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[Yarddog]

Apparently you don't because you say nothing about the higher rate of white crime, nor do you talk about white on white crime.

The FBI just called and said that you're a liar...

"Of the offenders for whom race was known, 52.4 percent were black, 45.2 percent were white, and 2.4 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,077 offenders..."

Expanded Homicide Data

He's a little bit confused about "rates".. Apparently it's only the absolute number of anything that concerns him. Without doing the math to see how it pans out amongst various sub-groups of the question..

It's a massive WHITE crime wave to him. And blacks don't have a crime issue because more whites are criminals sort of thing. Liberal arts in action..

Yet he misquotes this "whites have a higher rate of crime" thing like he's done the math..

I'm not confused about a damn thing. Whites commit more crime. That's just the way it is. There is only one rate, the total.

All right then but by using that same logic we can say that even though the mortality rate for African American men due to high blood pressure is around 45% as a group and the mortality rate for white men as a group is about 24%, ... Its whites that have the more important medical issue here that really needs to be researched, because there's only ONE rate... the total. Whites have a higher population.

No, actually I think that doesn't work. Its African American men and women who have more of a problem with H blood pressure and heart disease because they suffer at a higher percentage. Total numbers based on population is not an accurate indicator when it comes to the issue of educating people.

Or rather, maybe the way numbers and statistics get used, depends on what the issue is and what side of the fence someone is on.

Whites commit more crime. Each year since I've began looking at the statistics since 1994 whites have had double and triple the amount of arrests for all crimes, the number of murders have been pretty much even and yet after 23 years of looking at how whites commit and are arrested for most of the crime in America whites steady excuse themselves by saying they have the majority of the population so they should be the majority of those committing crime. That is a bullshit excuse.

Whites have he majority of all resources necessary to reduce crime in their communities. Every study based on work done by people who deal with crime and behavior shows hat whites should have a crime 10 percent or less.. Instead its about 70 prcent. Instead of admitting they have a problem there are whites who want to point fingers at everyone else. In addition white lead in almost every category of crime but when the discussion turns to crime will dismiss their criminality to use murder as the claim got this high rate of overall black crime.

When we are talking about crime we are talking about the total numbers of all crimes committed. That is a specific number and that is the only number that any evaluation of crime should be based on.

So your saying each year after 1994 "white crime" rates have doubled and tripled? Do you have a link to those stats? Also, I'm not buying it from experts who say "whites" in America should have like a 10% over all crime rate. Whites in America for one thing are not a homogenous group as lets say Whites in Iceland or maybe Switzerland. That makes a pretty big difference. Whites in America consist of different ethnic groups from all over the world who arrived here at different times, often clashing with each other, and others. Just because people happen to be white doesnt mean resources are shared equally among their white bretheren to reduce crime.... It seems pretty far fetched that ever study based and crime and behaviour would come up with a 10% or less figure. Common sense based on the history and demographics of the US would tell you otherwise.

 

[IM2]

Wise only has a B.A. in political science so I'm afraid I'm going to have to say he's full of shit.

The difference between Wise and your uncle tom is that what Wise said s factually correct, it was not jus an opinion. Your black lawn jockey was completely incorrect in what he sad.

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Well, you seemed to think that Riley's opinions should be weighed against his education since you remarked that you were more educated than he is. I simply used the same yardstick.

Besides, there is some truth to what Wise says but he is full of it when he defends the violence of rioting blacks by comparing it to the Revolutionary War. I.E., that whites were willing to commit violence to achieve their ends. Here's the difference though: American whites did not start the violence, Britain did. All we did was declare our independence.
In the case of the black rioters, half the time they rioted after a police involved shooting, they did so immediately after the shooting instead of waiting to see if the investigation ruled it unjustified. Every time a cop shoots a black man they assume it was racially motivated and unjustified and then start looting, burning and destroying property of those who had nothing to do with it.

You are the one who decided that since Riley was a educated black man that he was saying something I might listen to. Those were your words, not mine. What Riley said was not factually correct. You posted what he said because you claim it was what white people were thinking. So what yardstick did you use?

