The Divide: The "Trumpians" vs. the expected 2016 demographics

[ScienceRocks]

Illegals and the non-living still favor Democrats

~99% of the Hispanic vote is LEGAL!!!!! Only 46% of that vote even came out in 2012 so you better hope it doesn't come out with a higher percentage and holds 73% towards the democrats as it did in 2012.

It is nearly impossible for the republicans to get 60% or more of the white vote this election. Not with Hillary pulling away white votes with the womans I have a pussy vote.

Republicans are fucked.

Sure we are. Just like we were in 2014.......it's demographics.....

Midterms are base elections between whites! Presidential elections are far bigger and far more diverse.

 

[jillian]

Let's simplify this for the rabid left wing eggheads. Tell stat to crank up his vast arsenal of computers and tell us if anyone has ever been elected president who had a 57 per cent untrustworthy character rating.

y ou still have to run someone who isn't a rightwingnut psycho.

 

[jillian]

Illegals and the non-living still favor Democrats

~99% of the Hispanic vote is LEGAL!!!!! Only 46% of that vote even came out in 2012 so you better hope it doesn't come out with a higher percentage and holds 73% towards the democrats as it did in 2012.

It is nearly impossible for the republicans to get 60% or more of the white vote this election. Not with Hillary pulling away white votes with the womans I have a pussy vote.

Republicans are fucked.

Sure we are. Just like we were in 2014.......it's demographics.....

no... like in 2012

try again.

rightwingnuts can't win a general election.

 

[imawhosure]

Illegals and the non-living still favor Democrats

~99% of the Hispanic vote is LEGAL!!!!! Only 46% of that vote even came out in 2012 so you better hope it doesn't come out with a higher percentage and holds 73% towards the democrats as it did in 2012.

It is nearly impossible for the republicans to get 60% or more of the white vote this election. Not with Hillary pulling away white votes with the womans I have a pussy vote.

Republicans are fucked.

Sure we are. Just like we were in 2014.......it's demographics.....

no... like in 2012

try again.

rightwingnuts can't win a general election.

1. Romney was not a wingnut, he was moderate. So was Mcain. So, if moderates can't win, better move right. The only candidate that can win faaar out is on the left. Look at Obama, he is closer to a socialist then socialists from 20 years. That is probably why Sanders thinks he has a chance, he is just slightly further left than Obama, and Obama won a 2nd term against a moderate!

2. To believe that Hispanic Americans want free flowing people from over the border is ridiculous. I am Hispanic American, and I want it shut down 25 years ago.

3. You can't win an election; nobody can, if people won't vote for what is good for them, or against what is bad for them.
a. Is illegal immigration good for anyone besides the illegal or the chamber of commerce? ANSWER, NO!
b. Who does illegal immigration hurt the most? Poor people, African American teenagers, and American business owners who are in the construction business.

4. A conservative doesn't need 60% of the white vote. Why? Because if the nominee is Hilly, African Americans won't vote for her, and if she isn't, who is going to vote as an American for an avowed Socialist?

5. More than 1% of the vote isn't legal, that is exactly why democrats fight tooth and nail to stop voter ID. It has not as much to do with the Hispanic vote, as it does with big city voting where people who are dead, magically vote.

In the end, it is going to come down to who wins the republican nomination, and has less to do with who wins the democrat nomination. The democrat will win if Jeb, Trump, Huckabee, Santorum win the nomination. If Cruz, Walker, Carson, win the nomination, the democrat loses. If Paul wins the nomination, you have to lean democrat 51/49, but could go either way. Rubio is the BEST chance for the repubs to win, but he and Jeb are Hilly lite. Why elect someone to keep the status quo until a democrat can get elected again, and roll us towards oblivion?

Why he is he the best chance? Not because he galvanizes republicans, that is for sure; it is because he is Hispanic and leans towards amnesty and no fence. He will get a large % of Hispanics, and take lots of them from the Democrats. Still, if illegal immigration is a high priority for you, (as it is for over 60% of Americans) Rubio is NOT your person in the primary for sure.

 

[jillian]

Illegals and the non-living still favor Democrats

~99% of the Hispanic vote is LEGAL!!!!! Only 46% of that vote even came out in 2012 so you better hope it doesn't come out with a higher percentage and holds 73% towards the democrats as it did in 2012.

It is nearly impossible for the republicans to get 60% or more of the white vote this election. Not with Hillary pulling away white votes with the womans I have a pussy vote.

Republicans are fucked.

Sure we are. Just like we were in 2014.......it's demographics.....

no... like in 2012

try again.

rightwingnuts can't win a general election.

1. Romney was not a wingnut, he was moderate. So was Mcain. So, if moderates can't win, better move right. The only candidate that can win faaar out is on the left. Look at Obama, he is closer to a socialist then socialists from 20 years. That is probably why Sanders thinks he has a chance, he is just slightly further left than Obama, and Obama won a 2nd term against a moderate!

