The Education of Palin vs Obama

[Common Sense]

way to ignore the entire rest of my post and argument...

Your argument is that becae The Obama went to Harvard Law, he is, on that alone, necessarily better qualified to be Predient than Palin.

Hogwash. The Obama's education was -wasted- on HIm.

this argument counselor.

"so why hasnt anyone since Truman been elected president without a college degree? maybe because the general public see the value of a higher education? you point out one anomaly in the last 100 years and all of a sudden that changes everything? and you have a law degree? thats like citing one specific case and claiming it as the only evidence, with the overwhelming majority of evidence claiming the opposite. i think thats a loser in the jury's eyes. "

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama still hasn't released a single scrap of paper from his college and law school days, why?

Obama's racked up annual deficits of over $1.3 Trillion, how is that smart?

Obama ran from a press conference and had Clinton speak for him because he's a pussy whipped moron, what school taught him that, Harvard? Columbia? His Indonesia Madrassah?

 

[Bern80]

way to ignore the entire rest of my post and argument...

Your argument is that becae The Obama went to Harvard Law, he is, on that alone, necessarily better qualified to be Predient than Palin.

Hogwash. The Obama's education was -wasted- on HIm.

this argument counselor.

"so why hasnt anyone since Truman been elected president without a college degree? maybe because the general public see the value of a higher education? you point out one anomaly in the last 100 years and all of a sudden that changes everything? and you have a law degree? thats like citing one specific case and claiming it as the only evidence, with the overwhelming majority of evidence claiming the opposite. i think thats a loser in the jury's eyes. "

Or maybe it's mere coincidience and this is just another case of a liberal seeing causality where there isn't any. Again if the guy is so bright, why is he such an economic and policy idiot?

 

[jillian]

Or maybe it's mere coincidience and this is just another case of a liberal seeing causality where there isn't any. Again if the guy is so bright, why is he such an economic and policy idiot?

idiot... oh i dunno.. more of a wuss for giving in to the rightwingnuts on policy and economics.

 

[Common Sense]

Your argument is that becae The Obama went to Harvard Law, he is, on that alone, necessarily better qualified to be Predient than Palin.

Hogwash. The Obama's education was -wasted- on HIm.

this argument counselor.

"so why hasnt anyone since Truman been elected president without a college degree? maybe because the general public see the value of a higher education? you point out one anomaly in the last 100 years and all of a sudden that changes everything? and you have a law degree? thats like citing one specific case and claiming it as the only evidence, with the overwhelming majority of evidence claiming the opposite. i think thats a loser in the jury's eyes. "

Or maybe it's mere coincidience and this is just another case of a liberal seeing causality where there isn't any. Again if the guy is so bright, why is he such an economic and policy idiot?

thats your opinion. many others see it in a much different light (of course these are all terrible ideas)

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protectingcredit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorpsprogram
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

 

[M14 Shooter]

this argument counselor.

Yes. I read it the first time. On its face it is irrelevant, given the nature of the claim in the OP. Further, you're presenting a simple 'appeal to populatiry', a logical fallacy.

Consider, if you can, what the election of RWR over Carter and Mondale does to your premise.

You likely don't have the expereince necessary to understand this, but the fact is that you don't need any notable degree of intelligence to get into Harvard Law, and going to Harvard Law doesn't make you any more intelligent than you were when you entered. Thus, where you went to school doesn't in any way necessitate that you are more/less qualified to be President than anyone else.

 

[logical4u]

this argument counselor.

"so why hasnt anyone since Truman been elected president without a college degree? maybe because the general public see the value of a higher education? you point out one anomaly in the last 100 years and all of a sudden that changes everything? and you have a law degree? thats like citing one specific case and claiming it as the only evidence, with the overwhelming majority of evidence claiming the opposite. i think thats a loser in the jury's eyes. "

Or maybe it's mere coincidience and this is just another case of a liberal seeing causality where there isn't any. Again if the guy is so bright, why is he such an economic and policy idiot?

thats your opinion. many others see it in a much different light (of course these are all terrible ideas)

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protectingcredit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorpsprogram
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

And that has helped the economy, how?
And that has reduced the deficit, how?
And that has helped secure our borders, how?
And that has helped increase freedom, how?


He is a true 'intellect'. He decides what is beneficial, and implements it. When it is proven to be thouroughly useless, he goes on and on about all the work he put into it. Maybe he never took physics, you have to have movement to equal work. Otherwise it is just "force" (that would be the opposite of freedom, BTW).

 

[Common Sense]

this argument counselor.

Yes. I read it the first time. On its face it is irrelevant, given the nature of the claim in the OP. Further, you're presenting a simple 'appeal to populatiry', a logical fallacy.

Consider, if you can, what the election of RWR over Carter and Mondale does to your premise.

