The difference between "liberalism" and what Republicans think Liberalism is:

[buckeye45_73]

And conservatives today are not what they use to be.

What were they and how are they different today? Are you referring to the Robert Taft type of conservative or the William f. Buckley type?

Goldwater
Prior to Christian Conservatism

So you dont like conservatives now, because they dont approve of buttfucking?

 

[rdean]

The primary difference between Conservatives and liberals is:

-Conservatives promote an ideology that worked fairly well before 1890, when America was primarily agrarian, pioneering & seafaring nation. People were much more economically independant from one another. For most people their day to day welfare and livilihood was more dependant on the weather than by anything else.

-Liberals/Progressives promote an ideology based on the real needs of a modern industrialized soceity. They recognise that everyone is economically interdependant. They also realize that without government intervention, capitalism will destroy the lives of the vast majority of the people, rendering them to worse than slavery conditions. Furthermore, they realize that the wealth of the people who benefit the most in a capitalist soceity is entirely created by the labor of the common people. The wealthy contribute only in directing and organizing resources (and lately, they've been doing a piss poor job).

That is actually a tiny slice of both. I believe the definitions are much broader and encompass everything from social justice to foreign policy.

 

[rdean]

Strange the way Republicans and conservatives on this board are always saying what "liberalism" is. Where do they get such nonsense?

Is it because they have no liberals in their party? So what they imagine comes out of the Twilight Zone?

And worse, after all the failures of the last 10 years, how did they get so confident about their own ideology?

Liberal equals, too big to fail government where even your birthday candles are regulated and prohibited. See NY!

Yes there are liberals with the repub party too. The last few elections have been dem or dem light. Hell you ought to be happier then a clam at high tide with your ideologies being played in one degree or the other by both parties.

Whats up?

There are no liberals in the Republican Party and you can't name any.

 

[rdean]

Bitch all you want about not having a "real conservative". Fact is, you guys campaign excitedly about many of your presidents, including George Bush, and always declare them to not be a "true conservative". And the guy you DO call a real conservative wasn't who you fucking thought he was!

Whats up Cowbell???

I certainly would not vote for Al Gore... John Kerry... or Barak Obama

Heres what I dont get though...

Why support the Bush's and the Romney's if they arent "true conservatives"?

Obama is FAR more right than I expected him to be when I voted for him. I expected s fsr more progressive agenda from him. But hes to the left of Romney so he gets my vote this time around...Im voting NOT Romney.

So is it pretty much the same for you? are you voting NOT Obama as opposed to Yes Romney? Thats something I can understand. I dont get conservatives getting excited about Romney though.

The difference is "skin deep". Something we learned in the "Deep South".

 

[rdean]

What were they and how are they different today? Are you referring to the Robert Taft type of conservative or the William f. Buckley type?

Goldwater
Prior to Christian Conservatism

So you dont like conservatives now, because they dont approve of buttfucking?

You are such a nasty fuck.

 

[Flopper]

What were they and how are they different today? Are you referring to the Robert Taft type of conservative or the William f. Buckley type?

Goldwater
Prior to Christian Conservatism

So you dont like conservatives now, because they dont approve of buttfucking?

No, I don't like conservatism as it is currently portrayed because it's based on the premise that an aristocracy is better than the common people and it uses religion as a tool to establish that aristocracy.

 

[Vidi]

What were they and how are they different today? Are you referring to the Robert Taft type of conservative or the William f. Buckley type?

Goldwater
Prior to Christian Conservatism

So you dont like conservatives now, because they dont approve of buttfucking?

I dont know where you get that idea.

They seem to be involved in it every chance they get...I serious doubt they actually disapprove of it.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Strange the way Republicans and conservatives on this board are always saying what "liberalism" is. Where do they get such nonsense?

Is it because they have no liberals in their party? So what they imagine comes out of the Twilight Zone?

And worse, after all the failures of the last 10 years, how did they get so confident about their own ideology?

you going to stick around for this one Dean?.......will you respond to Questions?....or will it by like your other threads?.....

Unlike you, I have a job.

yea you have been here less time than me.....but have like 5-6 thousand more posts.....i hear ya Dean....is it part time?.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Strange the way Republicans and conservatives on this board are always saying what "liberalism" is. Where do they get such nonsense?

Is it because they have no liberals in their party? So what they imagine comes out of the Twilight Zone?

And worse, after all the failures of the last 10 years, how did they get so confident about their own ideology?

Liberal equals, too big to fail government where even your birthday candles are regulated and prohibited. See NY!

Yes there are liberals with the repub party too. The last few elections have been dem or dem light. Hell you ought to be happier then a clam at high tide with your ideologies being played in one degree or the other by both parties.

Whats up?

There are no liberals in the Republican Party and you can't name any.

when you said long ago in another thread their are no "Moderate Republicans" and said name one.....i said Arnold.....you said ok thats one.....bet you cant name another.....

 

[kwc57]

Sure they do, Repubs just seem way more whiny and aggressive using sarcasm and counter points but almost never having a point. I use the board as an example. I asked a question about lobbiest and their influence on politics...non partisan...didnt blame anyone or any party. The first response was "Ask Obamalama" followed by "Why didnt Obama...?"

Every answer has Obama in it....Sure sure, you'll probably say "The Dems did it to Bush too!" Every answer is a non answer or an attempt to assign blame.

Tell yourself whatever you need to to get yourself thru the night sweetheart.

Thanks for saying nothing in 2 posts...Like I said you have no retort just whining and crying.

Comprehension | Target the Problem! | Helping Struggling Readers | Reading Rockets

You can thank me later.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Tell yourself whatever you need to to get yourself thru the night sweetheart.

Thanks for saying nothing in 2 posts...Like I said you have no retort just whining and crying.

