The DNC attack on Limbaugh may backfire.

[KittenKoder]

Let me state this, I'm an Independent. Democrats, and Republicans have both lost their way with the people they're suppose to be representing. Both parties have gone too far to the left. Rush is preaching "CONSERVATISM". He's not towing the line for any party. he just wants us to get back to conservative values. This I think, is what Obama fears the most. I just don't understand how blinded the left have become on the reality of where this president is taking us. Maybe they do understand...but, it won't be the America we all grew up in. We will no longer afford to be the super power we are today.

And pick a side for god sakes. Independents are under informed voters.

No, fence sitters are "under informed". Independents are often "over informed", which is why we don't pick sides, we pick candidates.

 

[Sinatra]

Let me state this, I'm an Independent. Democrats, and Republicans have both lost their way with the people they're suppose to be representing. Both parties have gone too far to the left. Rush is preaching "CONSERVATISM". He's not towing the line for any party. he just wants us to get back to conservative values. This I think, is what Obama fears the most. I just don't understand how blinded the left have become on the reality of where this president is taking us. Maybe they do understand...but, it won't be the America we all grew up in. We will no longer afford to be the super power we are today.

And pick a side for god sakes. Independents are under informed voters.

No, fence sitters are "under informed". Independents are often "over informed", which is why we don't pick sides, we pick candidates.

Sadly, your own example is the rule to the exception in our country. While I do not always agree with all of your posts, (though some are spot on) you clearly have a good working knowledge of current events, and I wish more were like you - be they Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, Independent, etc.

A less partisan and more educated population would do much to improve politics as a whole.

 

[Meister]

Let me state this, I'm an Independent. Democrats, and Republicans have both lost their way with the people they're suppose to be representing. Both parties have gone too far to the left. Rush is preaching "CONSERVATISM". He's not towing the line for any party. he just wants us to get back to conservative values. This I think, is what Obama fears the most. I just don't understand how blinded the left have become on the reality of where this president is taking us. Maybe they do understand...but, it won't be the America we all grew up in. We will no longer afford to be the super power we are today.

If you need help figuring it out, you are a Republican.

If you think the GOP failed because they moved too much to the left, you are crazy.

Dems are not the deregulators. Dems didn't protect the oil companies when they gouged us. Dems didn't send jobs overseas, unless you want to say Clinton signed NAFTA/CAFTA. Do you even realize what Chaney did to our energy policy? Can you say Enron?

Yes Dems tax and spend. That's because you got to pay for what you buy. You don't realize Bush borrowed all of the Iraq war from China. And we should have never invaded anyways.

Do you think running a country is free? Did you really think the GOP would not spend? The broke pork records in 06 and 07. And they did all this while giving rich people tax breaks. So the burden falls more on you/your grandkids.

So you don't like Dems spend on welfare but you let the GOP bankrupt the treasury on war spending/defense spending? Forget half of that spending that is for our safety. What about the other half that the GOP squandered?

And instead of Iraq oil paying for the war, we give all that oil to Ray Hunt, Bush's oil buddy. And let the American tax payers pick up the tab. Socialize the losses and privatize the profits is the GOP way.

You got to be kidding me.

Hey idiot...you show me one fucking political commission that stated the oil companies were gouging. You can't find one. The dems have tried to prove over and over that there was gouging...they came away empty handed. Your a liar.
Yes the republicans have moved to the left, look at all the spending that was going on under the Bush adminstration. They deserted the conservative values. Your a liar.
Your Bill Clinton signed the NAFTA agreement, it was a democratic thing. Your a liar.
Like I said about spending earlier, republicans spent too much, that's why they got beat.
With your oil scenario, the democrats could have intervened before the papers were signed, they did nothing afterward. Reading about it, it seems good for the US, and to iraq, I guess this is whats called........wait for it...."capitalizim,"
Idiot....yesterday i kept it civil, and asked you do the same...you can't do it, because you are an idiot. Having said that...I have voted democrat, and republican, but I'm not a fucking socialist like yourself. So yeah I did vot republican. You loon

 

[sealybobo]

And pick a side for god sakes. Independents are under informed voters.