2. To believe that Hispanic Americans want free flowing people from over the border is ridiculous. I am Hispanic American, and I want it shut down 25 years ago.

3. You can't win an election; nobody can, if people won't vote for what is good for them, or against what is bad for them.
a. Is illegal immigration good for anyone besides the illegal or the chamber of commerce? ANSWER, NO!
b. Who does illegal immigration hurt the most? Poor people, African American teenagers, and American business owners who are in the construction business.

4. A conservative doesn't need 60% of the white vote. Why? Because if the nominee is Hilly, African Americans won't vote for her, and if she isn't, who is going to vote as an American for an avowed Socialist?

5. More than 1% of the vote isn't legal, that is exactly why democrats fight tooth and nail to stop voter ID. It has not as much to do with the Hispanic vote, as it does with big city voting where people who are dead, magically vote.

In the end, it is going to come down to who wins the republican nomination, and has less to do with who wins the democrat nomination. The democrat will win if Jeb, Trump, Huckabee, Santorum win the nomination. If Cruz, Walker, Carson, win the nomination, the democrat loses. If Paul wins the nomination, you have to lean democrat 51/49, but could go either way. Rubio is the BEST chance for the repubs to win, but he and Jeb are Hilly lite. Why elect someone to keep the status quo until a democrat can get elected again, and roll us towards oblivion?

Why he is he the best chance? Not because he galvanizes republicans, that is for sure; it is because he is Hispanic and leans towards amnesty and no fence. He will get a large % of Hispanics, and take lots of them from the Democrats. Still, if illegal immigration is a high priority for you, (as it is for over 60% of Americans) Rubio is NOT your person in the primary for sure.

Romney was a moderate when he was governor of Massachusetts. He did not run as a moderate. He ran to appease the right and supported lunacy like personhood laws and refused to support the Lilly Ledbetter law. and spewed winger nonsense to satisfy the "base" of loons. he went so far winger as to disavow his own health care plan.

your other garbage about more than 1% of the vote not being legal is winger nonsense.

women didn't support romney because he took the side of the radical religious right

minorities wouldn't vote for romney because he bought into the rightwing rhetoric hook line and sinker

and young people wouldn't vote for a candidate who, again, took on the rightwingnut rhetoric

 

[imawhosure]

Illegals and the non-living still favor Democrats

~99% of the Hispanic vote is LEGAL!!!!! Only 46% of that vote even came out in 2012 so you better hope it doesn't come out with a higher percentage and holds 73% towards the democrats as it did in 2012.

It is nearly impossible for the republicans to get 60% or more of the white vote this election. Not with Hillary pulling away white votes with the womans I have a pussy vote.

Republicans are fucked.

Sure we are. Just like we were in 2014.......it's demographics.....

no... like in 2012

try again.

rightwingnuts can't win a general election.

1. Romney was not a wingnut, he was moderate. So was Mcain. So, if moderates can't win, better move right. The only candidate that can win faaar out is on the left. Look at Obama, he is closer to a socialist then socialists from 20 years. That is probably why Sanders thinks he has a chance, he is just slightly further left than Obama, and Obama won a 2nd term against a moderate!

2. To believe that Hispanic Americans want free flowing people from over the border is ridiculous. I am Hispanic American, and I want it shut down 25 years ago.

3. You can't win an election; nobody can, if people won't vote for what is good for them, or against what is bad for them.
a. Is illegal immigration good for anyone besides the illegal or the chamber of commerce? ANSWER, NO!
b. Who does illegal immigration hurt the most? Poor people, African American teenagers, and American business owners who are in the construction business.

4. A conservative doesn't need 60% of the white vote. Why? Because if the nominee is Hilly, African Americans won't vote for her, and if she isn't, who is going to vote as an American for an avowed Socialist?

5. More than 1% of the vote isn't legal, that is exactly why democrats fight tooth and nail to stop voter ID. It has not as much to do with the Hispanic vote, as it does with big city voting where people who are dead, magically vote.

In the end, it is going to come down to who wins the republican nomination, and has less to do with who wins the democrat nomination. The democrat will win if Jeb, Trump, Huckabee, Santorum win the nomination. If Cruz, Walker, Carson, win the nomination, the democrat loses. If Paul wins the nomination, you have to lean democrat 51/49, but could go either way. Rubio is the BEST chance for the repubs to win, but he and Jeb are Hilly lite. Why elect someone to keep the status quo until a democrat can get elected again, and roll us towards oblivion?

Why he is he the best chance? Not because he galvanizes republicans, that is for sure; it is because he is Hispanic and leans towards amnesty and no fence. He will get a large % of Hispanics, and take lots of them from the Democrats. Still, if illegal immigration is a high priority for you, (as it is for over 60% of Americans) Rubio is NOT your person in the primary for sure.

