The Education of Palin vs Obama

wow, this thread blew up on the idea that an ivy league college education and law degree makes you less qualified to be president than a communications degree from public university?

im sure everyone strives to send their children to the University of Idaho instead of Columbia or Harvard.

I think most parents would be happy to get thier kids in and through college.

My daughter is planning on going to Penn State.

In your eyes, that makes her a lesser person, b/c someone else went to an Ivy league college.

And you don't see the arrogance in your fucked up way of thinking?

pfft

Heaven forbid a former enlisted man ran for Office! All that knowledge, training, and know how is meaningless b/c he lacks a degree.

it doesnt make her a lesser person in my eyes at all. Penn State is a good school. but when interviewing with a fortune 500 or similar company right out of college, they tend to look at the school you went to as one of the decision makers in the process. it is not the sole reason why someone does or doesnt get hired. but someone with a 4.0 from Harvard vs. a 4.0 Central Michigan doesnt necessitate the same education. the historic trend leans towards the harvard grad based on grades alone.

dont be mad at me. i didnt make the rules.
 
10 Presidents, 16 Executives Without College Degrees Freedom Arizona
Presidents w/o degrees;

George Washington, served as 1st President of the United States from 1789 to 1797
Andrew Jackson, served as 7th President of the United States from 1829 to 1837
Martin Van Buren, served as 8th President of the United States from 1837 to 1841
William Henry Harrison, served as 9th President of the United States in 1941*
Zachary Taylor, served as 12th President of the United States from 1849 to 1950*
Millard Fillmore, served as 13th President of the United States from 1850 to 1853
Abraham Lincoln, served as 16th President of the United States from 1861 to 1865*
Andrew Johnson, served as 17th President of the United States from 1865 to 1869
Grover Cleveland, served as 24th President of the United States from 1893 to 1897
Harry S. Truman, served as 33rd President of the United States from 1945 to 1953

The top 2 were Founders. Imagine a man being smart enough to be part of creating a country being considered to fucking unedjimuhkated to be President?
 
now why do people think she is qualified to be president????? :cuckoo:
Harry Truman didn't have a degree.
:cuckoo:

he did join the army and served in WW 1. poor eyesight prevented him from applying to West Point. When his high school buddies went off to the state university in 1901, Truman instead enrolled in a local business school, but only lasted a semester. In 1923-25 he took night courses toward a law degree at the Kansas City Law School (now the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law), but dropped out after losing his government job.

hes is the only pres since 1897 to not have a college degree. since this thread is not about truman and how qualified he was to be president, i fail to see your point. and since i did not have the opportunity to vote for him, and im pretty sure no one else on here did, you raised a meaningless argument. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
wow, this thread blew up on the idea that an ivy league college education and law degree makes you less qualified to be president than a communications degree from public university?

im sure everyone strives to send their children to the University of Idaho instead of Columbia or Harvard.

I think most parents would be happy to get thier kids in and through college.

My daughter is planning on going to Penn State.

In your eyes, that makes her a lesser person, b/c someone else went to an Ivy league college.

And you don't see the arrogance in your fucked up way of thinking?

pfft

Heaven forbid a former enlisted man ran for Office! All that knowledge, training, and know how is meaningless b/c he lacks a degree.

it doesnt make her a lesser person in my eyes at all. Penn State is a good school. but when interviewing with a fortune 500 or similar company right out of college, they tend to look at the school you went to as one of the decision makers in the process. it is not the sole reason why someone does or doesnt get hired. but someone with a 4.0 from Harvard vs. a 4.0 Central Michigan doesnt necessitate the same education. the historic trend leans towards the harvard grad based on grades alone.

dont be mad at me. i didnt make the rules.

Your annoying, I'm not angry, just annoyed. That you discredit or don't consider life being a part of learning.

What did Obama do that made him so qualified?
 