No, fence sitters are "under informed". Independents are often "over informed", which is why we don't pick sides, we pick candidates.

Sadly, your own example is the rule to the exception in our country. While I do not always agree with all of your posts, (though some are spot on) you clearly have a good working knowledge of current events, and I wish more were like you - be they Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, Independent, etc.

A less partisan and more educated population would do much to improve politics as a whole.

Sure it would, in a perfect world dude. But it doesn't work that way.

In case you didn't notice, the Dems tried it your way for about 8 years and they kept getting their asses handed to them.

And I bet you voted against Gore/Kerry because they "just didn't seem strong on national security".

So mission accomplished for the GOP who are used to being on offense. We got them on their heels, so don't expect us to stop.

You might even respect us more in 2010 and vote for us for a fucking change.

So until you start voting Democratic, shut up! You just want us to be pussies.

You like it when Rush does it, but you don't like it when we fight back. Deal with it. And vote for whoever you want. If you are still undecided, you are an idiot.

 

[elvis]

No, fence sitters are "under informed". Independents are often "over informed", which is why we don't pick sides, we pick candidates.

Sadly, your own example is the rule to the exception in our country. While I do not always agree with all of your posts, (though some are spot on) you clearly have a good working knowledge of current events, and I wish more were like you - be they Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, Independent, etc.

A less partisan and more educated population would do much to improve politics as a whole.

Sure it would, in a perfect world dude. But it doesn't work that way.

In case you didn't notice, the Dems tried it your way for about 8 years and they kept getting their asses handed to them.

And I bet you voted against Gore/Kerry because they "just didn't seem strong on national security".

So mission accomplished for the GOP who are used to being on offense. We got them on their heels, so don't expect us to stop.

You might even respect us more in 2010 and vote for us for a fucking change.

So until you start voting Democratic, shut up! You just want us to be pussies.

You like it when Rush does it, but you don't like it when we fight back. Deal with it. And vote for whoever you want. If you are still undecided, you are an idiot.

and to paraphrase something you said yesterday, you must swallow everything MICHAEL MOORE ejaculates.

 

[sealybobo]

Let me state this, I'm an Independent. Democrats, and Republicans have both lost their way with the people they're suppose to be representing. Both parties have gone too far to the left. Rush is preaching "CONSERVATISM". He's not towing the line for any party. he just wants us to get back to conservative values. This I think, is what Obama fears the most. I just don't understand how blinded the left have become on the reality of where this president is taking us. Maybe they do understand...but, it won't be the America we all grew up in. We will no longer afford to be the super power we are today.

If you need help figuring it out, you are a Republican.

If you think the GOP failed because they moved too much to the left, you are crazy.

Dems are not the deregulators. Dems didn't protect the oil companies when they gouged us. Dems didn't send jobs overseas, unless you want to say Clinton signed NAFTA/CAFTA. Do you even realize what Chaney did to our energy policy? Can you say Enron?

Yes Dems tax and spend. That's because you got to pay for what you buy. You don't realize Bush borrowed all of the Iraq war from China. And we should have never invaded anyways.

Do you think running a country is free? Did you really think the GOP would not spend? The broke pork records in 06 and 07. And they did all this while giving rich people tax breaks. So the burden falls more on you/your grandkids.

So you don't like Dems spend on welfare but you let the GOP bankrupt the treasury on war spending/defense spending? Forget half of that spending that is for our safety. What about the other half that the GOP squandered?

And instead of Iraq oil paying for the war, we give all that oil to Ray Hunt, Bush's oil buddy. And let the American tax payers pick up the tab. Socialize the losses and privatize the profits is the GOP way.

You got to be kidding me.