You likely don't have the expereince necessary to understand this, but the fact is that you don't need any notable degree of intelligence to get into Harvard Law, and going to Harvard Law doesn't make you any more intelligent than you were when you entered. Thus, where you went to school doesn't in any way necessitate that you are more/less qualified to be Presiden than anyone else.

well Reagan was a military man. should we require that all presidents have served in the active military?

your argument in one of ignorance. and seeing as how the OP has no mention of Truman, Reagan, Carter, or any other president youre using simply to steer the conversation off its original intention. there is no comparison in the post of any of these past presidents. so at least try to stay on top.

by your ridiculous standards, college education has no value in the real world.

"but the fact is that you don't need any notable degree of intelligence to get into Harvard Law"
but you do in fact need an actual degree. which means you will have had to gone to an accredited college or university and graduated. oh and you actually need to do well in school to get in.

Harvard Law School

Applicants accepted: 12.2%
Number of 2006 applicants: 6,810
Number of 2006 matriculants: 558
LSAT range (25 to 75 percentile): 169 to 175
GPA range (25 to 75 percentile): 3.95 to 3.72
Good grades and a high score on the LSAT

Read more: Answers.com - What are the requirements for entering Harvard Law School

You should look at Harvard Law School for exact stats, but I think its around 169- 175 LSAT, 3.75-4.0 GPA. These are just the median (25% to 75% range) but it should give you an idea of where you stand.

Theres also a really good guide on how to get into the law school. Check out the guide in the related links at the bottom of this page titled "How to get into Harvard Law School"

According to harvard.edu: "The applicant must have earned a bachelor's degree from an accredited college or university by August of the year for which they are applying. Said applicant must also have taken and passed the Law School Admission Test (LSAT). Applicants generally rank in top 10% of their college's graduating class in the top 5% of the LSAT. Percentile requirements are sometimes waived as candidates are judged on their overall educational ability/achievements and societal attributes. Approximately 7,000 students apply each year for 550 law school openings."
The most important aspect is to have great grades in school. Harvard wants you to do well in accelerated classes rather than to exceed in regular classes. Consider taking honors or AP classes. If you have anything less than a high "B" average then you have very little chance of getting in.
You also need to do very well on standerdized tests. Make upwards of 1300 on SAT1 or from 30 to 36 on the ACT. Consider taking test prep.
In terms of extracurricular activities quality is better than quantity.

 

[Neser Boha]

Instead of focusing on Obama in this argument, why don't we all focus on Palin for a while? Someone here has already posted a list of her notable 'achievements'.

I'm sorry, but if a guy with a record and education like Obama had a hard time in the office, I can only imagine what it will do with Palin. She'd probably be the first prez to just straight out give up (judging by her record). And that would be a sad moment for women in politics seeing the first female president failing so terribly ... I'm sorry, but if you have half a brain (unless you are a misogynist) you won't vote for her sorry ass. As a woman, I wouldn't want a specimen like her to be the first U.S. female president. But that's totally beside the point.

 

[boedicca]

Wow. For somebody who recently ranted in a thread about people who spend $7 per day on food being Rich, it's fascinating to see CS genuflect at the altar of Ivy League Education Elitism.

Obama's education and job experience prior to becoming president were in a hermetically sealed academic and progressive bubble. He has no real experience in the real world, has never created a real job, never had to meet payroll, never had to comply with the mass of regulations that he and his egghead theoreticians impose on the private sector while exempting themselves.

I'm not a Palin fan, but between the two, she is much more in touch with real America, and would make far better decisions than the Epic Fail performed by Obama.

you and your $7 a day on food. Which i have since proved withing the norms of society.

Palin left Wasilla $20M in debt when she left office
PolitiFact | Numbers right, context missing

She left the state of Alaska with 70% GDP to debt ratio:
Post-Palin Alaska has largest debt burden in US // Current

even the people of her fair city and state think shes a bad politican:
A Wasillan On Sarah Palin - The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan

she actually doesnt make good decisions as evidenced here.

Only $20M of Debt?


That sounds great! Much better than the $Ts Obambi has added.

And now, please explain how Obama's academic and political experience prepared him for the biggest Chief Executive Officer job in the world?

 

[Gunny]

i found this really interesting:

here is Sarah Palin's education:

After graduating from high school, Palin enrolled at the University of Hawaii in Hilo. Shortly after arriving in Hawaii, Palin switched to Hawaii Pacific University for a semester in the fall of 1982 and then North Idaho College in the spring and fall of 1983. She attended the University of Idaho in the fall of 1984 and spring of 1985, and attended Matanuska-Susitna College in the fall of 1985. Palin returned to the University of Idaho in the spring of 1986, receiving her bachelor's degree in communications with an emphasis in journalism in 1987.
After graduating, she worked as a sportscaster for KTUU-TV and KTVA-TV in Anchorage, and as a sports reporter for the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, fulfilling an early ambition.

so to sum it up, she attended 5 (one of them twice) different colleges before getting a Communications degree.