You lie a lot ghost rider and what you believe is basically a lie. There have been thousands of situations where blacks have been shot by cops where there have been no riots or complaints. And there have been plenty of instances where whites have rioted without having a reason to.white people rioting in america - Yahoo Search Results
But in usual white racist fashion you ignore such things and only look for things blacks do.. In the riots you talk about they happened after the courts decided not to indict police who murdered unarmed blacks or blacks who were complying with the officers "request.

 

[IM2]

The FBI just called and said that you're a liar...

"Of the offenders for whom race was known, 52.4 percent were black, 45.2 percent were white, and 2.4 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,077 offenders..."

Expanded Homicide Data

He's a little bit confused about "rates".. Apparently it's only the absolute number of anything that concerns him. Without doing the math to see how it pans out amongst various sub-groups of the question..

It's a massive WHITE crime wave to him. And blacks don't have a crime issue because more whites are criminals sort of thing. Liberal arts in action..

Yet he misquotes this "whites have a higher rate of crime" thing like he's done the math..

I'm not confused about a damn thing. Whites commit more crime. That's just the way it is. There is only one rate, the total.

All right then but by using that same logic we can say that even though the mortality rate for African American men due to high blood pressure is around 45% as a group and the mortality rate for white men as a group is about 24%, ... Its whites that have the more important medical issue here that really needs to be researched, because there's only ONE rate... the total. Whites have a higher population.

No, actually I think that doesn't work. Its African American men and women who have more of a problem with H blood pressure and heart disease because they suffer at a higher percentage. Total numbers based on population is not an accurate indicator when it comes to the issue of educating people.

Or rather, maybe the way numbers and statistics get used, depends on what the issue is and what side of the fence someone is on.

Whites commit more crime. Each year since I've began looking at the statistics since 1994 whites have had double and triple the amount of arrests for all crimes, the number of murders have been pretty much even and yet after 23 years of looking at how whites commit and are arrested for most of the crime in America whites steady excuse themselves by saying they have the majority of the population so they should be the majority of those committing crime. That is a bullshit excuse.

Whites have he majority of all resources necessary to reduce crime in their communities. Every study based on work done by people who deal with crime and behavior shows hat whites should have a crime 10 percent or less.. Instead its about 70 prcent. Instead of admitting they have a problem there are whites who want to point fingers at everyone else. In addition white lead in almost every category of crime but when the discussion turns to crime will dismiss their criminality to use murder as the claim got this high rate of overall black crime.

When we are talking about crime we are talking about the total numbers of all crimes committed. That is a specific number and that is the only number that any evaluation of crime should be based on.

So what do you need reparations for?

Ask the Native Americans you pay every year that question.

 

[IM2]

The FBI just called and said that you're a liar...

"Of the offenders for whom race was known, 52.4 percent were black, 45.2 percent were white, and 2.4 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,077 offenders..."

Expanded Homicide Data

He's a little bit confused about "rates".. Apparently it's only the absolute number of anything that concerns him. Without doing the math to see how it pans out amongst various sub-groups of the question..

It's a massive WHITE crime wave to him. And blacks don't have a crime issue because more whites are criminals sort of thing. Liberal arts in action..

Yet he misquotes this "whites have a higher rate of crime" thing like he's done the math..

I'm not confused about a damn thing. Whites commit more crime. That's just the way it is. There is only one rate, the total.

All right then but by using that same logic we can say that even though the mortality rate for African American men due to high blood pressure is around 45% as a group and the mortality rate for white men as a group is about 24%, ... Its whites that have the more important medical issue here that really needs to be researched, because there's only ONE rate... the total. Whites have a higher population.

No, actually I think that doesn't work. Its African American men and women who have more of a problem with H blood pressure and heart disease because they suffer at a higher percentage. Total numbers based on population is not an accurate indicator when it comes to the issue of educating people.

Or rather, maybe the way numbers and statistics get used, depends on what the issue is and what side of the fence someone is on.

Whites commit more crime. Each year since I've began looking at the statistics since 1994 whites have had double and triple the amount of arrests for all crimes, the number of murders have been pretty much even and yet after 23 years of looking at how whites commit and are arrested for most of the crime in America whites steady excuse themselves by saying they have the majority of the population so they should be the majority of those committing crime. That is a bullshit excuse.

