones speculation about would, coulda, shoulda. To your point though, I am sure they are dabbling in hydrogen as well. I think that probably every major mfr. is.

 

[Donald H]

Toyota to Launch Solid State Battery by 2026 with 621-Mile Range

Toyota management tosses EV skepticism in the name of keeping with industry standards, including new R&D headquarters and an NCM Li-ion battery coming by 2026.

www.caranddriver.com

Are you coming over from the dark side my friend?

China committed to EV's early enough to lead the world!

But it's still not being understood by Americans that EV's won't ever replace gas vehicles 1 for 1. Mass transit will but none of America's corrupt politicians can say so!l

Ask me why!

 

[Concerned American]

Ask me why!

Why would I ask you anything, duck? You've already demonstrated your ignorance in science, math, and politics. And you still ignore the fucked up state of your own country and its so-called leader, Turdeau.

 

[Donald H]

Why would I ask you anything, duck? You've already demonstrated your ignorance in science, math, and politics. And you still ignore the fucked up state of your own country and its so-called leader, Turdeau.

I'm happy with you at least coming over from the dark side. When you behave as a grown up instead of a petulant brat, you do have ability to reason. You've been showing indications that you were getting ready to move on other topics too!

Welcome to 'my' pond!

Yes, it 'is' mine now!

 

[leftwinger]

Bottom line:

Why do they have to eliminate or destroy OIL & GAS production (tripling the cost) to "FORCE" people into Battery Cars that are Charged by Natural Gas, Coal or Nuclear? Why do they want to?
The word Control comes to mind.

 

[jc456]

Bottom line:

Why do they have to eliminate or destroy OIL & GAS production (tripling the cost) to "FORCE" people into Battery Cars that are Charged by Natural Gas, Coal or Nuclear? Why do they want to?
The word Control comes to mind.

DICTATORSHIP

 

[Captain Caveman]

I know:

The electric car ‘revolution’ is a disaster before it’s begun

The electric car revolution is stalling, of that there can no longer be any doubt. It has left the big global carmakers floundering, uncertain of how to proceed in a race they reluctantly entered in the first place.

www.yahoo.com

.....Volkswagen is so concerned about flagging sales that it has taken the extraordinary decision of halting electric vehicle production at one of its biggest plants. Assembly lines for electric models will be paused for six weeks at the Emden factory in northwest Germany and 300 of its 1,500 staff laid off after sales fell 30pc short of forecasts.

This means production of the new VW ID.7 electric model, which had been due to commence in July will be pushed back until the end of the year. The ID.4 electric SUV and the upcoming ID.7 electric sedan will also be delayed.

“We are experiencing strong customer reluctance in the electric vehicle sector,” plant boss Manfred Wulff said.

That is remarkably plain language from the largest car manufacturer on the planet, and a company that recently announced plans to invest €120bn (£103bn) over the next five years in “electrification and digitalisation”.

It comes months after Ford poured cold water on the shift to electric with thousands of job losses in Europe. Electric vehicle production is unable to support anything like the same number of jobs that petrol and diesel models are able to sustain, it said. Boss Jim Farley estimates that 40pc fewer staff will be needed to develop battery versions.

A generation of pure electric vehicle makers has hardly fared any better. On Tuesday, Lordstown Motors, the US electric truck specialist that Donald Trump once heralded as the saviour of a depressed Ohio town, filed for bankruptcy protection.

Even Elon Musk has been forced to repeatedly cut the price of Teslas in a desperate effort to prop up demand and protect market share.

Eventually if the product doesn't fit the consumer requirements......They don't sell.....How did automakers forget that?

It doesn't matter how hard the leftists try to manipulate the market you can't mask that with "Well the EV appeal is becoming more selective is all” BS to explain away the waning support.

Not to mention the armies of child slaves mining cobalt and lithium for bare subsistence, in enormous pits, knee deep in toxic water.

But hey, highly educated white blue-burb women feel better about themselves......That is the real EV universe.

In the op, it states customer reluctance

So even VW don't get it. EV's simply cost too much, they're inconvenient, their features and benefits are crap, and the infrastructure is non existent. And they think the public is reluctant?

 

[Crick]

In the op, it states customer reluctance

So even VW don't get it. EV's simply cost too much, they're inconvenient, their features and benefits are crap, and the infrastructure is non existent. And they think the public is reluctant?

Customer reluctance? Where?

EV-Volumes - The Electric Vehicle World Sales Database

EV-volumes is a database of sales statistics, charging infrastructure, batteries, car models, and sales forecasts for plug-in cars. EV-volumes also delivers market studies and reports

www.ev-volumes.com

 

[Concerned American]

I'm happy with you at least coming over from the dark side. When you behave as a grown up instead of a petulant brat, you do have ability to reason. You've been showing indications that you were getting ready to move on other topics too!

Welcome to 'my' pond!

Yes, it 'is' mine now!

Typical duck mentality. You think you own a pond that is surrounded by hunters with 12 GA shotguns. Moron.

 

[Crick]

Customer reluctance? Where?

EV-Volumes - The Electric Vehicle World Sales Database

EV-volumes is a database of sales statistics, charging infrastructure, batteries, car models, and sales forecasts for plug-in cars. EV-volumes also delivers market studies and reports

www.ev-volumes.com

If you think this is fake news 1srelluc, you must have different data. Let's see it.

 

[Donald H]

Typical duck mentality. You think you own a pond that is surrounded by hunters with 12 GA shotguns. Moron.

I'm just glad that you've come to understand that EV's are the future, and there's no need to tell everybody that they will only replace 1 in 10 gasoline polluters. They're not ready for the big letdown.
I don't charge rent to sit on one of my lily pads.
It's true-doh!

 

[jc456]

Customer reluctance? Where?

EV-Volumes - The Electric Vehicle World Sales Database

EV-volumes is a database of sales statistics, charging infrastructure, batteries, car models, and sales forecasts for plug-in cars. EV-volumes also delivers market studies and reports

www.ev-volumes.com

How long to get a 100% charge from 20%?

 

[jc456]

I'm just glad that you've come to understand that EV's are the future, and there's no need to tell everybody that they will only replace 1 in 10 gasoline polluters. They're not ready for the big letdown.
I don't charge rent to sit on one of my lily pads.
It's true-doh!

EVs will die off very soon

 

[Concerned American]

I'm just glad that you've come to understand that EV's are the future, and there's no need to tell everybody that they will only replace 1 in 10 gasoline polluters. They're not ready for the big letdown.
I don't charge rent to sit on one of my lily pads.
It's true-doh!

Along with the intellectual failures that I listed previously, we can add reading comprehension. Please link to where I suggested that EVs are the future. Now run along duck. You're a moron.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Customer reluctance? Where?

EV-Volumes - The Electric Vehicle World Sales Database

EV-volumes is a database of sales statistics, charging infrastructure, batteries, car models, and sales forecasts for plug-in cars. EV-volumes also delivers market studies and reports

www.ev-volumes.com

That's what VW's plant boss said. Did you not read the op? I think you should.