There you go Cali

But, he has a point. A degree is one part of education... it does not make one person better than or smarter than another. I view education as a life long process... I learn shit all the time. It didn't stop when I left University.

I am one of those cons that you constantly refer to. I am college educated, have a Masters, and still learning. You get your ass kicked because you constantly lie about 'cons'. Idiot. Go get one lie

And... for the record... I know many people who have not been to college. And they are pretty smart people... they just chose a different road. Why do you constantly have to dismiss anyone who chooses a different path? Perhaps if you showed a little less arrogance and stopped ridiculing anyone who doesn't fit within your world view, you would develop a better understanding of people. Or... you could just carry on lying and labeling everyone who disagrees with you as a 'liar'.

I never said what you claimed I said.

I did NOT say I dismiss anyone who was uneducated?

I didnt did I.

Now we have an example of ANOTHER lie by you.

Here's one;

"They dont care about facts they only care about political party politics. "
 
10 Presidents, 16 Executives Without College Degrees Freedom Arizona
Presidents w/o degrees;

George Washington, served as 1st President of the United States from 1789 to 1797
Andrew Jackson, served as 7th President of the United States from 1829 to 1837
Martin Van Buren, served as 8th President of the United States from 1837 to 1841
William Henry Harrison, served as 9th President of the United States in 1941*
Zachary Taylor, served as 12th President of the United States from 1849 to 1950*
Millard Fillmore, served as 13th President of the United States from 1850 to 1853
Abraham Lincoln, served as 16th President of the United States from 1861 to 1865*
Andrew Johnson, served as 17th President of the United States from 1865 to 1869
Grover Cleveland, served as 24th President of the United States from 1893 to 1897
Harry S. Truman, served as 33rd President of the United States from 1945 to 1953

The top 2 were Founders. Imagine a man being smart enough to be part of creating a country being considered to fucking unedjimuhkated to be President?

really you just posted 9 guys who lived prior to 1900. when many people didnt even get a primary school education, let alone a high school one or college one. seeing how the world has changed in the last 150-200 years, you might want to rethink your statement.
 
i found this really interesting:

here is Sarah Palin's education:

After graduating from high school, Palin enrolled at the University of Hawaii in Hilo. Shortly after arriving in Hawaii, Palin switched to Hawaii Pacific University for a semester in the fall of 1982 and then North Idaho College in the spring and fall of 1983. She attended the University of Idaho in the fall of 1984 and spring of 1985, and attended Matanuska-Susitna College in the fall of 1985. Palin returned to the University of Idaho in the spring of 1986, receiving her bachelor's degree in communications with an emphasis in journalism in 1987.
After graduating, she worked as a sportscaster for KTUU-TV and KTVA-TV in Anchorage, and as a sports reporter for the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, fulfilling an early ambition.

so to sum it up, she attended 5 (one of them twice) different colleges before getting a Communications degree.

Obama's Education:

Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College.
Later in 1981 he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, and president of the journal in his second year. He graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991

so to sum this one up, starts at Occidental, finishes at Columbia with a degree in political science then graduates magna cum laude with a law degree (J.D.) from harvard.

not to knock the University of Idaho, but it sure as hell isnt Occidental, Columbia or Harvard.

now why do people think she is qualified to be president????? :cuckoo:

What do you think qualifies a person to bve President? I'm no Palin fan, hope she doesn't run and if she does, hope she loses. But to say she's not qualified is moronic...

US Constitution, Article II, Section 1:

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.


Christ, that makes millions of Americans qualified. Fuckwit.
 
I think most parents would be happy to get thier kids in and through college.

My daughter is planning on going to Penn State.

In your eyes, that makes her a lesser person, b/c someone else went to an Ivy league college.