Whites have he majority of all resources necessary to reduce crime in their communities. Every study based on work done by people who deal with crime and behavior shows hat whites should have a crime 10 percent or less.. Instead its about 70 prcent. Instead of admitting they have a problem there are whites who want to point fingers at everyone else. In addition white lead in almost every category of crime but when the discussion turns to crime will dismiss their criminality to use murder as the claim got this high rate of overall black crime.

When we are talking about crime we are talking about the total numbers of all crimes committed. That is a specific number and that is the only number that any evaluation of crime should be based on.

So your saying each year after 1994 "white crime" rates have doubled and tripled? Do you have a link to those stats? Also, I'm not buying it from experts who say "whites" in America should have like a 10% over all crime rate. Whites in America for one thing are not a homogenous group as lets say Whites in Iceland or maybe Switzerland. That makes a pretty big difference. Whites in America consist of different ethnic groups from all over the world who arrived here at different times, often clashing with each other, and others. Just because people happen to be white doesnt mean resources are shared equally among their white bretheren to reduce crime.... It seems pretty far fetched that ever study based and crime and behaviour would come up with a 10% or less figure. Common sense based on the history and demographics of the US would tell you otherwise.

I am saying that every year since I have looked at this, that on an annual basis whites committed between double to triple the amount of crime as blacks. Not that white crimes have doubled and tripled. All you need to do in order to see this, is look at the UCR every year. And I am tired of whites who ask for links because we say whites fuck up more, but you guys say shit about us with no links and won't answer questions or show links to credible information that supports your opinions. Blacks are not a homogenous group either but we don't get to make that excuse when it comes to crime. Or really anything else. So you don't either.

There are black communities with very low rates of crime but this is never talked about by whites here. So why do we need to consider how all whites do not share equally in resources? When whites here talk about us this is never considered so until whites in here can do so I am going to look at white communities the same way most of you whites here look at ours.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Wise only has a B.A. in political science so I'm afraid I'm going to have to say he's full of shit.

The difference between Wise and your uncle tom is that what Wise said s factually correct, it was not jus an opinion. Your black lawn jockey was completely incorrect in what he sad.

.

Well, you seemed to think that Riley's opinions should be weighed against his education since you remarked that you were more educated than he is. I simply used the same yardstick.

Besides, there is some truth to what Wise says but he is full of it when he defends the violence of rioting blacks by comparing it to the Revolutionary War. I.E., that whites were willing to commit violence to achieve their ends. Here's the difference though: American whites did not start the violence, Britain did. All we did was declare our independence.
In the case of the black rioters, half the time they rioted after a police involved shooting, they did so immediately after the shooting instead of waiting to see if the investigation ruled it unjustified. Every time a cop shoots a black man they assume it was racially motivated and unjustified and then start looting, burning and destroying property of those who had nothing to do with it.

You are the one who decided that since Riley was a educated black man that he was saying something I might listen to. Those were your words, not mine.

First of all, I posted the link for anyone who might be interested to see what he had to say, not just for you. Secondly, I only said he was educated, not how much. You are the one who made the comparison.

What Riley said was not factually correct. You posted what he said because you claim it was what white people were thinking. So what yardstick did you use?

Yes, I claimed that he said what a lot of whites say about the relationship between law enforcement and the black community. So what?

You lie a lot ghost rider and what you believe is basically a lie. There have been thousands of situations where blacks have been shot by cops where there have been no riots or complaints. And there have been plenty of instances where whites have rioted without having a reason to.white people rioting in america - Yahoo Search Results

Of course there were shootings with no subsequent riots, any idiot knows that. But half the riots and protests that did happen, starting with the Michael Brown shooting up to now, happened right after the shooting and before any investigation was conducted. Not to mention the fact that in the Michael Brown case that started the whole mess, protesters started the "Hands up, don't shoot" gesture when it turned out to be bullshit as it was discovered that Brown never said or did any such thing.
In addition to all this, he matched the description of a black male in a white T-shirt who had just stolen cigars from a store and as it turns out, it was him. It was determined that Wilson acted accordingly and in self defense based on forensic evidence and witness testimony. Yet Brown is still viewed as some kind of Martyr.