Hey idiot...you show me one fucking political commission that stated the oil companies were gouging. You can't find one. The dems have tried to prove over and over that there was gouging...they came away empty handed. Your a liar.
Yes the republicans have moved to the left, look at all the spending that was going on under the Bush adminstration. They deserted the conservative values. Your a liar.
Your Bill Clinton signed the NAFTA agreement, it was a democratic thing. Your a liar.
Like I said about spending earlier, republicans spent too much, that's why they got beat.
With your oil scenario, the democrats could have intervened before the papers were signed, they did nothing afterward. Reading about it, it seems good for the US, and to iraq, I guess this is whats called........wait for it...."capitalizim,"
Idiot....yesterday i kept it civil, and asked you do the same...you can't do it, because you are an idiot. Having said that...I have voted democrat, and republican, but I'm not a fucking socialist like yourself. So yeah I did vot republican. You loon

Newsflash! The GOP has never been conservative. They talk a good talk but every time they have ever been given a chance, they spent EVEN MORE MONEY than the Dems. But every election they talk a good game. You must be referring to their campaign promises to be conservative/fiscally responsible. If you still believe that if you put them back in charge that they will do the right thing, then I'll stop wasting my time trying to convince you of anything.

And of course the oil companies gouged us, just like the phone companies spied on us. You don't doubt that one anymore, right? Know why? Because the Dems share the blame on that one. But you won't admit that under Bush, the oil companies gouged us? That's because blame would fall 100% on him!!!! His appointees, his federal prosecutors, etc.

When were they ever conservative? Reagan doubled the debt too. Reagan borrowed his way out of a recession and borrowed his way into bankrupting the soviets. Who do you think loaned all those countries that border Russia all the money to go capitalism? We did.

So you just don't like spending inside America on Americans. Specifically poor Americans. That's fine. We just disagree. And we won the election.

America does not want to go back to the old way where the GOP doubles the debt and fucks up the economy.

And you GOPers say we can never go back to the way things were in the 90's. That's because you don't like middle class Americans being successful. You like it better when a few get rich and the rest fall further into debt. Your party ruined the middle class.

OMG, you are making me ramble. YOu are so wrong it sickens me. The GOP got their asses handed to them. They REFUSED to change even after losing elections. Now they have zero power, and they'll promise/say anything to you. And you are so gullable, you'll fall for it. Amazing!!!

 

[sealybobo]

Sadly, your own example is the rule to the exception in our country. While I do not always agree with all of your posts, (though some are spot on) you clearly have a good working knowledge of current events, and I wish more were like you - be they Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, Independent, etc.

A less partisan and more educated population would do much to improve politics as a whole.

Sure it would, in a perfect world dude. But it doesn't work that way.

In case you didn't notice, the Dems tried it your way for about 8 years and they kept getting their asses handed to them.

And I bet you voted against Gore/Kerry because they "just didn't seem strong on national security".

So mission accomplished for the GOP who are used to being on offense. We got them on their heels, so don't expect us to stop.

You might even respect us more in 2010 and vote for us for a fucking change.

So until you start voting Democratic, shut up! You just want us to be pussies.

You like it when Rush does it, but you don't like it when we fight back. Deal with it. And vote for whoever you want. If you are still undecided, you are an idiot.

and to paraphrase something you said yesterday, you must swallow everything MICHAEL MOORE ejaculates.

I love Michael Moore, Al Franken and every other person you right wingers demonize. They speak the truth and that's why you bash them so hard. They are better than Rush, O'reilly, Hannity, Savage. My guys tell on your rich guys when they break the law and hurt America. Your guys demonize my guys and defend the corporations while they ruin the middle class.

Because the real culprits are Chaney, Abramoff, Rove, Delay, Wolfowitz, Paulson, Boehner, Libby, Graham, Dole, McCain, Craig, Vetter, Foley, etc.

 

[elvis]

Sure it would, in a perfect world dude. But it doesn't work that way.

In case you didn't notice, the Dems tried it your way for about 8 years and they kept getting their asses handed to them.

And I bet you voted against Gore/Kerry because they "just didn't seem strong on national security".

So mission accomplished for the GOP who are used to being on offense. We got them on their heels, so don't expect us to stop.

You might even respect us more in 2010 and vote for us for a fucking change.

So until you start voting Democratic, shut up! You just want us to be pussies.