And you don't see the arrogance in your fucked up way of thinking?

pfft

Heaven forbid a former enlisted man ran for Office! All that knowledge, training, and know how is meaningless b/c he lacks a degree.

it doesnt make her a lesser person in my eyes at all. Penn State is a good school. but when interviewing with a fortune 500 or similar company right out of college, they tend to look at the school you went to as one of the decision makers in the process. it is not the sole reason why someone does or doesnt get hired. but someone with a 4.0 from Harvard vs. a 4.0 Central Michigan doesnt necessitate the same education. the historic trend leans towards the harvard grad based on grades alone.

dont be mad at me. i didnt make the rules.

Your annoying, I'm not angry, just annoyed. That you discredit or don't consider life being a part of learning.

What did Obama do that made him so qualified?

wikipedia is good for some things.....


After four years in New York City, Obama was hired in Chicago as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side. He worked there as a community organizer from June 1985 to May 1988.[32][34] During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from one to thirteen and its annual budget grew from US$70,000 ($142,911 in 2010) to US$400,000 ($742,647 in 2010). He helped set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.[35] Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community organizing institute.[36] In mid-1988, he traveled for the first time in Europe for three weeks and then for five weeks in Kenya, where he met many of his paternal relatives for the first time.[37] He returned in August 2006 for a visit to his father's birthplace, a village near Kisumu in rural western Kenya.[38]
In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year,[39] and president of the journal in his second year.[40] During his summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked as a summer associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.[41] After graduating with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude[42] from Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago.[39] Obama's election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review gained national media attention[40] and led to a publishing contract and advance for a book about race relations,[43] which evolved into a personal memoir. The manuscript was published in mid-1995 as Dreams from My Father.[43]
University of Chicago Law School and civil rights attorney
In 1991, Obama accepted a two-year position as Visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School to work on his first book.[44] He then served as a professor at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years—as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004—teaching constitutional law.[45]
From April to October 1992, Obama directed Illinois's Project Vote, a voter registration drive with ten staffers and seven hundred volunteer registrars; it achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, and led to Crain's Chicago Business naming Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.[46] In 1993 he joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 13-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[47]
From 1994 to 2002, Obama served on the boards of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund the Developing Communities Project, and of the Joyce Foundation.[32] He served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995 to 2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995 to 1999.[32]
Legislative career: 1997–2008

State Senator: 1997–2004
Main article: Illinois Senate career of Barack Obama
Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996, succeeding State Senator Alice Palmer as Senator from Illinois's 13th District, which at that time spanned Chicago South Side neighborhoods from Hyde Park – Kenwood south to South Shore and west to Chicago Lawn.[48] Once elected, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[49] He sponsored a law increasing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.[50] In 2001, as co-chairman of the bipartisan Joint Committee on Administrative Rules, Obama supported Republican Governor Ryan's payday loan regulations and predatory mortgage lending regulations aimed at averting home foreclosures.[51]
Obama was reelected to the Illinois Senate in 1998, defeating Republican Yesse Yehudah in the general election, and was reelected again in 2002.[52] In 2000, he lost a Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives to four-term incumbent Bobby Rush by a margin of two to one.[53]
In January 2003, Obama became chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee when Democrats, after a decade in the minority, regained a majority.[54] He sponsored and led unanimous, bipartisan passage of legislation to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they detained, and legislation making Illinois the first state to mandate videotaping of homicide interrogations.[50][55] During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.[56] Obama resigned from the Illinois Senate in November 2004 following his election to the U.S. Senate.[57]
U.S. Senate campaign
See also: United States Senate election in Illinois, 2004
In May 2002, Obama commissioned a poll to assess his prospects in a 2004 U.S. Senate race; he created a campaign committee, began raising funds and lined up political media consultant David Axelrod by August 2002, and formally announced his candidacy in January 2003.[58]
Obama was an early opponent of the George W. Bush administration's 2003 invasion of Iraq.[59] On October 2, 2002, the day President Bush and Congress agreed on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War,[60] Obama addressed the first high-profile Chicago anti-Iraq War rally,[61] and spoke out against the war.[62] He addressed another anti-war rally in March 2003 and told the crowd that "it's not too late" to stop the war.[63]
Decisions by Republican incumbent Peter Fitzgerald and his Democratic predecessor Carol Moseley Braun not to contest the race resulted in wide-open Democratic and Republican primary contests involving fifteen candidates.[64] In the March 2004 primary election, Obama won in an unexpected landslide—which overnight made him a rising star within the national Democratic Party, started speculation about a presidential future, and led to the reissue of his memoir, Dreams from My Father.[65]
In July 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston, Massachusetts,[66] and it was seen by 9.1 million viewers. His speech was well received and elevated his status within the Democratic Party.[67]
Obama's expected opponent in the general election, Republican primary winner Jack Ryan, withdrew from the race in June 2004.[68] Six weeks later, Alan Keyes accepted the Illinois Republican Party's nomination to replace Ryan.[69] In the November 2004 general election, Obama won with 70% of the vote.[70]
U.S. Senator: 2005–2008
Main article: United States Senate career of Barack Obama