Obama's Education:

Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College.
Later in 1981 he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, and president of the journal in his second year. He graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991

so to sum this one up, starts at Occidental, finishes at Columbia with a degree in political science then graduates magna cum laude with a law degree (J.D.) from harvard.

not to knock the University of Idaho, but it sure as hell isnt Occidental, Columbia or Harvard.

now why do people think she is qualified to be president?????

I woudn't let either lead me to a picnic if I was a freakin' ant. If THAT is our choices, we're fucked.

Caligula, anyone?

 

[Gunny]

It just makes them hate him more.

They dont like higher education and think it rots the brain

You're STILL as stupid as ever.

 

[BlindBoo]

Liar.

Where is the post from a con extolling the greatness of higher education?

Where is the evidence that paying tens of thousands of dollars to an institution for a piece of paper gives you an education?

It's in the paycheck of those who earned the piece of paper. Oh and in most institutions not only do you have to pay but you also have to do the work as well. Not that that ensures you'll be educated, but at least you can put it on your resume.

 

[Common Sense]

And that has helped the economy, how?
And that has reduced the deficit, how?
And that has helped secure our borders, how?
And that has helped increase freedom, how?


He is a true 'intellect'. He decides what is beneficial, and implements it. When it is proven to be thouroughly useless, he goes on and on about all the work he put into it. Maybe he never took physics, you have to have movement to equal work. Otherwise it is just "force" (that would be the opposite of freedom, BTW).

Jobs are up compared to Bush

GDP is up compared to Bush

Deficit is up, although this was started by the stimulus and TARP (both Bush program) -this about the only thing that is of concern to me right now. so i agree he hasnt cut the deficit, although he did not campaign on it either.

where was your deficit outcry from 2000-2008?

How are our boarders less secure? Have we has a major terrorist attack in Obama's watch?
Bush took away more freedoms with the enactment of the Patriot Act than any president in history.

 

[boedicca]

And that has helped the economy, how?
And that has reduced the deficit, how?
And that has helped secure our borders, how?
And that has helped increase freedom, how?


He is a true 'intellect'. He decides what is beneficial, and implements it. When it is proven to be thouroughly useless, he goes on and on about all the work he put into it. Maybe he never took physics, you have to have movement to equal work. Otherwise it is just "force" (that would be the opposite of freedom, BTW).

Jobs are up compared to Bush

GDP is up compared to Bush

Deficit is up, although this was started by the stimulus and TARP (both Bush program) -this about the only thing that is of concern to me right now. so i agree he hasnt cut the deficit, although he did not campaign on it either.

where was your deficit outcry from 2000-2008?

How are our boarders less secure? Have we has a major terrorist attack in Obama's watch?
Bush took away more freedoms with the enactment of the Patriot Act than any president in history.

Uh. Moron.

Your graphs all start after the Dems took over Congress in the 2006 elections.

You also display an incredibly ignorant view of economics.

 

[Common Sense]

Only $20M of Debt?


That sounds great! Much better than the $Ts Obambi has added.

And now, please explain how Obama's academic and political experience prepared him for the biggest Chief Executive Officer job in the world?

Wasilla has a population of 7,028 (City of Wasilla : Wasilla Facts)

That is a debt of $2,845 per person. When she took office the city of $0 debt
She increased spending by 63% in ran up the debt.
The Palindrone Perspective: Under Palin, Wasilla Government Spending And Debt Skyrocketed

sounds like a great plan for the country

if Obama has added the same amount of per person debt to the county. (based on a 307,000,000 population) the debt would have rise $62,629,336,200. thats $62 trillion.

 

[del]

Not to mention, aren't we in the mess we are in thanks to a bunch of "Ivy Leaguers"?

Yep.

But they are the wealthy, I thought you guys think the wealthy are our saviors?

liar

 

[boedicca]

I haven't studied the Wasilla budget in depth (and neither have you, CS) - but this looks like long term infrastructure related debt for a big sports facility. Capital expenditures are often handled with bond debt by states and municipalities.

This is a far different scenario than engaging in Ton-O-Debt for short term consumption, as Obama has done. The only thing he did that is shovel worthy is kill the recovery. It's time to bury that corpse and start over.

 

[boedicca]

Yep.

But they are the wealthy, I thought you guys think the wealthy are our saviors?

liar

She won't understand you.

Allow me to translate into TMese: LAAIR!

 

[Common Sense]

Uh. Moron.

Your graphs all start after the Dems took over Congress in the 2006 elections.

You also display an incredibly ignorant view of economics.

wait i thought it was always the presidents fault? now its congresses fault?

is that better