Romney was a moderate when he was governor of Massachusetts. He did not run as a moderate. He ran to appease the right and supported lunacy like personhood laws and refused to support the Lilly Ledbetter law. and spewed winger nonsense to satisfy the "base" of loons. he went so far winger as to disavow his own health care plan.

your other garbage about more than 1% of the vote not being legal is winger nonsense.

women didn't support romney because he took the side of the radical religious right

minorities wouldn't vote for romney because he bought into the rightwing rhetoric hook line and sinker

and young people wouldn't vote for a candidate who, again, took on the rightwingnut rhetoric

No offense Jillian, but that is ridiculous.

1. Both Mcain and Romney were moderates. The reason you see them as so far right, is because the democrats have moved so far left. If Obama was JFK or even Clinton, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Hell, JFK would probably be a republican today, which should tell you how far the democrats have gone off the reservation. And oh, by the way, Reagan was a democrat for many, many years when they actually were for the little guy instead of socialism.

2. As far as the vote totals, you can't prove a negative, so I won't even try. But, you would think that insuring the integrity of the vote would be on both parties agenda. Sadly, it is not. Oh, by the way, do you know who created the pol tax? That is correct, the DEMOCRATS; and it was enforced by none other than the Klu-Klux-Klan, which was a wing of the democratic party. Are you surprised?

3. As far as minorities not buying into Romney because of his "wingedness," why should anyone be surprised! If Hilly gives you a dollar every year, and I say I will take it away, who does anyone think you would vote for? In the old days, we call that buying votes. Today, you use redefined words and call it compassion.

4. The young people voted the way they did because they were lied too. Look at what the pols say now, and you will see the young people who are now in their mid 20s have changed their tune a lot. And why shouldn't they! All the money being borrowed, the bill is going to be left to them and the people behind them, some who can not even vote yet.

The real problem with young people lies with their parents. (myself included) We send our children off to liberal indoctrination at some of these schools, and pay through the nose for it. And we all know that young people believe they are invincible, and know everything; especially if they went to college. And what do they know? Why everything some left wing hack taught them, like Obamas buddy the terrorist prof, Ayers..........with the help of his wife, the other terrorist, Bernadine Dorn. (if you don't know what they did, look it up)

And oh, by the way, just as a simple question...............do you actually know what a community organizer does, and how they do it? Look it up and understand people like YOU elected one to the Presidency. Once you understand their methods, you will realize if you have any smarts, why socially what comes out of the Whitehouse, is what it is. He is doing EXACTLY what he was taught, and people like you are falling for it, hook, line, and sinker!

 

[Nyvin]

1. Both Mcain and Romney were moderates. The reason you see them as so far right, is because the democrats have moved so far left. If Obama was JFK or even Clinton, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Hell, JFK would probably be a republican today, which should tell you how far the democrats have gone off the reservation. And oh, by the way, Reagan was a democrat for many, many years when they actually were for the little guy instead of socialism.

When you give speeches about "self-deportation", repealing Obamacare, cut food stamps, cut medicaid, cut drilling regulations, increase military spending, no to increasing minimum wage, and being "pro-life" (after being pro-choice in Mass), it's safe to say he ran as a conservative.

What's really crazy is compared to a lot of the candidates "Now" he actually does look "moderate" but that's only because the GOP has gone further right since then.

Heck, GW Bush's approach to immigration alone would make him look like a liberal in today's field, lol!

 

[Papageorgio]

Democrats getting their panties in a wad over Trump.

Trump is making the elections n fun, so far.

 

[jillian]

~99% of the Hispanic vote is LEGAL!!!!! Only 46% of that vote even came out in 2012 so you better hope it doesn't come out with a higher percentage and holds 73% towards the democrats as it did in 2012.

It is nearly impossible for the republicans to get 60% or more of the white vote this election. Not with Hillary pulling away white votes with the womans I have a pussy vote.

Republicans are fucked.

Sure we are. Just like we were in 2014.......it's demographics.....

no... like in 2012

try again.

rightwingnuts can't win a general election.

1. Romney was not a wingnut, he was moderate. So was Mcain. So, if moderates can't win, better move right. The only candidate that can win faaar out is on the left. Look at Obama, he is closer to a socialist then socialists from 20 years. That is probably why Sanders thinks he has a chance, he is just slightly further left than Obama, and Obama won a 2nd term against a moderate!

2. To believe that Hispanic Americans want free flowing people from over the border is ridiculous. I am Hispanic American, and I want it shut down 25 years ago.

3. You can't win an election; nobody can, if people won't vote for what is good for them, or against what is bad for them.
a. Is illegal immigration good for anyone besides the illegal or the chamber of commerce? ANSWER, NO!
b. Who does illegal immigration hurt the most? Poor people, African American teenagers, and American business owners who are in the construction business.

4. A conservative doesn't need 60% of the white vote. Why? Because if the nominee is Hilly, African Americans won't vote for her, and if she isn't, who is going to vote as an American for an avowed Socialist?

5. More than 1% of the vote isn't legal, that is exactly why democrats fight tooth and nail to stop voter ID. It has not as much to do with the Hispanic vote, as it does with big city voting where people who are dead, magically vote.