Obama delivering a speech at the University of Southern California, on October 28, 2006.
Obama was sworn in as a senator on January 4, 2005,[71] at which time he became the only Senate member of the Congressional Black Caucus.[72] CQ Weekly characterized him as a "loyal Democrat" based on analysis of all Senate votes in 2005–2007. The National Journal ranked him among the "most liberal" senators during 2005 through 2007[73] (the ranking has been criticized by liberal groups such as Media Matters for America[74][75]). He enjoyed high popularity as senator with a 72% approval in Illinois.[76] Obama announced on November 13, 2008, that he would resign his Senate seat on November 16, 2008, before the start of the lame-duck session, to focus on his transition period for the presidency.[77]
Legislation
See also: List of bills sponsored by Barack Obama in the United States Senate

Senate bill sponsors Tom Coburn (R-OK) and Obama discussing the Coburn–Obama Transparency Act[78]
Obama cosponsored the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act.[79] He introduced two initiatives bearing his name: Lugar–Obama, which expanded the Nunn–Lugar cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons,[80] and the Coburn–Obama Transparency Act, which authorized the establishment of USAspending.gov, a web search engine on federal spending.[81] On June 3, 2008, Senator Obama, along with Senators Tom Carper, Tom Coburn, and John McCain, introduced follow-up legislation: Strengthening Transparency and Accountability in Federal Spending Act of 2008.[82]
Obama sponsored legislation that would have required nuclear plant owners to notify state and local authorities of radioactive leaks, but the bill failed to pass in the full Senate after being heavily modified in committee.[83] Regarding tort reform, Obama voted for the Class Action Fairness Act of 2005 and the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, which grants immunity from civil liability to telecommunications companies complicit with NSA warrantless wiretapping operations.[84]

Obama and U.S. Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) visit a Russian mobile launch missile dismantling facility in August 2005.[85]
In December 2006, President Bush signed into law the Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act, marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor.[86] In January 2007, Obama and Senator Feingold introduced a corporate jet provision to the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, which was signed into law in September 2007.[87] Obama also introduced Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections,[88] and the Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007,[89] neither of which has been signed into law.
Later in 2007, Obama sponsored an amendment to the Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges.[90] This amendment passed the full Senate in the spring of 2008.[91] He sponsored the Iran Sanctions Enabling Act supporting divestment of state pension funds from Iran's oil and gas industry, which has not passed committee, and co-sponsored legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.[92] Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program providing one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries.[93]
Committees
Obama held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006.[94] In January 2007, he left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.[95] He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs.[96] As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. He met with Mahmoud Abbas before Abbas became President of the Palestinian Authority, and gave a speech at the University of Nairobi condemning corruption within the Kenyan government.[97]
 
i found this really interesting:

here is Sarah Palin's education:

After graduating from high school, Palin enrolled at the University of Hawaii in Hilo. Shortly after arriving in Hawaii, Palin switched to Hawaii Pacific University for a semester in the fall of 1982 and then North Idaho College in the spring and fall of 1983. She attended the University of Idaho in the fall of 1984 and spring of 1985, and attended Matanuska-Susitna College in the fall of 1985. Palin returned to the University of Idaho in the spring of 1986, receiving her bachelor's degree in communications with an emphasis in journalism in 1987.
After graduating, she worked as a sportscaster for KTUU-TV and KTVA-TV in Anchorage, and as a sports reporter for the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, fulfilling an early ambition.

so to sum it up, she attended 5 (one of them twice) different colleges before getting a Communications degree.