But in usual white racist fashion you ignore such things and only look for things blacks do.. In the riots you talk about they happened after the courts decided not to indict police who murdered unarmed blacks or blacks who were complying with the officers "request.

Wise is the one who brought up black rioters in the video, remember? He's the one who made the comparison to Colonial Revolutionaries, not me. All I did was point out that these were entirely different circumstances, that there was no real comparison as in the case of the colonists, it was Britain that started the violence.

And once again you have twisted and conflated everything I've said and have labeled me a racist based on your own misinterpretations and simple disagreements from arguments you don't even remember. You've been doing this ever since the first time we interacted.

Have you even noticed that I've never called you racist or insulted your intelligence or insulted you in any way? That I never accused you of lying or called you a liar? Does that matter to you at all? Some of your posts to me look like this:

"Fuck! Fuckety fuck! racist Fuckety fuck fuck fuck! racist Fuckaboo, fuckaloo, fuck-uh-you! racist Fucking fuckety fuck and furthermore, FUCK!

 

[MizMolly]

Women are STILL held in pretty much slavery in a lot of places in the world. They go from being the property of their fathers to being the property of their husbands. Perhaps I should demand reparations from all men. Same thing. Lol.

Usually the response you will get is that the oppression being discussed is in AMERICA, not other countries, even though women were treated like second class citizens for centuries.

 

[MizMolly]

Apparently you don't because you say nothing about the higher rate of white crime, nor do you talk about white on white crime.

The FBI just called and said that you're a liar...

"Of the offenders for whom race was known, 52.4 percent were black, 45.2 percent were white, and 2.4 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,077 offenders..."

Expanded Homicide Data

He's a little bit confused about "rates".. Apparently it's only the absolute number of anything that concerns him. Without doing the math to see how it pans out amongst various sub-groups of the question..

It's a massive WHITE crime wave to him. And blacks don't have a crime issue because more whites are criminals sort of thing. Liberal arts in action..

Yet he misquotes this "whites have a higher rate of crime" thing like he's done the math..

I'm not confused about a damn thing. Whites commit more crime. That's just the way it is. There is only one rate, the total.

All right then but by using that same logic we can say that even though the mortality rate for African American men due to high blood pressure is around 45% as a group and the mortality rate for white men as a group is about 24%, ... Its whites that have the more important medical issue here that really needs to be researched, because there's only ONE rate... the total. Whites have a higher population.

No, actually I think that doesn't work. Its African American men and women who have more of a problem with H blood pressure and heart disease because they suffer at a higher percentage. Total numbers based on population is not an accurate indicator when it comes to the issue of educating people.

Or rather, maybe the way numbers and statistics get used, depends on what the issue is and what side of the fence someone is on.

Whites commit more crime. Each year since I've began looking at the statistics since 1994 whites have had double and triple the amount of arrests for all crimes, the number of murders have been pretty much even and yet after 23 years of looking at how whites commit and are arrested for most of the crime in America whites steady excuse themselves by saying they have the majority of the population so they should be the majority of those committing crime. That is a bullshit excuse.

Whites have he majority of all resources necessary to reduce crime in their communities. Every study based on work done by people who deal with crime and behavior shows hat whites should have a crime 10 percent or less.. Instead its about 70 prcent. Instead of admitting they have a problem there are whites who want to point fingers at everyone else. In addition white lead in almost every category of crime but when the discussion turns to crime will dismiss their criminality to use murder as the claim got this high rate of overall black crime.

When we are talking about crime we are talking about the total numbers of all crimes committed. That is a specific number and that is the only number that any evaluation of crime should be based on.

You are dense about per capita, there are MORE white people, plus there are many forms of crime. I am most concerned with the violent crimes.

 

[flacaltenn]

People will cite high violent crime as a problem in black communities and cannot understand that if we recognize the pattern of coping behaviors, aggression is one of the methods used to cope with stress.

That "stress" is caused by little black minds poisoned to believe that EDUCATION and learning is "too white". And they choose a Thug Culture that promotes killing, drugs, misogyny, and crime as their "cultural role model". Those cities choose to LOWER the academic expectations in their schools and ALLOW about 70% to graduate essentially uneducated and illiterate.