In the end, it is going to come down to who wins the republican nomination, and has less to do with who wins the democrat nomination. The democrat will win if Jeb, Trump, Huckabee, Santorum win the nomination. If Cruz, Walker, Carson, win the nomination, the democrat loses. If Paul wins the nomination, you have to lean democrat 51/49, but could go either way. Rubio is the BEST chance for the repubs to win, but he and Jeb are Hilly lite. Why elect someone to keep the status quo until a democrat can get elected again, and roll us towards oblivion?

Why he is he the best chance? Not because he galvanizes republicans, that is for sure; it is because he is Hispanic and leans towards amnesty and no fence. He will get a large % of Hispanics, and take lots of them from the Democrats. Still, if illegal immigration is a high priority for you, (as it is for over 60% of Americans) Rubio is NOT your person in the primary for sure.

Romney was a moderate when he was governor of Massachusetts. He did not run as a moderate. He ran to appease the right and supported lunacy like personhood laws and refused to support the Lilly Ledbetter law. and spewed winger nonsense to satisfy the "base" of loons. he went so far winger as to disavow his own health care plan.

your other garbage about more than 1% of the vote not being legal is winger nonsense.

women didn't support romney because he took the side of the radical religious right

minorities wouldn't vote for romney because he bought into the rightwing rhetoric hook line and sinker

and young people wouldn't vote for a candidate who, again, took on the rightwingnut rhetoric

No offense Jillian, but that is ridiculous.

1. Both Mcain and Romney were moderates. The reason you see them as so far right, is because the democrats have moved so far left. If Obama was JFK or even Clinton, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Hell, JFK would probably be a republican today, which should tell you how far the democrats have gone off the reservation. And oh, by the way, Reagan was a democrat for many, many years when they actually were for the little guy instead of socialism.

2. As far as the vote totals, you can't prove a negative, so I won't even try. But, you would think that insuring the integrity of the vote would be on both parties agenda. Sadly, it is not. Oh, by the way, do you know who created the pol tax? That is correct, the DEMOCRATS; and it was enforced by none other than the Klu-Klux-Klan, which was a wing of the democratic party. Are you surprised?

3. As far as minorities not buying into Romney because of his "wingedness," why should anyone be surprised! If Hilly gives you a dollar every year, and I say I will take it away, who does anyone think you would vote for? In the old days, we call that buying votes. Today, you use redefined words and call it compassion.

4. The young people voted the way they did because they were lied too. Look at what the pols say now, and you will see the young people who are now in their mid 20s have changed their tune a lot. And why shouldn't they! All the money being borrowed, the bill is going to be left to them and the people behind them, some who can not even vote yet.

The real problem with young people lies with their parents. (myself included) We send our children off to liberal indoctrination at some of these schools, and pay through the nose for it. And we all know that young people believe they are invincible, and know everything; especially if they went to college. And what do they know? Why everything some left wing hack taught them, like Obamas buddy the terrorist prof, Ayers..........with the help of his wife, the other terrorist, Bernadine Dorn. (if you don't know what they did, look it up)

And oh, by the way, just as a simple question...............do you actually know what a community organizer does, and how they do it? Look it up and understand people like YOU elected one to the Presidency. Once you understand their methods, you will realize if you have any smarts, why socially what comes out of the Whitehouse, is what it is. He is doing EXACTLY what he was taught, and people like you are falling for it, hook, line, and sinker!

there is nothing "ridiculous" in what i posted. what i posted is the truth and why you lost. had romney stayed the moderate he was, he might have won.

i guess you don't remember how he wouldn't criticize the creep who talked about "legitimate rape".

and if you're wondering if he supported the ledbetter law or personhood laws, i'd direct you to do some research on that. you'll find i'm correct and no sane woman would vote for someone who failed on every woman's issue.

and no working person should have voted for someone who had nothing but disdain for people who work.

 

[BULLDOG]

Democrats getting their panties in a wad over Trump.

Trump is making the elections n fun, so far.

Democrats are enjoying every minute of it. GO TRUMP!!!

 

[koshergrl]

Sure we are. Just like we were in 2014.......it's demographics.....

no... like in 2012

try again.

rightwingnuts can't win a general election.

1. Romney was not a wingnut, he was moderate. So was Mcain. So, if moderates can't win, better move right. The only candidate that can win faaar out is on the left. Look at Obama, he is closer to a socialist then socialists from 20 years. That is probably why Sanders thinks he has a chance, he is just slightly further left than Obama, and Obama won a 2nd term against a moderate!

2. To believe that Hispanic Americans want free flowing people from over the border is ridiculous. I am Hispanic American, and I want it shut down 25 years ago.

3. You can't win an election; nobody can, if people won't vote for what is good for them, or against what is bad for them.
a. Is illegal immigration good for anyone besides the illegal or the chamber of commerce? ANSWER, NO!
b. Who does illegal immigration hurt the most? Poor people, African American teenagers, and American business owners who are in the construction business.

