The Education of Palin vs Obama

[boedicca]

i thought that didnt matter? it just mattered who was in charge? if thats the route you want to take now, you open the door for great justification as to why Obama increased government spending to stave off another depression.

we can look at Clinton for a great example. Higher taxes on the wealthy, lower taxes on the middle class, huge economic boom for all 8 years of his presidency. debt decreases, and we actually had a surplus (but im sure you will give all the credit to the republican congress)

Bush comes into office. passes huge tax cuts for the wealthy, starts 2 wars, obliterates the surplus immediately and drives up the debt and deficit. continue the clinton boom, but it is short lived as we have a recession after 9/11 (although short lived) followed by a short boom, and then we tank into another recession. (but then again im sure youll simply blame the democratic congress for all of this as well)

and thats just a good start.

Your assessment of Clinton is inaccurate. Clinton benefited from the growth oriented Reagan era policies, the peace dividend, the Gingrich Congress, the Y2K tech spend bulge, the Dotcom Bubble, and the Telecom Bubble.

Your assessment of Bush is inadequate for other reasons.

And one can hardly call your ignorance of economics a Good Start.

like i said, you simply will claim that it was a republican congress that is the only reason Clinton succeeded.

but i though the republican mantra was never to raise taxes? so why did they let clinton raise taxes on only the wealthy? doesnt that go against supply side / voodoo economics? why did that alienate the republican base?

FactCheck.org: Were Clinton's policies responsible for the 1990s' economic growth?

clinton in fact raised taxes with huge opposition from the republicans, who "denounced it as the largest tax increase in history."

under Reagon GDP declined, and the deficit rose. since that time supply side economics has been widely discredited as sound economic policy.
The Failure of Supply-Side Economics
Economist's View: The Great Lie of Supply-Side Economics
Robert Creamer: New Economic Data Shows that Right Wing Economic Theory Is Simply Wrong.

That is not what I said, you dim bulb.

Clinton benefited from the confluence of some highly favorable conditions for growth. Some were long term systemic (until the government undid them), some were temporal blips (dot com bubble). He was also politically astute enough to change course in 1994, something Obama is congenitally unable to do.

 

[Common Sense]

Your assessment of Clinton is inaccurate. Clinton benefited from the growth oriented Reagan era policies, the peace dividend, the Gingrich Congress, the Y2K tech spend bulge, the Dotcom Bubble, and the Telecom Bubble.

Your assessment of Bush is inadequate for other reasons.

And one can hardly call your ignorance of economics a Good Start.

like i said, you simply will claim that it was a republican congress that is the only reason Clinton succeeded.

but i though the republican mantra was never to raise taxes? so why did they let clinton raise taxes on only the wealthy? doesnt that go against supply side / voodoo economics? why did that alienate the republican base?

FactCheck.org: Were Clinton's policies responsible for the 1990s' economic growth?

clinton in fact raised taxes with huge opposition from the republicans, who "denounced it as the largest tax increase in history."

under Reagon GDP declined, and the deficit rose. since that time supply side economics has been widely discredited as sound economic policy.
The Failure of Supply-Side Economics
Economist's View: The Great Lie of Supply-Side Economics
Robert Creamer: New Economic Data Shows that Right Wing Economic Theory Is Simply Wrong.

That is not what I said, you dim bulb.

Clinton benefited from the confluence of some highly favorable conditions for growth. Some were long term systemic (until the government undid them), some were temporal blips (dot com bubble). He was also politically astute enough to change course in 1994, something Obama is congenitally unable to do.

your exact words: "Clinton benefited from the growth oriented Reagan era policies, the peace dividend, the Gingrich Congress"

he did not benefit from Reagan policies nor the Gingrich congress. i disproved this in a few easy posts. maybe you should read things before you post them, better yet do some research first and see if your claims have standing.

 

[bodecea]

Wow. For somebody who recently ranted in a thread about people who spend $7 per day on food being Rich, it's fascinating to see CS genuflect at the altar of Ivy League Education Elitism.

Obama's education and job experience prior to becoming president were in a hermetically sealed academic and progressive bubble. He has no real experience in the real world, has never created a real job, never had to meet payroll, never had to comply with the mass of regulations that he and his egghead theoreticians impose on the private sector while exempting themselves.