Those cities ABUSE working people just getting by sucking them up into a judicial system that's too rigid, not innovative and responsive to their plight and unconcerned with their tenuous economic situations. And they TAX everything to death. They are of NO HELP to fixing a damn thing. These leaders are MORE concerned about butchering the statistics to make them look good. Both academic statistics and crime statistics.

I didn't have a role in any of that. I'm part of the process to invent new ways of providing public services to the working class poor. What are YOU doing about it -- other than calling every white person a racist for not understanding the situation?

Wrong answer son. You've improved nothing. I've got racist policies changed that helped communities. I've helped blacks start and build businesses. I took kids out of gangs and helped then get post secondary educations. That just a few of the things I've done. I call you a racist because you are a racist.

Whites invented the thug culture bigot.



These people don't look black to me. They look as white as hell and they are thugs, misogynists, drug dealers who are criminals all promoted by white culture to the point of an award wining TV series. Now shut the fuck up.

All whites like you are is good for excuses. You're a loser.

You're wasting your time, social cons/white nationalists will double speak you to death. They sit here talking about "per capita" because that is the only argument they can make to support their agenda, but when the conversation is about police killing blacks at a rate of two times that of whites, then they want to forget about "per capita" and focus on total number. There is too many here with the same agenda to even attempt to discuss it. They just want you to smile and dance for them.

No really it's not racial at all. It's that you can't talk about "white people having higher RATES of crime then blacks" when the accurate statement is "white people commit MORE crimes than blacks"... Statistics are based on English words. What you're trying to PROVE has to match the math.

That latter statement is a snooze. Because it COMPARES NOTHING in terms of RELATIVE rates unless you normalize it per capita. You don't have to MAKE statistics racial.

 

[ATL]

People will cite high violent crime as a problem in black communities and cannot understand that if we recognize the pattern of coping behaviors, aggression is one of the methods used to cope with stress.

That "stress" is caused by little black minds poisoned to believe that EDUCATION and learning is "too white". And they choose a Thug Culture that promotes killing, drugs, misogyny, and crime as their "cultural role model". Those cities choose to LOWER the academic expectations in their schools and ALLOW about 70% to graduate essentially uneducated and illiterate.

Those cities ABUSE working people just getting by sucking them up into a judicial system that's too rigid, not innovative and responsive to their plight and unconcerned with their tenuous economic situations. And they TAX everything to death. They are of NO HELP to fixing a damn thing. These leaders are MORE concerned about butchering the statistics to make them look good. Both academic statistics and crime statistics.

I didn't have a role in any of that. I'm part of the process to invent new ways of providing public services to the working class poor. What are YOU doing about it -- other than calling every white person a racist for not understanding the situation?

Wrong answer son. You've improved nothing. I've got racist policies changed that helped communities. I've helped blacks start and build businesses. I took kids out of gangs and helped then get post secondary educations. That just a few of the things I've done. I call you a racist because you are a racist.

Whites invented the thug culture bigot.



These people don't look black to me. They look as white as hell and they are thugs, misogynists, drug dealers who are criminals all promoted by white culture to the point of an award wining TV series. Now shut the fuck up.

All whites like you are is good for excuses. You're a loser.

You're wasting your time, social cons/white nationalists will double speak you to death. They sit here talking about "per capita" because that is the only argument they can make to support their agenda, but when the conversation is about police killing blacks at a rate of two times that of whites, then they want to forget about "per capita" and focus on total number. There is too many here with the same agenda to even attempt to discuss it. They just want you to smile and dance for them.

No really it's not racial at all. It's that you can't talk about "white people having higher RATES of crime then blacks" when the accurate statement is "white people commit MORE crimes than blacks"... Statistics are based on English words. What you're trying to PROVE has to match the math.

That latter statement is a snooze. Because it COMPARES NOTHING in terms of RELATIVE rates unless you normalize it per capita. You don't have to MAKE statistics racial.

I'll believe that when the social cons/white nationalists stop using "per capita" argument to deflect from whatever topic they dont like to talk about.

Until then, I'll just keep pointing out the double standard.

 

[flacaltenn]

Wrong. But as usual none of you whites have the guts to look at yourselves and what YOU do. However you are sure willing to tell everyone else how they should do things.