You like it when Rush does it, but you don't like it when we fight back. Deal with it. And vote for whoever you want. If you are still undecided, you are an idiot.

and to paraphrase something you said yesterday, you must swallow everything MICHAEL MOORE ejaculates.

I love Michael Moore, Al Franken and every other person you right wingers demonize. They speak the truth and that's why you bash them so hard. They are better than Rush, O'reilly, Hannity, Savage. My guys tell on your rich guys when they break the law and hurt America. Your guys demonize my guys and defend the corporations while they ruin the middle class.

Because the real culprits are Chaney, Abramoff, Rove, Delay, Wolfowitz, Paulson, Boehner, Libby, Graham, Dole, McCain, Craig, Vetter, Foley, etc.

all those guys KNEW 9/11 was coming and did nothing to stop it, is that true?

 

[Meister]

Sure it would, in a perfect world dude. But it doesn't work that way.

In case you didn't notice, the Dems tried it your way for about 8 years and they kept getting their asses handed to them.

And I bet you voted against Gore/Kerry because they "just didn't seem strong on national security".

So mission accomplished for the GOP who are used to being on offense. We got them on their heels, so don't expect us to stop.

You might even respect us more in 2010 and vote for us for a fucking change.

So until you start voting Democratic, shut up! You just want us to be pussies.

You like it when Rush does it, but you don't like it when we fight back. Deal with it. And vote for whoever you want. If you are still undecided, you are an idiot.

and to paraphrase something you said yesterday, you must swallow everything MICHAEL MOORE ejaculates.

I love Michael Moore, Al Franken and every other person you right wingers demonize. They speak the truth and that's why you bash them so hard. They are better than Rush, O'reilly, Hannity, Savage. My guys tell on your rich guys when they break the law and hurt America. Your guys demonize my guys and defend the corporations while they ruin the middle class.

Because the real culprits are Chaney, Abramoff, Rove, Delay, Wolfowitz, Paulson, Boehner, Libby, Graham, Dole, McCain, Craig, Vetter, Foley, etc.

I may wake up tomorrow and think I'm a democrat..after your BS...not. but, your going to wake up tomorrow and still be an idiot.

 

[sealybobo]

and to paraphrase something you said yesterday, you must swallow everything MICHAEL MOORE ejaculates.

I love Michael Moore, Al Franken and every other person you right wingers demonize. They speak the truth and that's why you bash them so hard. They are better than Rush, O'reilly, Hannity, Savage. My guys tell on your rich guys when they break the law and hurt America. Your guys demonize my guys and defend the corporations while they ruin the middle class.

Because the real culprits are Chaney, Abramoff, Rove, Delay, Wolfowitz, Paulson, Boehner, Libby, Graham, Dole, McCain, Craig, Vetter, Foley, etc.

all those guys KNEW 9/11 was coming and did nothing to stop it, is that true?

All the members of PNAC

PNAC Neo-Con Artists

 

[AllieBaba]

Booboo,you are a sad, deluded little thing, aren't you? You are the product of brain washing. I didn't think it occurred in the US, but apparently it does and I blame your parents. They should have been paying more attention.

And it's a cautionary tale to anyone who raises their children to be lefties (or who just ignores their kids and lets them raise themselves on the internet) that if you want your child to be an independent, free thinker, you'd better be paying some attention to their "lie-o-meters" and teach them a little bit about discernment, the difference between fact and fiction, and how to determine when they're being taken for a ride.

My kids can sniff out a lie a mile away. Booboo does not have this capability. I predict a long, sad life full of disappointment and multiple frauds, of which he is the victim. You know, those seedy roofers that say they'll replace your roof for $3000, get the $$ up front, tear off your roof and then disappear?

 

[elvis]

I love Michael Moore, Al Franken and every other person you right wingers demonize. They speak the truth and that's why you bash them so hard. They are better than Rush, O'reilly, Hannity, Savage. My guys tell on your rich guys when they break the law and hurt America. Your guys demonize my guys and defend the corporations while they ruin the middle class.

Because the real culprits are Chaney, Abramoff, Rove, Delay, Wolfowitz, Paulson, Boehner, Libby, Graham, Dole, McCain, Craig, Vetter, Foley, etc.

all those guys KNEW 9/11 was coming and did nothing to stop it, is that true?