I'm not a Palin fan, but between the two, she is much more in touch with real America, and would make far better decisions than the Epic Fail performed by Obama.

Not to mention, aren't we in the mess we are in thanks to a bunch of "Ivy Leaguers"?

We are? How do you see that?

 

[Common Sense]

Wow. For somebody who recently ranted in a thread about people who spend $7 per day on food being Rich, it's fascinating to see CS genuflect at the altar of Ivy League Education Elitism.

Obama's education and job experience prior to becoming president were in a hermetically sealed academic and progressive bubble. He has no real experience in the real world, has never created a real job, never had to meet payroll, never had to comply with the mass of regulations that he and his egghead theoreticians impose on the private sector while exempting themselves.

I'm not a Palin fan, but between the two, she is much more in touch with real America, and would make far better decisions than the Epic Fail performed by Obama.

Not to mention, aren't we in the mess we are in thanks to a bunch of "Ivy Leaguers"?

We are? How do you see that?

Presidents from Ivy League Schools:

Harvard University

John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford B. Hayes (Law School)
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin D. Roosevelt
John F. Kennedy
George W. Bush (Business School)
Barack Obama (Law School)

Yale University

William Howard Taft
Gerald R. Ford
George H. W. Bush
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush

Princeton University

James Madison
Woodrow Wilson


yup apparently all these guys failed miserably in life.

 

[bodecea]

Not to mention, aren't we in the mess we are in thanks to a bunch of "Ivy Leaguers"?

We are? How do you see that?

Presidents from Ivy League Schools:

Harvard University

John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford B. Hayes (Law School)
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin D. Roosevelt
John F. Kennedy
George W. Bush (Business School)
Barack Obama (Law School)

Yale University

William Howard Taft
Gerald R. Ford
George H. W. Bush
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush

Princeton University

James Madison
Woodrow Wilson


yup apparently all these guys failed miserably in life.

Ooooooooh.......

 

[blastoff]

I'll take on the job performance any day over one's education, Ivy League, otherwise, or even no college.

Barry boy's a perfect example of an intelligent, very well educated, yet woefully inexperienced politician, manager, leader, etc.

 

[Common Sense]

I'll take on the job performance any day over one's education, Ivy League, otherwise, or even no college.

Barry boy's a perfect example of an intelligent, very well educated, yet woefully inexperienced politician, manager, leader, etc.

so tell me what policies should he have enacted instead of the current ones? and what effect would that have had on the state of the economy and world today? let hear it.

stop thinking that calling him Barry or Hussein is demeaning. If you dont have respect for the man, at least have respect for the office of the presidency.

 

[logical4u]

Or maybe it's mere coincidience and this is just another case of a liberal seeing causality where there isn't any. Again if the guy is so bright, why is he such an economic and policy idiot?

thats your opinion. many others see it in a much different light (of course these are all terrible ideas)

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protectingcredit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorpsprogram
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

And that has helped the economy, how?
And that has reduced the deficit, how?
And that has helped secure our borders, how?
And that has helped increase freedom, how?


He is a true 'intellect'. He decides what is beneficial, and implements it. When it is proven to be thouroughly useless, he goes on and on about all the work he put into it. Maybe he never took physics, you have to have movement to equal work. Otherwise it is just "force" (that would be the opposite of freedom, BTW).

Yes, he is a lecturer: talk, talk, talk, give assignments (make work for other people).

Again, how has he helped the country?????????

 

[Avatar4321]

Not to mention, aren't we in the mess we are in thanks to a bunch of "Ivy Leaguers"?

We are? How do you see that?

Presidents from Ivy League Schools:

Harvard University

John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford B. Hayes (Law School)
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin D. Roosevelt
John F. Kennedy
George W. Bush (Business School)
Barack Obama (Law School)

Yale University

William Howard Taft
Gerald R. Ford
George H. W. Bush
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush

Princeton University

James Madison
Woodrow Wilson


yup apparently all these guys failed miserably in life.

Ive noted that other than John Adams and James Madison, there isnt one President on that list that I'd say was really good.

Some so so ones

Some really crappy ones.

But no really good ones.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Wow. For somebody who recently ranted in a thread about people who spend $7 per day on food being Rich, it's fascinating to see CS genuflect at the altar of Ivy League Education Elitism.