I have plenty of guts to look at myself and the things I do. But what I don't do is act like some gangster thug, do drugs, carry an illegal firearm, and shoot people just because I feel that I've been slighted.

And yes, I'm very willing to tell people that they shouldn't do shit like that.

Apparently you don't because you say nothing about the higher rate of white crime, nor do you talk about white on white crime.

The FBI just called and said that you're a liar...

"Of the offenders for whom race was known, 52.4 percent were black, 45.2 percent were white, and 2.4 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,077 offenders..."

Expanded Homicide Data

He's a little bit confused about "rates".. Apparently it's only the absolute number of anything that concerns him. Without doing the math to see how it pans out amongst various sub-groups of the question..

It's a massive WHITE crime wave to him. And blacks don't have a crime issue because more whites are criminals sort of thing. Liberal arts in action..

Yet he misquotes this "whites have a higher rate of crime" thing like he's done the math..

I'm not confused about a damn thing. Whites commit more crime. That's just the way it is. There is only one rate, the total.

Whites commit more crime because their group is over 3 times bigger. Just like Pekinese bite more humans than Doberman.. Doesn't say a thing about which breed is MORE LIKELY to bite does it?

 

[IM2]

Wise only has a B.A. in political science so I'm afraid I'm going to have to say he's full of shit.

The difference between Wise and your uncle tom is that what Wise said s factually correct, it was not jus an opinion. Your black lawn jockey was completely incorrect in what he sad.

.

Well, you seemed to think that Riley's opinions should be weighed against his education since you remarked that you were more educated than he is. I simply used the same yardstick.

Besides, there is some truth to what Wise says but he is full of it when he defends the violence of rioting blacks by comparing it to the Revolutionary War. I.E., that whites were willing to commit violence to achieve their ends. Here's the difference though: American whites did not start the violence, Britain did. All we did was declare our independence.
In the case of the black rioters, half the time they rioted after a police involved shooting, they did so immediately after the shooting instead of waiting to see if the investigation ruled it unjustified. Every time a cop shoots a black man they assume it was racially motivated and unjustified and then start looting, burning and destroying property of those who had nothing to do with it.

You are the one who decided that since Riley was a educated black man that he was saying something I might listen to. Those were your words, not mine.

First of all, I posted the link for anyone who might be interested to see what he had to say, not just for you. Secondly, I only said he was educated, not how much. You are the one who made the comparison.

What Riley said was not factually correct. You posted what he said because you claim it was what white people were thinking. So what yardstick did you use?

Yes, I claimed that he said what a lot of whites say about the relationship between law enforcement and the black community. So what?

You lie a lot ghost rider and what you believe is basically a lie. There have been thousands of situations where blacks have been shot by cops where there have been no riots or complaints. And there have been plenty of instances where whites have rioted without having a reason to.white people rioting in america - Yahoo Search Results

Of course there were shootings with no subsequent riots, any idiot knows that. But half the riots and protests that did happen, starting with the Michael Brown shooting up to now, happened right after the shooting and before any investigation was conducted. Not to mention the fact that in the Michael Brown case that started the whole mess, protesters started the "Hands up, don't shoot" gesture when it turned out to be bullshit as it was discovered that Brown never said or did any such thing.
In addition to all this, he matched the description of a black male in a white T-shirt who had just stolen cigars from a store and as it turns out, it was him. It was determined that Wilson acted accordingly and in self defense based on forensic evidence and witness testimony. Yet Brown is still viewed as some kind of Martyr.

But in usual white racist fashion you ignore such things and only look for things blacks do.. In the riots you talk about they happened after the courts decided not to indict police who murdered unarmed blacks or blacks who were complying with the officers "request.

Wise is the one who brought up black rioters in the video, remember? He's the one who made the comparison to Colonial Revolutionaries, not me. All I did was point out that these were entirely different circumstances, that there was no real comparison as in the case of the colonists, it was Britain that started the violence.

And once again you have twisted and conflated everything I've said and have labeled me a racist based on your own misinterpretations and simple disagreements from arguments you don't even remember. You've been doing this ever since the first time we interacted.