Comprehension | Target the Problem! | Helping Struggling Readers | Reading Rockets

You can thank me later.

 

[kwc57]

Thanks for saying nothing in 2 posts...Like I said you have no retort just whining and crying.

Comprehension | Target the Problem! | Helping Struggling Readers | Reading Rockets

You can thank me later.

And there you go again.

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[rdean]

Thanks for saying nothing in 2 posts...Like I said you have no retort just whining and crying.

Comprehension | Target the Problem! | Helping Struggling Readers | Reading Rockets

You can thank me later.

Which issues? Be consistent.

 

[rdean]

Goldwater
Prior to Christian Conservatism

So you dont like conservatives now, because they dont approve of buttfucking?

No, I don't like conservatism as it is currently portrayed because it's based on the premise that an aristocracy is better than the common people and it uses religion as a tool to establish that aristocracy.

It is strange that people who feel their freedom is threatened want to turn that freedom over to corporations. Stranger still is this notion they believe in Jesus and follow Jesus. "Those", Republicans insist on following, Jesus called "moneylenders". He chased them out of his father's house, or so the story goes.
Strangest of all, the Republican Party has become incredibly heartless and dangerous. "Let him die" "Education is for snobs" "Applauding executions" "Feed the poor and they'll breed" and so on. These are the messages of today's Republican Party. Nothing Jesus would possibly approve of.

 

[Harry Dresden]

So you dont like conservatives now, because they dont approve of buttfucking?

No, I don't like conservatism as it is currently portrayed because it's based on the premise that an aristocracy is better than the common people and it uses religion as a tool to establish that aristocracy.

It is strange that people who feel their freedom is threatened want to turn that freedom over to corporations. Stranger still is this notion they believe in Jesus and follow Jesus. "Those", Republicans insist on following, Jesus called "moneylenders". He chased them out of his father's house, or so the story goes.
Strangest of all, the Republican Party has become incredibly heartless and dangerous. "Let him die" "Education is for snobs" "Applauding executions" "Feed the poor and they'll breed" and so on. These are the messages of today's Republican Party. Nothing Jesus would possibly approve of.

and yet that Democrat Gov Brown has cut Education,the budget for programs helping the Elderly,the Handicapped,the Infirmed....that fucker is just so incredibly heartless and dangerous. .....your right Dean....those kinds of people do exist....

 

[VaeVictis]

Strange the way Republicans and conservatives on this board are always saying what "liberalism" is. Where do they get such nonsense?

Is it because they have no liberals in their party? So what they imagine comes out of the Twilight Zone?

And worse, after all the failures of the last 10 years, how did they get so confident about their own ideology?

You have no idea what your talking about, "True" liberalism is more akin to Conservatism. You are a big government nanny statist, in other words your a Socialist.

Classical Liberalism-

"A political belief in which primary emphasis is placed on securing the freedom of the individual by limiting the power of the state. In its economic form, it advocates a respect for private property and free markets."

Your Ideology-

"Classical Liberalism should also not be confused with modern, American liberalism, which is a mild variation of socialism."

 

[Stephanie]

So you dont like conservatives now, because they dont approve of buttfucking?

No, I don't like conservatism as it is currently portrayed because it's based on the premise that an aristocracy is better than the common people and it uses religion as a tool to establish that aristocracy.

It is strange that people who feel their freedom is threatened want to turn that freedom over to corporations. Stranger still is this notion they believe in Jesus and follow Jesus. "Those", Republicans insist on following, Jesus called "moneylenders". He chased them out of his father's house, or so the story goes.
Strangest of all, the Republican Party has become incredibly heartless and dangerous. "Let him die" "Education is for snobs" "Applauding executions" "Feed the poor and they'll breed" and so on. These are the messages of today's Republican Party. Nothing Jesus would possibly approve of.

you need to break that broken record...it's rather old and scratched

 

[The T]

No, I don't like conservatism as it is currently portrayed because it's based on the premise that an aristocracy is better than the common people and it uses religion as a tool to establish that aristocracy.

It is strange that people who feel their freedom is threatened want to turn that freedom over to corporations. Stranger still is this notion they believe in Jesus and follow Jesus. "Those", Republicans insist on following, Jesus called "moneylenders". He chased them out of his father's house, or so the story goes.
Strangest of all, the Republican Party has become incredibly heartless and dangerous. "Let him die" "Education is for snobs" "Applauding executions" "Feed the poor and they'll breed" and so on. These are the messages of today's Republican Party. Nothing Jesus would possibly approve of.

you need to break that broken record...it's rather old and scratched

Deany is nothing but a repository for corrupted data.

 

[Stephanie]

It is strange that people who feel their freedom is threatened want to turn that freedom over to corporations. Stranger still is this notion they believe in Jesus and follow Jesus. "Those", Republicans insist on following, Jesus called "moneylenders". He chased them out of his father's house, or so the story goes.
Strangest of all, the Republican Party has become incredibly heartless and dangerous. "Let him die" "Education is for snobs" "Applauding executions" "Feed the poor and they'll breed" and so on. These are the messages of today's Republican Party. Nothing Jesus would possibly approve of.

you need to break that broken record...it's rather old and scratched

Deany is nothing but a repository for corrupted data.

the same shit over and over and over and over and over and over...a total BORE

 

[The T]

you need to break that broken record...it's rather old and scratched

Deany is nothing but a repository for corrupted data.

the same shit over and over and over and over and over and over...a total BORE

Indeed. Boorish is a great word. Maybe if he knew the word he'd cease?

NAH...He wouldn't care as is evident by his continuance of boorish threads.

He doesn't care he's outclassed.

Whatever makes him happy. I have an arsenal to counter as we all do.

Idiots as dean hang themselves.