Obama's education and job experience prior to becoming president were in a hermetically sealed academic and progressive bubble. He has no real experience in the real world, has never created a real job, never had to meet payroll, never had to comply with the mass of regulations that he and his egghead theoreticians impose on the private sector while exempting themselves.

I'm not a Palin fan, but between the two, she is much more in touch with real America, and would make far better decisions than the Epic Fail performed by Obama.

Not to mention, aren't we in the mess we are in thanks to a bunch of "Ivy Leaguers"?

We are? How do you see that?

Yes we are. How do you not see that?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I'll take on the job performance any day over one's education, Ivy League, otherwise, or even no college.

Barry boy's a perfect example of an intelligent, very well educated, yet woefully inexperienced politician, manager, leader, etc.

so tell me what policies should he have enacted instead of the current ones? and what effect would that have had on the state of the economy and world today? let hear it.

stop thinking that calling him Barry or Hussein is demeaning. If you dont have respect for the man, at least have respect for the office of the presidency.

He has gone by Barry and Hussein is his middle name. So.. WTF??

Grow up you hyper-sensitive Pansy. Good Lord.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

thats your opinion. many others see it in a much different light (of course these are all terrible ideas)

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protectingcredit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorpsprogram
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

And that has helped the economy, how?
And that has reduced the deficit, how?
And that has helped secure our borders, how?
And that has helped increase freedom, how?


He is a true 'intellect'. He decides what is beneficial, and implements it. When it is proven to be thouroughly useless, he goes on and on about all the work he put into it. Maybe he never took physics, you have to have movement to equal work. Otherwise it is just "force" (that would be the opposite of freedom, BTW).

Yes, he is a lecturer: talk, talk, talk, give assignments (make work for other people).

Again, how has he helped the country?????????

It appeals to the style over substance crowd. If looks good and it sounds cool, that is all that matters. Obama is an empty suit.

 

[Avatar4321]

It appeals to the style over substance crowd. If looks good and it sounds cool, that is all that matters. Obama is an empty suit.

The problem is too many people are worried about style over substance.

 

[boedicca]

he did not benefit from Reagan policies nor the Gingrich congress. i disproved this in a few easy posts. maybe you should read things before you post them, better yet do some research first and see if your claims have standing.

You're an economic loon.

You did not disprove that Clinton benefited from the growth climate Reagan fostered in the 80s; nor did you disprove that he benefited from the spending restraint put in place by Congress after the 1994 election.

 

[theHawk]

i found this really interesting:

here is Sarah Palin's education:

After graduating from high school, Palin enrolled at the University of Hawaii in Hilo. Shortly after arriving in Hawaii, Palin switched to Hawaii Pacific University for a semester in the fall of 1982 and then North Idaho College in the spring and fall of 1983. She attended the University of Idaho in the fall of 1984 and spring of 1985, and attended Matanuska-Susitna College in the fall of 1985. Palin returned to the University of Idaho in the spring of 1986, receiving her bachelor's degree in communications with an emphasis in journalism in 1987.
After graduating, she worked as a sportscaster for KTUU-TV and KTVA-TV in Anchorage, and as a sports reporter for the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, fulfilling an early ambition.

so to sum it up, she attended 5 (one of them twice) different colleges before getting a Communications degree.

Obama's Education:

Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College.
Later in 1981 he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, and president of the journal in his second year. He graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991

so to sum this one up, starts at Occidental, finishes at Columbia with a degree in political science then graduates magna cum laude with a law degree (J.D.) from harvard.

not to knock the University of Idaho, but it sure as hell isnt Occidental, Columbia or Harvard.

now why do people think she is qualified to be president?????

Regardless of Obama's education, he is a real world failure.

His first two years in office is proof enough he is still unqualified to be President.

 

[boedicca]

Obama has never COMPLETED a job. Each job he has had has funded his job search for the next one - without him actually accomplishing anything of note...up the the current one.