4. A conservative doesn't need 60% of the white vote. Why? Because if the nominee is Hilly, African Americans won't vote for her, and if she isn't, who is going to vote as an American for an avowed Socialist?

5. More than 1% of the vote isn't legal, that is exactly why democrats fight tooth and nail to stop voter ID. It has not as much to do with the Hispanic vote, as it does with big city voting where people who are dead, magically vote.

In the end, it is going to come down to who wins the republican nomination, and has less to do with who wins the democrat nomination. The democrat will win if Jeb, Trump, Huckabee, Santorum win the nomination. If Cruz, Walker, Carson, win the nomination, the democrat loses. If Paul wins the nomination, you have to lean democrat 51/49, but could go either way. Rubio is the BEST chance for the repubs to win, but he and Jeb are Hilly lite. Why elect someone to keep the status quo until a democrat can get elected again, and roll us towards oblivion?

Why he is he the best chance? Not because he galvanizes republicans, that is for sure; it is because he is Hispanic and leans towards amnesty and no fence. He will get a large % of Hispanics, and take lots of them from the Democrats. Still, if illegal immigration is a high priority for you, (as it is for over 60% of Americans) Rubio is NOT your person in the primary for sure.

Romney was a moderate when he was governor of Massachusetts. He did not run as a moderate. He ran to appease the right and supported lunacy like personhood laws and refused to support the Lilly Ledbetter law. and spewed winger nonsense to satisfy the "base" of loons. he went so far winger as to disavow his own health care plan.

your other garbage about more than 1% of the vote not being legal is winger nonsense.

women didn't support romney because he took the side of the radical religious right

minorities wouldn't vote for romney because he bought into the rightwing rhetoric hook line and sinker

and young people wouldn't vote for a candidate who, again, took on the rightwingnut rhetoric

No offense Jillian, but that is ridiculous.

1. Both Mcain and Romney were moderates. The reason you see them as so far right, is because the democrats have moved so far left. If Obama was JFK or even Clinton, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Hell, JFK would probably be a republican today, which should tell you how far the democrats have gone off the reservation. And oh, by the way, Reagan was a democrat for many, many years when they actually were for the little guy instead of socialism.

2. As far as the vote totals, you can't prove a negative, so I won't even try. But, you would think that insuring the integrity of the vote would be on both parties agenda. Sadly, it is not. Oh, by the way, do you know who created the pol tax? That is correct, the DEMOCRATS; and it was enforced by none other than the Klu-Klux-Klan, which was a wing of the democratic party. Are you surprised?

3. As far as minorities not buying into Romney because of his "wingedness," why should anyone be surprised! If Hilly gives you a dollar every year, and I say I will take it away, who does anyone think you would vote for? In the old days, we call that buying votes. Today, you use redefined words and call it compassion.

4. The young people voted the way they did because they were lied too. Look at what the pols say now, and you will see the young people who are now in their mid 20s have changed their tune a lot. And why shouldn't they! All the money being borrowed, the bill is going to be left to them and the people behind them, some who can not even vote yet.

The real problem with young people lies with their parents. (myself included) We send our children off to liberal indoctrination at some of these schools, and pay through the nose for it. And we all know that young people believe they are invincible, and know everything; especially if they went to college. And what do they know? Why everything some left wing hack taught them, like Obamas buddy the terrorist prof, Ayers..........with the help of his wife, the other terrorist, Bernadine Dorn. (if you don't know what they did, look it up)

And oh, by the way, just as a simple question...............do you actually know what a community organizer does, and how they do it? Look it up and understand people like YOU elected one to the Presidency. Once you understand their methods, you will realize if you have any smarts, why socially what comes out of the Whitehouse, is what it is. He is doing EXACTLY what he was taught, and people like you are falling for it, hook, line, and sinker!

there is nothing "ridiculous" in what i posted. what i posted is the truth and why you lost. had romney stayed the moderate he was, he might have won.

i guess you don't remember how he wouldn't criticize the creep who talked about "legitimate rape".

and if you're wondering if he supported the ledbetter law or personhood laws, i'd direct you to do some research on that. you'll find i'm correct and no sane woman would vote for someone who failed on every woman's issue.

and no working person should have voted for someone who had nothing but disdain for people who work.

Except you use the term *moderate* interchangeably with *left*.

 

[imawhosure]

Sure we are. Just like we were in 2014.......it's demographics.....

no... like in 2012

try again.

rightwingnuts can't win a general election.

1. Romney was not a wingnut, he was moderate. So was Mcain. So, if moderates can't win, better move right. The only candidate that can win faaar out is on the left. Look at Obama, he is closer to a socialist then socialists from 20 years. That is probably why Sanders thinks he has a chance, he is just slightly further left than Obama, and Obama won a 2nd term against a moderate!

2. To believe that Hispanic Americans want free flowing people from over the border is ridiculous. I am Hispanic American, and I want it shut down 25 years ago.