All the members of PNAC

PNAC Neo-Con Artists

I know the members of PNAC. I know the theory. I know it's based off the book "The Grand Chessboard", written by Zgbiniew Brzinski (who inadvertently created al qaeda and happens to work for Obama now). That doesn't PROVE that Bush and Cheney knew 9/11 was going to happen and did nothing to stop it.

 

[sealybobo]

Let me state this, I'm an Independent. Democrats, and Republicans have both lost their way with the people they're suppose to be representing. Both parties have gone too far to the left. Rush is preaching "CONSERVATISM". He's not towing the line for any party. he just wants us to get back to conservative values. This I think, is what Obama fears the most. I just don't understand how blinded the left have become on the reality of where this president is taking us. Maybe they do understand...but, it won't be the America we all grew up in. We will no longer afford to be the super power we are today.

If you need help figuring it out, you are a Republican.

If you think the GOP failed because they moved too much to the left, you are crazy.

Dems are not the deregulators. Dems didn't protect the oil companies when they gouged us. Dems didn't send jobs overseas, unless you want to say Clinton signed NAFTA/CAFTA. Do you even realize what Chaney did to our energy policy? Can you say Enron?

Yes Dems tax and spend. That's because you got to pay for what you buy. You don't realize Bush borrowed all of the Iraq war from China. And we should have never invaded anyways.

Do you think running a country is free? Did you really think the GOP would not spend? The broke pork records in 06 and 07. And they did all this while giving rich people tax breaks. So the burden falls more on you/your grandkids.

So you don't like Dems spend on welfare but you let the GOP bankrupt the treasury on war spending/defense spending? Forget half of that spending that is for our safety. What about the other half that the GOP squandered?

And instead of Iraq oil paying for the war, we give all that oil to Ray Hunt, Bush's oil buddy. And let the American tax payers pick up the tab. Socialize the losses and privatize the profits is the GOP way.

You got to be kidding me.

Hey idiot...you show me one fucking political commission that stated the oil companies were gouging. You can't find one. The dems have tried to prove over and over that there was gouging...they came away empty handed. Your a liar.
Yes the republicans have moved to the left, look at all the spending that was going on under the Bush adminstration. They deserted the conservative values. Your a liar.
Your Bill Clinton signed the NAFTA agreement, it was a democratic thing. Your a liar.
Like I said about spending earlier, republicans spent too much, that's why they got beat.
With your oil scenario, the democrats could have intervened before the papers were signed, they did nothing afterward. Reading about it, it seems good for the US, and to iraq, I guess this is whats called........wait for it...."capitalizim,"
Idiot....yesterday i kept it civil, and asked you do the same...you can't do it, because you are an idiot. Having said that...I have voted democrat, and republican, but I'm not a fucking socialist like yourself. So yeah I did vot republican. You loon

Dems haven't gotten to it yet. They will. And that's why the oil companies won't fuck with us right now. The new president won't just sit back and allow it to break our economy again.

Yes, $4 a gallon is what broke us.

And you are a fool:

Congress has summoned BP for a hearing on Thursday before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce to answer why it allowed its Alaska pipelines to deteriorate despite such large profit margins, causing a partial shutdown of oil production in America’s largest oilfield and temporarily driving up global oil prices. And although BP claims it is the renewable energy leader, it plans to invest just $800 million a year in solar, wind, natural gas and hydrogen energy – less than 2 percent of the total amount the company posted in profits, stock buybacks, dividend payments and cash reserves in 2005.

Public Citizen | Press Room - Oil Companies Manipulate Markets and Gouge Consumers, Harming Both Economy and Environment

And why are you waiting for a Democratic Political commission to say anything? You guys claim that there is no difference between the parties. So if the oil companies are cool with the GOP, they must be cool with the Dems too, right?

Also, if s&d were the only reason gas prices went up, then the oil companies wouldn't have increased their profits. Do you understand that? Example. It cost me $5 to make a $10 toy and the costs go up $1, so I raise my costs $1. So I still only make $5 profit per toy.

