The Delusion that Government can be Limited

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Many conservatives and libertarians support a concept they call "limited government." Here's an rough explanation of why that phrase is an oxymoron:

With all the Cheers and Jeers of C-PAC 2015 fading into Yesterday’s News, let us carpe the diem to add to the growing list of oxymoronic fantasies in desperate need of extinction, a term heard early and often whenever conservatives and libertarians congregate: “Limited Government”. Like “settled science”, the Tooth Fairy and Honest Politicians, not only is there no such thing, there never has been.

The utter nonsense that a piece of parchment, even inscribed with swell ideas, can successfully “limit” the Leviathan, i.e. Big Government has been proven ludicrous for 226 years; considerably longer if we include all recorded human history. Like Shelley’s Dr. Frankenstein, the Bush and Obama administrations brought to life Government as “a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” Constitutional “protection” of our natural rights from Government trampling has morphed from an American ideal fortified by the Rule of Law into a Bad Joke inflicted by the increasing immorality inherent in the leaders of a crumbling empire; a tragedy being acted out in the daily news to an audience that only craves bread and circuses. And cute Budweiser commercials.

“[The] conservative keeps repeating the litany that the central government should be severely limited by a constitution. Yet, at the same time that he rails against the corruption of the original Constitution and the widening of federal power since 1789, the conservative fails to draw the proper lesson from that degeneration. The idea of a strictly limited constitutional State was a noble experiment that failed, even under the most favorable and propitious circumstances. If it failed then, why should a similar experiment fare any better now?” -
For A New Liberty – Murray Rothbard

While I didn’t see a C-PAC Meet-Up to discuss this, it is precisely the question conservatives, Republicans and not a few Libertarians need to reconcile. While any measurable reduction in Rights Violations and Property Confiscation would be welcome from the all-consuming monstrosity languishing inside the Logic Free Zone, with spawn festering in State pustules across the fetid plane, there isn’t enough ganja in the hills of Jamaica to successfully delude one into believing “limited government” could actually happen or be sustained. Individually and collectively, the “governing” gangs of flaming sociopaths are too broke, too desperate to feed their addiction to power and control to ever – ever – entertain the notion of Limited Anything except the Limited Liberty of its constituents servants slaves.
You can read the rest here: Slouching Toward Extinction LewRockwell.com
 
Government needs to invest in infrastructure, science and r&d to be a first world nation. Haiti can get away with a small pointless government.

There is of course a difference between a corrupt government and a "smart, accountable government".
 
Government needs to invest in infrastructure, science and r&d to be a first world nation. Haiti can get away with a small pointless government.

There is of course a difference between a corrupt government and a "smart, accountable government".

Yes, the latter is an oxymoron. The former is inevitable.

Government, like cancer, needs to be eliminated.
 
Many conservatives and libertarians support a concept they call "limited government." Here's an rough explanation of why that phrase is an oxymoron:

With all the Cheers and Jeers of C-PAC 2015 fading into Yesterday’s News, let us carpe the diem to add to the growing list of oxymoronic fantasies in desperate need of extinction, a term heard early and often whenever conservatives and libertarians congregate: “Limited Government”. Like “settled science”, the Tooth Fairy and Honest Politicians, not only is there no such thing, there never has been.

The utter nonsense that a piece of parchment, even inscribed with swell ideas, can successfully “limit” the Leviathan, i.e. Big Government has been proven ludicrous for 226 years; considerably longer if we include all recorded human history. Like Shelley’s Dr. Frankenstein, the Bush and Obama administrations brought to life Government as “a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” Constitutional “protection” of our natural rights from Government trampling has morphed from an American ideal fortified by the Rule of Law into a Bad Joke inflicted by the increasing immorality inherent in the leaders of a crumbling empire; a tragedy being acted out in the daily news to an audience that only craves bread and circuses. And cute Budweiser commercials.