3. You can't win an election; nobody can, if people won't vote for what is good for them, or against what is bad for them.
a. Is illegal immigration good for anyone besides the illegal or the chamber of commerce? ANSWER, NO!
b. Who does illegal immigration hurt the most? Poor people, African American teenagers, and American business owners who are in the construction business.

4. A conservative doesn't need 60% of the white vote. Why? Because if the nominee is Hilly, African Americans won't vote for her, and if she isn't, who is going to vote as an American for an avowed Socialist?

5. More than 1% of the vote isn't legal, that is exactly why democrats fight tooth and nail to stop voter ID. It has not as much to do with the Hispanic vote, as it does with big city voting where people who are dead, magically vote.

In the end, it is going to come down to who wins the republican nomination, and has less to do with who wins the democrat nomination. The democrat will win if Jeb, Trump, Huckabee, Santorum win the nomination. If Cruz, Walker, Carson, win the nomination, the democrat loses. If Paul wins the nomination, you have to lean democrat 51/49, but could go either way. Rubio is the BEST chance for the repubs to win, but he and Jeb are Hilly lite. Why elect someone to keep the status quo until a democrat can get elected again, and roll us towards oblivion?

Why he is he the best chance? Not because he galvanizes republicans, that is for sure; it is because he is Hispanic and leans towards amnesty and no fence. He will get a large % of Hispanics, and take lots of them from the Democrats. Still, if illegal immigration is a high priority for you, (as it is for over 60% of Americans) Rubio is NOT your person in the primary for sure.

Romney was a moderate when he was governor of Massachusetts. He did not run as a moderate. He ran to appease the right and supported lunacy like personhood laws and refused to support the Lilly Ledbetter law. and spewed winger nonsense to satisfy the "base" of loons. he went so far winger as to disavow his own health care plan.

your other garbage about more than 1% of the vote not being legal is winger nonsense.

women didn't support romney because he took the side of the radical religious right

minorities wouldn't vote for romney because he bought into the rightwing rhetoric hook line and sinker

and young people wouldn't vote for a candidate who, again, took on the rightwingnut rhetoric

No offense Jillian, but that is ridiculous.

1. Both Mcain and Romney were moderates. The reason you see them as so far right, is because the democrats have moved so far left. If Obama was JFK or even Clinton, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Hell, JFK would probably be a republican today, which should tell you how far the democrats have gone off the reservation. And oh, by the way, Reagan was a democrat for many, many years when they actually were for the little guy instead of socialism.

2. As far as the vote totals, you can't prove a negative, so I won't even try. But, you would think that insuring the integrity of the vote would be on both parties agenda. Sadly, it is not. Oh, by the way, do you know who created the pol tax? That is correct, the DEMOCRATS; and it was enforced by none other than the Klu-Klux-Klan, which was a wing of the democratic party. Are you surprised?

3. As far as minorities not buying into Romney because of his "wingedness," why should anyone be surprised! If Hilly gives you a dollar every year, and I say I will take it away, who does anyone think you would vote for? In the old days, we call that buying votes. Today, you use redefined words and call it compassion.

4. The young people voted the way they did because they were lied too. Look at what the pols say now, and you will see the young people who are now in their mid 20s have changed their tune a lot. And why shouldn't they! All the money being borrowed, the bill is going to be left to them and the people behind them, some who can not even vote yet.

The real problem with young people lies with their parents. (myself included) We send our children off to liberal indoctrination at some of these schools, and pay through the nose for it. And we all know that young people believe they are invincible, and know everything; especially if they went to college. And what do they know? Why everything some left wing hack taught them, like Obamas buddy the terrorist prof, Ayers..........with the help of his wife, the other terrorist, Bernadine Dorn. (if you don't know what they did, look it up)

And oh, by the way, just as a simple question...............do you actually know what a community organizer does, and how they do it? Look it up and understand people like YOU elected one to the Presidency. Once you understand their methods, you will realize if you have any smarts, why socially what comes out of the Whitehouse, is what it is. He is doing EXACTLY what he was taught, and people like you are falling for it, hook, line, and sinker!

there is nothing "ridiculous" in what i posted. what i posted is the truth and why you lost. had romney stayed the moderate he was, he might have won.

i guess you don't remember how he wouldn't criticize the creep who talked about "legitimate rape".

and if you're wondering if he supported the ledbetter law or personhood laws, i'd direct you to do some research on that. you'll find i'm correct and no sane woman would vote for someone who failed on every woman's issue.

and no working person should have voted for someone who had nothing but disdain for people who work.

Yes, it was ridiculous.

He was Moderate, stayed moderate, and that is why he lost. The base didn't vote for him because he was moderate. Obama got far less votes in 12 than he did in 08 because people got tired of his shtick and figured him out. Romney got less votes than Mcain; and yet, there were MORE voters yet less votes cast. That should tell you they were BOTH losers!

The Lily Ledbetter act, really? Are you telling me, that a woman would vote to put a guy in office because he SUGGESTS he likes the legislation, while he pays his female staffers less than their male counterparts? Really? Seriously?