Have you even noticed that I've never called you racist or insulted your intelligence or insulted you in any way? That I never accused you of lying or called you a liar? Does that matter to you at all? Some of your posts to me look like this:

"Fuck! Fuckety fuck! racist Fuckety fuck fuck fuck! racist Fuckaboo, fuckaloo, fuck-uh-you! racist Fucking fuckety fuck and furthermore, FUCK!

I'm not going to waste a lot of words with you. Because it's the same thing every time. This thread is about whites looking at themselves to understand how there is such a dramatic ability for some whites to see overt injustice and modern white racism while others deny it. You have yet to do that. Reparations have nothing to do with that but you aren't interested in addressing this subject. This is always what you racists here do. If the thread is about the so called wrongs ad failings of blacks you are ready to run your mouth off at Nascar speed. But when it comes to looking at what whites do wrong you and those like you can't do that. This is apparently because you don't think you need to. And that means you think you are superior. Hence you are a racist.

Let me show you a couple of examples of why I call you a racist. You suggested I read something from Jason Reilly. You did that because he said things the way whites saw them. And despite the fact I have bee black for 57 years and have seen things that have caused problems in the black community, I cannot be correct because I don't believe things are as whites see them so I can't be right. You stated the mess in Ferguson was started by blacks with the hand up don't shoot. But the mess was started by a white cop who murdered an unarmed black kid. You ignore all wrongs done by whites.

 

[Moonglow]

White is not a race, it's a skin tone.

 

[IM2]

I have plenty of guts to look at myself and the things I do. But what I don't do is act like some gangster thug, do drugs, carry an illegal firearm, and shoot people just because I feel that I've been slighted.

And yes, I'm very willing to tell people that they shouldn't do shit like that.

Apparently you don't because you say nothing about the higher rate of white crime, nor do you talk about white on white crime.

The FBI just called and said that you're a liar...

"Of the offenders for whom race was known, 52.4 percent were black, 45.2 percent were white, and 2.4 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,077 offenders..."

Expanded Homicide Data

He's a little bit confused about "rates".. Apparently it's only the absolute number of anything that concerns him. Without doing the math to see how it pans out amongst various sub-groups of the question..

It's a massive WHITE crime wave to him. And blacks don't have a crime issue because more whites are criminals sort of thing. Liberal arts in action..

Yet he misquotes this "whites have a higher rate of crime" thing like he's done the math..

I'm not confused about a damn thing. Whites commit more crime. That's just the way it is. There is only one rate, the total.

Whites commit more crime because their group is over 3 times bigger. Just like Pekinese bite more humans than Doberman.. Doesn't say a thing about which breed is MORE LIKELY to bite does it?

Piss poor excuse. ..

 

[IM2]

White is not a race, it's a skin tone.

As long as skin tone determines race, white is a race.

 

[flacaltenn]

Apparently you don't because you say nothing about the higher rate of white crime, nor do you talk about white on white crime.

The FBI just called and said that you're a liar...

"Of the offenders for whom race was known, 52.4 percent were black, 45.2 percent were white, and 2.4 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,077 offenders..."

Expanded Homicide Data

He's a little bit confused about "rates".. Apparently it's only the absolute number of anything that concerns him. Without doing the math to see how it pans out amongst various sub-groups of the question..

It's a massive WHITE crime wave to him. And blacks don't have a crime issue because more whites are criminals sort of thing. Liberal arts in action..

Yet he misquotes this "whites have a higher rate of crime" thing like he's done the math..

I'm not confused about a damn thing. Whites commit more crime. That's just the way it is. There is only one rate, the total.

Whites commit more crime because their group is over 3 times bigger. Just like Pekinese bite more humans than Doberman.. Doesn't say a thing about which breed is MORE LIKELY to bite does it?

Piss poor excuse. ..

It's not an excuse. That's the language of communicating with statistics and facts. You might get away with loose and fast at a street rally. But not ever in any kind of meaningful debate or conversation..

 

[IM2]

White Men: Time to Discover Your Cultural Blind Spots | Michael Welp

 

[IM2]

The FBI just called and said that you're a liar...

"Of the offenders for whom race was known, 52.4 percent were black, 45.2 percent were white, and 2.4 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,077 offenders..."