“[The] conservative keeps repeating the litany that the central government should be severely limited by a constitution. Yet, at the same time that he rails against the corruption of the original Constitution and the widening of federal power since 1789, the conservative fails to draw the proper lesson from that degeneration. The idea of a strictly limited constitutional State was a noble experiment that failed, even under the most favorable and propitious circumstances. If it failed then, why should a similar experiment fare any better now?” -
For A New Liberty – Murray Rothbard

While I didn’t see a C-PAC Meet-Up to discuss this, it is precisely the question conservatives, Republicans and not a few Libertarians need to reconcile. While any measurable reduction in Rights Violations and Property Confiscation would be welcome from the all-consuming monstrosity languishing inside the Logic Free Zone, with spawn festering in State pustules across the fetid plane, there isn’t enough ganja in the hills of Jamaica to successfully delude one into believing “limited government” could actually happen or be sustained. Individually and collectively, the “governing” gangs of flaming sociopaths are too broke, too desperate to feed their addiction to power and control to ever – ever – entertain the notion of Limited Anything except the Limited Liberty of its constituents servants slaves.
You can read the rest here: Slouching Toward Extinction LewRockwell.com

Yo, the only way to tell? If they get the Majority, when I say Majority, I mean the Dems have no say what the Republicans pass, in the House, Senate, and a Republican President, who will stand with the :dunno: Constitution, if not, than they are no different than the Radical Dems!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
 
Many conservatives and libertarians support a concept they call "limited government." Here's an rough explanation of why that phrase is an oxymoron:

With all the Cheers and Jeers of C-PAC 2015 fading into Yesterday’s News, let us carpe the diem to add to the growing list of oxymoronic fantasies in desperate need of extinction, a term heard early and often whenever conservatives and libertarians congregate: “Limited Government”. Like “settled science”, the Tooth Fairy and Honest Politicians, not only is there no such thing, there never has been.

The utter nonsense that a piece of parchment, even inscribed with swell ideas, can successfully “limit” the Leviathan, i.e. Big Government has been proven ludicrous for 226 years; considerably longer if we include all recorded human history. Like Shelley’s Dr. Frankenstein, the Bush and Obama administrations brought to life Government as “a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” Constitutional “protection” of our natural rights from Government trampling has morphed from an American ideal fortified by the Rule of Law into a Bad Joke inflicted by the increasing immorality inherent in the leaders of a crumbling empire; a tragedy being acted out in the daily news to an audience that only craves bread and circuses. And cute Budweiser commercials.

“[The] conservative keeps repeating the litany that the central government should be severely limited by a constitution. Yet, at the same time that he rails against the corruption of the original Constitution and the widening of federal power since 1789, the conservative fails to draw the proper lesson from that degeneration. The idea of a strictly limited constitutional State was a noble experiment that failed, even under the most favorable and propitious circumstances. If it failed then, why should a similar experiment fare any better now?” -
For A New Liberty – Murray Rothbard

While I didn’t see a C-PAC Meet-Up to discuss this, it is precisely the question conservatives, Republicans and not a few Libertarians need to reconcile. While any measurable reduction in Rights Violations and Property Confiscation would be welcome from the all-consuming monstrosity languishing inside the Logic Free Zone, with spawn festering in State pustules across the fetid plane, there isn’t enough ganja in the hills of Jamaica to successfully delude one into believing “limited government” could actually happen or be sustained. Individually and collectively, the “governing” gangs of flaming sociopaths are too broke, too desperate to feed their addiction to power and control to ever – ever – entertain the notion of Limited Anything except the Limited Liberty of its constituents servants slaves.
You can read the rest here: Slouching Toward Extinction LewRockwell.com

Yo, the only way to tell? If they get the Majority, when I say Majority, I mean the Dems have no say what the Republicans pass, in the House, Senate, and a Republican President, who will stand with the :dunno: Constitution, if not, than they are no different than the Radical Dems!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"

We already have enough evidence to tell.
 

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