Obama's Education:

Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College.
Later in 1981 he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, and president of the journal in his second year. He graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991

so to sum this one up, starts at Occidental, finishes at Columbia with a degree in political science then graduates magna cum laude with a law degree (J.D.) from harvard.

not to knock the University of Idaho, but it sure as hell isnt Occidental, Columbia or Harvard.

now why do people think she is qualified to be president????? :cuckoo:

What do you think qualifies a person to bve President? I'm no Palin fan, hope she doesn't run and if she does, hope she loses. But to say she's not qualified is moronic...

US Constitution, Article II, Section 1:

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.


Christ, that makes millions of Americans qualified. Fuckwit.

no it makes them eligible, not necessarily qualified.
 
10 Presidents, 16 Executives Without College Degrees Freedom Arizona
Presidents w/o degrees;

George Washington, served as 1st President of the United States from 1789 to 1797
Andrew Jackson, served as 7th President of the United States from 1829 to 1837
Martin Van Buren, served as 8th President of the United States from 1837 to 1841
William Henry Harrison, served as 9th President of the United States in 1941*
Zachary Taylor, served as 12th President of the United States from 1849 to 1950*
Millard Fillmore, served as 13th President of the United States from 1850 to 1853
Abraham Lincoln, served as 16th President of the United States from 1861 to 1865*
Andrew Johnson, served as 17th President of the United States from 1865 to 1869
Grover Cleveland, served as 24th President of the United States from 1893 to 1897
Harry S. Truman, served as 33rd President of the United States from 1945 to 1953

The top 2 were Founders. Imagine a man being smart enough to be part of creating a country being considered to fucking unedjimuhkated to be President?

really you just posted 9 guys who lived prior to 1900. when many people didnt even get a primary school education, let alone a high school one or college one. seeing how the world has changed in the last 150-200 years, you might want to rethink your statement.

Which pretty much lays to rest the idiotic premise that without formal schooling from an Ivy League institution you are an unqualified dolt.

My father never graduated HS, yet became a CW3 in the U.S. Army specializing in radar and communications. He was also a pilot. Was one of the most well read guys you'd ever want to meet.
 
hes is the only pres since 1897 to not have a college degree. since this thread is not about truman and how qualified he was to be president, i fail to see your point.
The OBVIOUS point - to anyone with any degree of common sense - is that college education, regardless of source, does not qualify/disqualify you to be President, and so try to arge that The Obama's education automatically makes Him incomparably superior to Palin, in terms of qualification to be President, is, at best, laughable.

The Obama is no better-educated than I am; despite His access to information I don't have, His grasp of the world is inferior to mine, and He's one of the most uncreative and unimaginative people I can think of. His education, as lordly as YOU may think it is, hasn't helped Him any of of this - one might even say it was lost on Him..
 
hes is the only pres since 1897 to not have a college degree. since this thread is not about truman and how qualified he was to be president, i fail to see your point.
The OBVIOUS point - to anyone with any degree of common sense - is that college education, regardless of source, does not qualify/disqualify you to be President, and so try to arge that The Obama's education automatically makes Him incomparably superior to Palin, in terms of qualification to be President, is, at best, laughable.