Expanded Homicide Data

He's a little bit confused about "rates".. Apparently it's only the absolute number of anything that concerns him. Without doing the math to see how it pans out amongst various sub-groups of the question..

It's a massive WHITE crime wave to him. And blacks don't have a crime issue because more whites are criminals sort of thing. Liberal arts in action..

Yet he misquotes this "whites have a higher rate of crime" thing like he's done the math..

I'm not confused about a damn thing. Whites commit more crime. That's just the way it is. There is only one rate, the total.

Whites commit more crime because their group is over 3 times bigger. Just like Pekinese bite more humans than Doberman.. Doesn't say a thing about which breed is MORE LIKELY to bite does it?

Piss poor excuse. ..

It's not an excuse. That's the language of communicating with statistics and facts. You might get away with loose and fast at a street rally. But not ever in any kind of meaningful debate or conversation..

It is an excuse. A poor excuse. And I say that with the same knowledge of fact as you in regard to population.

 

[JoeMoma]

Women are STILL held in pretty much slavery in a lot of places in the world. They go from being the property of their fathers to being the property of their husbands. Perhaps I should demand reparations from all men. Same thing. Lol.

I might be able to swing two goats and one sheep for you.

 

[JoeMoma]

The FBI just called and said that you're a liar...

"Of the offenders for whom race was known, 52.4 percent were black, 45.2 percent were white, and 2.4 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,077 offenders..."

Expanded Homicide Data

He's a little bit confused about "rates".. Apparently it's only the absolute number of anything that concerns him. Without doing the math to see how it pans out amongst various sub-groups of the question..

It's a massive WHITE crime wave to him. And blacks don't have a crime issue because more whites are criminals sort of thing. Liberal arts in action..

Yet he misquotes this "whites have a higher rate of crime" thing like he's done the math..

I'm not confused about a damn thing. Whites commit more crime. That's just the way it is. There is only one rate, the total.

All right then but by using that same logic we can say that even though the mortality rate for African American men due to high blood pressure is around 45% as a group and the mortality rate for white men as a group is about 24%, ... Its whites that have the more important medical issue here that really needs to be researched, because there's only ONE rate... the total. Whites have a higher population.

No, actually I think that doesn't work. Its African American men and women who have more of a problem with H blood pressure and heart disease because they suffer at a higher percentage. Total numbers based on population is not an accurate indicator when it comes to the issue of educating people.

Or rather, maybe the way numbers and statistics get used, depends on what the issue is and what side of the fence someone is on.

Whites commit more crime. Each year since I've began looking at the statistics since 1994 whites have had double and triple the amount of arrests for all crimes, the number of murders have been pretty much even and yet after 23 years of looking at how whites commit and are arrested for most of the crime in America whites steady excuse themselves by saying they have the majority of the population so they should be the majority of those committing crime. That is a bullshit excuse.

Whites have he majority of all resources necessary to reduce crime in their communities. Every study based on work done by people who deal with crime and behavior shows hat whites should have a crime 10 percent or less.. Instead its about 70 prcent. Instead of admitting they have a problem there are whites who want to point fingers at everyone else. In addition white lead in almost every category of crime but when the discussion turns to crime will dismiss their criminality to use murder as the claim got this high rate of overall black crime.

When we are talking about crime we are talking about the total numbers of all crimes committed. That is a specific number and that is the only number that any evaluation of crime should be based on.

You are dense about per capita, there are MORE white people, plus there are many forms of crime. I am most concerned with the violent crimes.

IM2 doesn’t do per capita when it hurts his narrative.

 

[flacaltenn]

White Men: Time to Discover Your Cultural Blind Spots | Michael Welp

Oh my.. More reconcilation.. Thought you hated that. This guy thinks white men don't discuss their own racial biases and experiences. That's not true. I'm spent LOTS of time with white racists. Backing them off of THEIR racist programming and propaganda.

In the end -- better to work at reconcilation with the "able - minded" and IGNORE the racists. They contribute nothing. And they are a minority in ALL races. Real progress is made FROM reconcilation and exercises of trust and faith in social settings. That's where racial progress is made. If it takes white males to talk to white male racists or black males to talk with black male racists -- don't care. It's largely a waste of time.

Society moves on. Faster then the govt or the racists can attempt to control the situation...