He wouldn't criticize the creep about legitimate rape. Good point! Did Obama criticize Louis Farrakhan who is a democrat for all his racist remarks? Did he criticize "god damn America the very reverend Wright" after sitting in his church for 20 years? Did he apologize for lying through his pearly whites about if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor? How about for Rahm when he said, "let no crisis go to waste?" How about him lowering our healthcare bills 2500 bucks a year? Has he apologized for letting his democratic cronies have federally illegal sanctuary cities? How about his promise to get spending under control, as he has now racked up over 7 more TRILLION in debt? Etc, etc, and I won't waste the bandwidth to list them all as I probably wouldn't live that long.

You are obviously a woman. You believe there is a war on women, lol. I find that kinda funny as I am sure you are well schooled in the buzzwords of the far, far, faaaaaaaar left. The dems have gotten you hooked. You are a victim, aren't you. Instead of worrying about America, you are worrying about............women? Go tell the Kartrashians they are victims, lol. Tell Jenifer Lopez she is a victim too. Don't forget Taylor Swift. Celine anyone? Katy Perry?!?!?! Oprah, oh my, a double minority! Beyoncé? Rihanna?

It appears to me that anyone who accels in their field can get wealthy to me, how about you? But I know, I know, you are a victim, forgive me. And I bet you learned that either in some liby college, or on MSNBC, lolol!

 

[Nyvin]

Democrats getting their panties in a wad over Trump.

Trump is making the elections n fun, so far.

Oh great, this gag line again.....just like Democrats were so terrified of Palin right?? Yeah, that's not how it is sorry.

Trump is popular right now for two reasons

1. Democrats enjoy laughing at him

2. Conservatives are in shock and awe of him

 

[Nyvin]

He was Moderate, stayed moderate, and that is why he lost. The base didn't vote for him because he was moderate. Obama got far less votes in 12 than he did in 08 because people got tired of his shtick and figured him out. Romney got less votes than Mcain; and yet, there were MORE voters yet less votes cast. That should tell you they were BOTH losers!

Obama kicked the crap out of Republicans in 2008 because of the plethora of Bush failures around Republican's necks at the time. The Democrats could've nominated a dead fish in 2008 and won the presidency. In 2012 things normalized again and Obama actually had a semi-fair fight instead of a pushover. I say semi because the GOP is screwed regardless due to their alienation of minorities.

 

[jillian]

no... like in 2012

try again.

rightwingnuts can't win a general election.

1. Romney was not a wingnut, he was moderate. So was Mcain. So, if moderates can't win, better move right. The only candidate that can win faaar out is on the left. Look at Obama, he is closer to a socialist then socialists from 20 years. That is probably why Sanders thinks he has a chance, he is just slightly further left than Obama, and Obama won a 2nd term against a moderate!

2. To believe that Hispanic Americans want free flowing people from over the border is ridiculous. I am Hispanic American, and I want it shut down 25 years ago.

3. You can't win an election; nobody can, if people won't vote for what is good for them, or against what is bad for them.
a. Is illegal immigration good for anyone besides the illegal or the chamber of commerce? ANSWER, NO!
b. Who does illegal immigration hurt the most? Poor people, African American teenagers, and American business owners who are in the construction business.

4. A conservative doesn't need 60% of the white vote. Why? Because if the nominee is Hilly, African Americans won't vote for her, and if she isn't, who is going to vote as an American for an avowed Socialist?

5. More than 1% of the vote isn't legal, that is exactly why democrats fight tooth and nail to stop voter ID. It has not as much to do with the Hispanic vote, as it does with big city voting where people who are dead, magically vote.

In the end, it is going to come down to who wins the republican nomination, and has less to do with who wins the democrat nomination. The democrat will win if Jeb, Trump, Huckabee, Santorum win the nomination. If Cruz, Walker, Carson, win the nomination, the democrat loses. If Paul wins the nomination, you have to lean democrat 51/49, but could go either way. Rubio is the BEST chance for the repubs to win, but he and Jeb are Hilly lite. Why elect someone to keep the status quo until a democrat can get elected again, and roll us towards oblivion?

Why he is he the best chance? Not because he galvanizes republicans, that is for sure; it is because he is Hispanic and leans towards amnesty and no fence. He will get a large % of Hispanics, and take lots of them from the Democrats. Still, if illegal immigration is a high priority for you, (as it is for over 60% of Americans) Rubio is NOT your person in the primary for sure.

Romney was a moderate when he was governor of Massachusetts. He did not run as a moderate. He ran to appease the right and supported lunacy like personhood laws and refused to support the Lilly Ledbetter law. and spewed winger nonsense to satisfy the "base" of loons. he went so far winger as to disavow his own health care plan.

your other garbage about more than 1% of the vote not being legal is winger nonsense.

women didn't support romney because he took the side of the radical religious right

minorities wouldn't vote for romney because he bought into the rightwing rhetoric hook line and sinker

and young people wouldn't vote for a candidate who, again, took on the rightwingnut rhetoric

No offense Jillian, but that is ridiculous.