The Obama is no better-educated than I am; despite His access to information I don't have, His grasp of the world is inferior to mine, and He's one of the most uncreative and unimaginative people I can think of. His education, as lordly as YOU may think it is, hasn't helped Him any of of this - one might even say it was lost on Him..

ohhh so the education during the 1930's is the exact same as in 1980? because the majority of people went to college in the 30's.

M14, so you have a undergrad and a law degree? so you can practice law? if you answer no to these two questions, that you are not better educated than the president.

and yes Obama is more educated than Palin. if they were being interviewed by a private company for the same job, Obama's credentials by far overshadow Palin's
 
Didn't read the OP

Plenty of people never go to college and have a better grasp of things than many people with plenty of degrees from expensive schools

Hell, dubbya bought an ivy-league diploma
 
i found this really interesting:

here is Sarah Palin's education:

After graduating from high school, Palin enrolled at the University of Hawaii in Hilo. Shortly after arriving in Hawaii, Palin switched to Hawaii Pacific University for a semester in the fall of 1982 and then North Idaho College in the spring and fall of 1983. She attended the University of Idaho in the fall of 1984 and spring of 1985, and attended Matanuska-Susitna College in the fall of 1985. Palin returned to the University of Idaho in the spring of 1986, receiving her bachelor's degree in communications with an emphasis in journalism in 1987.
After graduating, she worked as a sportscaster for KTUU-TV and KTVA-TV in Anchorage, and as a sports reporter for the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, fulfilling an early ambition.

so to sum it up, she attended 5 (one of them twice) different colleges before getting a Communications degree.

Obama's Education:

Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College.
Later in 1981 he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, and president of the journal in his second year. He graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991

so to sum this one up, starts at Occidental, finishes at Columbia with a degree in political science then graduates magna cum laude with a law degree (J.D.) from harvard.

not to knock the University of Idaho, but it sure as hell isnt Occidental, Columbia or Harvard.

now why do people think she is qualified to be president????? :cuckoo:

What do you think qualifies a person to bve President? I'm no Palin fan, hope she doesn't run and if she does, hope she loses. But to say she's not qualified is moronic...

US Constitution, Article II, Section 1:

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.


Christ, that makes millions of Americans qualified. Fuckwit.

no it makes them eligible, not necessarily qualified.

No, it makes them qualified as well. Those are the only requirements a person must meet to be President. There are no stipulations to education, experience, or breeding, nothing but the list above. It is the sheeple of this country who blindly follow their devotion to their chosen party who have made more of the qualifications than need be. I'd vote for someone who exhibited a fraction common sense before I would any of the political hacks we have today. But hey, you just keep falling for the partisan bullshit, keep believing your team has all the answers and the other is evil. It's gotten us this far...
 
Didn't read the OP

Plenty of people never go to college and have a better grasp of things than many people with plenty of degrees from expensive schools

Hell, dubbya bought an ivy-league diploma

well read the original post and then formulate en educated answer. :clap2:

i already said W was qualified to be president, but i didnt necessarily agree with his policies. there is a difference.

McCain was qualified to be president also, but he didnt win.

so tell me then, why do people go to college just to get this magical piece of paper? oh thats right because it holds value in the working world. it gets you in the door and in front of the people who run companies.

no fortune 500 will hire a 22 year old kid without a college degree over someone with one. the only time this could conceivably happen is if that 22 year old was in the military. (which is an education in its own right)
 
ohhh so the education during the 1930's is the exact same as in 1980? because the majority of people went to college in the 30's.
Irrelevant to the point that the the specifics one someone's education in no way inherently qualifies/disqualifies someone to be President.

M14, so you have a undergrad and a law degree? so you can practice law? if you answer no to these two questions, that you are not better educated than the president.
I am indeed better educated in that I have both, and more.
Note also that having a law degree doesnt necessarily mean that you can practice law.

and yes Obama is more educated than Palin.
Which, as you apparently simply refuse to believe, is meaningless.
As I said:
His education, as lordly as YOU may think it is, hasn't helped Him - one might even say it was lost on Him..
 

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