And what he has accomplished so far is noteworthy for all of the wrong reasons.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

i found this really interesting:

here is Sarah Palin's education:

After graduating from high school, Palin enrolled at the University of Hawaii in Hilo. Shortly after arriving in Hawaii, Palin switched to Hawaii Pacific University for a semester in the fall of 1982 and then North Idaho College in the spring and fall of 1983. She attended the University of Idaho in the fall of 1984 and spring of 1985, and attended Matanuska-Susitna College in the fall of 1985. Palin returned to the University of Idaho in the spring of 1986, receiving her bachelor's degree in communications with an emphasis in journalism in 1987.
After graduating, she worked as a sportscaster for KTUU-TV and KTVA-TV in Anchorage, and as a sports reporter for the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, fulfilling an early ambition.

so to sum it up, she attended 5 (one of them twice) different colleges before getting a Communications degree.

Obama's Education:

Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College.
Later in 1981 he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, and president of the journal in his second year. He graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991

so to sum this one up, starts at Occidental, finishes at Columbia with a degree in political science then graduates magna cum laude with a law degree (J.D.) from harvard.

not to knock the University of Idaho, but it sure as hell isnt Occidental, Columbia or Harvard.

now why do people think she is qualified to be president?????

Regardless of Obama's education, he is a real world failure.

His first two years in office is proof enough he is still unqualified to be President.

Seriously, I wouldn't hire him to do anything. Actually, he seems very lazy. I only remember him mentioning one real job, and he described it as hell.

 

[boedicca]

He can't even do his own press conference to support the tax cut extension. Bill had to do it for him while Obama headed off to a party.

Obama is the kid in school who did none of the work for group projects, but wanted to do the best part of the presentation to get the credit for himself.

 

[Common Sense]

I'll take on the job performance any day over one's education, Ivy League, otherwise, or even no college.

Barry boy's a perfect example of an intelligent, very well educated, yet woefully inexperienced politician, manager, leader, etc.

so tell me what policies should he have enacted instead of the current ones? and what effect would that have had on the state of the economy and world today? let hear it.

stop thinking that calling him Barry or Hussein is demeaning. If you dont have respect for the man, at least have respect for the office of the presidency.

He has gone by Barry and Hussein is his middle name. So.. WTF??

Grow up you hyper-sensitive Pansy. Good Lord.

awwww did i hit a nerve?
you jackasses try to use it a demeaning way. no one ever referred to GW as Walker. growth the fuck up. or crawl back into the swamp you came out of.

 

[Common Sense]

Obama has never COMPLETED a job. Each job he has had has funded his job search for the next one - without him actually accomplishing anything of note...up the the current one.

And what he has accomplished so far is noteworthy for all of the wrong reasons.

nope he never apparently completed anything:

In 1991, Obama accepted a two-year position as Visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School to work on his first book.[44] He then served as a professor at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years—as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004—teaching constitutional law.[45]
From April to October 1992, Obama directed Illinois's Project Vote, a voter registration drive with ten staffers and seven hundred volunteer registrars; it achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, and led to Crain's Chicago Business naming Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.[46] In 1993 he joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 13-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[47]
From 1994 to 2002, Obama served on the boards of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund the Developing Communities Project, and of the Joyce Foundation.[32] He served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995 to 2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995 to 1999.[32]
Legislative career: 1997–2008

State Senator: 1997–2004
Main article: Illinois Senate career of Barack Obama
Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996, succeeding State Senator Alice Palmer as Senator from Illinois's 13th District, which at that time spanned Chicago South Side neighborhoods from Hyde Park – Kenwood south to South Shore and west to Chicago Lawn.[48] Once elected, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[49] He sponsored a law increasing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.[50] In 2001, as co-chairman of the bipartisan Joint Committee on Administrative Rules, Obama supported Republican Governor Ryan's payday loan regulations and predatory mortgage lending regulations aimed at averting home foreclosures.[51]
Obama was reelected to the Illinois Senate in 1998, defeating Republican Yesse Yehudah in the general election, and was reelected again in 2002.[52] In 2000, he lost a Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives to four-term incumbent Bobby Rush by a margin of two to one.[53]
In January 2003, Obama became chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee when Democrats, after a decade in the minority, regained a majority.[54] He sponsored and led unanimous, bipartisan passage of legislation to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they detained, and legislation making Illinois the first state to mandate videotaping of homicide interrogations.[50][55] During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.[56] Obama resigned from the Illinois Senate in November 2004 following his election to the U.S. Senate.[57]

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