1. Both Mcain and Romney were moderates. The reason you see them as so far right, is because the democrats have moved so far left. If Obama was JFK or even Clinton, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Hell, JFK would probably be a republican today, which should tell you how far the democrats have gone off the reservation. And oh, by the way, Reagan was a democrat for many, many years when they actually were for the little guy instead of socialism.

2. As far as the vote totals, you can't prove a negative, so I won't even try. But, you would think that insuring the integrity of the vote would be on both parties agenda. Sadly, it is not. Oh, by the way, do you know who created the pol tax? That is correct, the DEMOCRATS; and it was enforced by none other than the Klu-Klux-Klan, which was a wing of the democratic party. Are you surprised?

3. As far as minorities not buying into Romney because of his "wingedness," why should anyone be surprised! If Hilly gives you a dollar every year, and I say I will take it away, who does anyone think you would vote for? In the old days, we call that buying votes. Today, you use redefined words and call it compassion.

4. The young people voted the way they did because they were lied too. Look at what the pols say now, and you will see the young people who are now in their mid 20s have changed their tune a lot. And why shouldn't they! All the money being borrowed, the bill is going to be left to them and the people behind them, some who can not even vote yet.

The real problem with young people lies with their parents. (myself included) We send our children off to liberal indoctrination at some of these schools, and pay through the nose for it. And we all know that young people believe they are invincible, and know everything; especially if they went to college. And what do they know? Why everything some left wing hack taught them, like Obamas buddy the terrorist prof, Ayers..........with the help of his wife, the other terrorist, Bernadine Dorn. (if you don't know what they did, look it up)

And oh, by the way, just as a simple question...............do you actually know what a community organizer does, and how they do it? Look it up and understand people like YOU elected one to the Presidency. Once you understand their methods, you will realize if you have any smarts, why socially what comes out of the Whitehouse, is what it is. He is doing EXACTLY what he was taught, and people like you are falling for it, hook, line, and sinker!

there is nothing "ridiculous" in what i posted. what i posted is the truth and why you lost. had romney stayed the moderate he was, he might have won.

i guess you don't remember how he wouldn't criticize the creep who talked about "legitimate rape".

and if you're wondering if he supported the ledbetter law or personhood laws, i'd direct you to do some research on that. you'll find i'm correct and no sane woman would vote for someone who failed on every woman's issue.

and no working person should have voted for someone who had nothing but disdain for people who work.

Except you use the term *moderate* interchangeably with *left*.

no.

 

[imawhosure]

He was Moderate, stayed moderate, and that is why he lost. The base didn't vote for him because he was moderate. Obama got far less votes in 12 than he did in 08 because people got tired of his shtick and figured him out. Romney got less votes than Mcain; and yet, there were MORE voters yet less votes cast. That should tell you they were BOTH losers!

Obama kicked the crap out of Republicans in 2008 because of the plethora of Bush failures around Republican's necks at the time. The Democrats could've nominated a dead fish in 2008 and won the presidency. In 2012 things normalized again and Obama actually had a semi-fair fight instead of a pushover. I say semi because the GOP is screwed regardless due to their alienation of minorities.

You may very well be correct. Many, many of us though, think you are wrong. We believe the democratic working class is tired of this crap, and we don't want another Bush or Romney, we want real contrast, and let the chips fall where they may.

We know that Hilly or Sanders will be a disaster; but that Jeb and his ilk will be not much better. Why fight over next to nothing? We will push and take our chances, win, lose, or draw with a real conservative who is not a religious fanatic.

 

[Papageorgio]

Democrats getting their panties in a wad over Trump.

Trump is making the elections n fun, so far.

Democrats are enjoying every minute of it. GO TRUMP!!!

Yeah, that's why you dumbshits are crapping on him.

Your paranoia is pretty touching.

 

[Papageorgio]

Democrats getting their panties in a wad over Trump.

Trump is making the elections n fun, so far.

Oh great, this gag line again.....just like Democrats were so terrified of Palin right?? Yeah, that's not how it is sorry.

Trump is popular right now for two reasons

1. Democrats enjoy laughing at him

2. Conservatives are in shock and awe of him

Keep making me laugh, you guys are yapping about anything he says, if you didn't care, you'd ignore.

Your theory is way of by the Dems actions.

 

[BULLDOG]

Democrats getting their panties in a wad over Trump.

Trump is making the elections n fun, so far.

Democrats are enjoying every minute of it. GO TRUMP!!!

Yeah, that's why you dumbshits are crapping on him.

Your paranoia is pretty touching.

I'm not aware of anyone actually crapping on him, and I would oppose that actually happening, but there is a lot of pointing and laughing.

 

[Katzndogz]

Will democrats be able to hang onto black voters while kissing mexican ass as the mexicans are killing blacks?

It's not politics, it's magic.