Instead the oil companies profits skyrocketted. Why?

U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission investigate oil price manipulation – Royal Dutch Shell plc .com

Again, what a sucker you are. If it walks and talks like a duck, its a duck, dick.

 

[WillowTree]

and to paraphrase something you said yesterday, you must swallow everything MICHAEL MOORE ejaculates.

I love Michael Moore, Al Franken and every other person you right wingers demonize. They speak the truth and that's why you bash them so hard. They are better than Rush, O'reilly, Hannity, Savage. My guys tell on your rich guys when they break the law and hurt America. Your guys demonize my guys and defend the corporations while they ruin the middle class.

Because the real culprits are Chaney, Abramoff, Rove, Delay, Wolfowitz, Paulson, Boehner, Libby, Graham, Dole, McCain, Craig, Vetter, Foley, etc.

I may wake up tomorrow and think I'm a democrat..after your BS...not. but, your going to wake up tomorrow and still be an idiot.

 

[sealybobo]

all those guys KNEW 9/11 was coming and did nothing to stop it, is that true?

All the members of PNAC

PNAC Neo-Con Artists

I know the members of PNAC. I know the theory. I know it's based off the book "The Grand Chessboard", written by Zgbiniew Brzinski (who inadvertently created al qaeda and happens to work for Obama now). That doesn't PROVE that Bush and Cheney knew 9/11 was going to happen and did nothing to stop it.

They didn't know the date, but they knew it was coming. And I can't prove it, just like LA couldn't prove OJ killed those two people. But in a civil lawsuit, it can be proven. And it might even happen. You should read this book.

The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder

Why do you believe people who lie over and over again?

The most interesting thing about the DeFrank piece [here] is that it is a fairly simple admission on the White House's part that Bush lied for more than two years about knowing who leaked Plame's name. And the thing that made him mad was not that it was illegal or immoral act -- it was that they got caught.

And what was with Chaney/Bush blaming the anthrax on Saddam? Pretty serious mistake to blame Saddam when there might be another culprit somewhere out there loose, killing guys like Dashel & Leahy.

Come on idiot!!! Wake up!!! Too much points to the fact that Bush and Chaney wanted and allowed 9-11 to happen because it was their excuse to invade Iraq.

They lied about Saddam's connection to 9-11, anthrax, etc.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1076843

And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."

But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."

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Occasion 2:
President Holds Town Hall Forum on Economy in California
[whitehouse.gov, January 5, 2002]

"I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on..." [whitehouse.gov]

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There is a problem with the above statements. There was no live video coverage of the first plane hitting the tower. There couldn't be. Video of the first plane hitting the tower did not surface until AFTER the second plane had hit World Trade Center 2.

 

[KittenKoder]

Wow .... talk about case in point. It's no wonder our country is going to shit ... nothing ever changes except which side of the finger people are on.The last admin wasn't even when it started, but it's fresher in mind and we all know it was run like shit. Now, like musical chairs, the other side gets a chance .... but like musical chairs the music stopped again. The EXACT same roles are there, the EXACT same finger pointing, just the players keep switching places ... duh. My favorite definition of insanity "trying the same thing again and again while expecting different results". Why not try something new and instead of screaming who is to blame and letting the party leaders on both sides rob us blind?

 

[sealybobo]

I love Michael Moore, Al Franken and every other person you right wingers demonize. They speak the truth and that's why you bash them so hard. They are better than Rush, O'reilly, Hannity, Savage. My guys tell on your rich guys when they break the law and hurt America. Your guys demonize my guys and defend the corporations while they ruin the middle class.

Because the real culprits are Chaney, Abramoff, Rove, Delay, Wolfowitz, Paulson, Boehner, Libby, Graham, Dole, McCain, Craig, Vetter, Foley, etc.

I may wake up tomorrow and think I'm a democrat..after your BS...not. but, your going to wake up tomorrow and still be an idiot.

So Meister is the Pat of Politics. LOL.

Androgynous traits are those that either have no gender value, or have some aspects generally attributed to the opposite gender. Physiological androgyny (compare intersex), which deals with physical traits, is distinct from behavioral androgyny which deals with personal and social anomalies in gender, and from psychological androgyny, which is a matter of gender identity.[citation needed]

So do you have more of the liberal traits or conservative traits. Huh Pat?

 

[elvis]

All the members of PNAC

PNAC Neo-Con Artists

I know the members of PNAC. I know the theory. I know it's based off the book "The Grand Chessboard", written by Zgbiniew Brzinski (who inadvertently created al qaeda and happens to work for Obama now). That doesn't PROVE that Bush and Cheney knew 9/11 was going to happen and did nothing to stop it.

They didn't know the date, but they knew it was coming. And I can't prove it, just like LA couldn't prove OJ killed those two people. But in a civil lawsuit, it can be proven. And it might even happen. You should read this book.

The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder

Why do you believe people who lie over and over again?

The most interesting thing about the DeFrank piece [here] is that it is a fairly simple admission on the White House's part that Bush lied for more than two years about knowing who leaked Plame's name. And the thing that made him mad was not that it was illegal or immoral act -- it was that they got caught.

And what was with Chaney/Bush blaming the anthrax on Saddam? Pretty serious mistake to blame Saddam when there might be another culprit somewhere out there loose, killing guys like Dashel & Leahy.

Come on idiot!!! Wake up!!! Too much points to the fact that Bush and Chaney wanted and allowed 9-11 to happen because it was their excuse to invade Iraq.

They lied about Saddam's connection to 9-11, anthrax, etc.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1076843

And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."

But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."

RealMedia video download of comment

Occasion 2:
President Holds Town Hall Forum on Economy in California
[whitehouse.gov, January 5, 2002]

"I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on..." [whitehouse.gov]

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There is a problem with the above statements. There was no live video coverage of the first plane hitting the tower. There couldn't be. Video of the first plane hitting the tower did not surface until AFTER the second plane had hit World Trade Center 2.

I don't believe Bush, Obama, Clinton, or anyone else who lies over and over again. If they knew 9/11 was going to happen, or planned it, why not implicate Iraqis? Why would they implicate Saudis and particularly the bin ladens who, as you like to point out, are Bush's buddies?

 

[KittenKoder]

I may wake up tomorrow and think I'm a democrat..after your BS...not. but, your going to wake up tomorrow and still be an idiot.

So Meister is the Pat of Politics. LOL.

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So do you have more of the liberal traits or conservative traits. Huh Pat?

Hey now, I envy Pat.

 

[sealybobo]

Wow .... talk about case in point. It's no wonder our country is going to shit ... nothing ever changes except which side of the finger people are on.The last admin wasn't even when it started, but it's fresher in mind and we all know it was run like shit. Now, like musical chairs, the other side gets a chance .... but like musical chairs the music stopped again. The EXACT same roles are there, the EXACT same finger pointing, just the players keep switching places ... duh. My favorite definition of insanity "trying the same thing again and again while expecting different results". Why not try something new and instead of screaming who is to blame and letting the party leaders on both sides rob us blind?

The people on the right will never stop. Did you see the special on John Adams? Thomas Jefferson started this. Him and his party. John Adams tried to work with the Republicans in good faith and they stabbed him in the back the second they got a chance. Even Abe Lincoln had to hire his biggest rivals because if not, they would have made his first term HELL.

And you want us to be the "bigger men" ala Dukakis, Gore and Kerry, all got burned by doing it your way.

And McCain and Palin were awful. Now you want Obama to try to work with people who call him a terrorist/socialist? HE EVEN TRIED!!! And he got pissed on.

So sorry, we gotta play politics.

But keep in mind, the policies we are trying to push through will help you, not hurt. The GOP pushed policies through that helped the rich, and hurt the middle class.

Today is a complete 180 from the last 8 years. If you haven't noticed, a new party is in control. And now the GOP will REALLY be attacking us, because we are in control.

Do you agree with the GOP and the Corporate media that the dems are ruining America? Then vote how you want in 2 years.