The Death Rattle Of A Nation

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The so-called "death rattle" refers to a gurgling sound that individuals often make during the dying process. When people are no longer able to swallow or cough, saliva builds up in the back of the throat and the airways causing a "rattling" sound when air passes through.

The sound many sensitive,discerning and thoughtful politically astute people are hearing from America today is very similar to a 'death rattle'.


Some of the following was gleaned from a sermon by Dr. J. Vernon McGee....
The historian Gibbon concluded that there were five reasons for the decline and fall of Rome.

(1) The undermining of the dignity and sanctity of the home, which is the basis of human society.

(2) Higher and higher taxes; the spending of public money for free bread and circuses for the populace.

(3) The mad craze for pleasure; sports becoming every year more exciting, more brutal, more immoral.

(4) The building of great armaments when the great enemy was within; the decay of individual responsibility.

(5) The decay of religion, fading into mere form, losing touch with life, losing power to guide the people.



"The first step in a nation's decline is religious apostasy, a turning from the living and true God. The second step downward for a nation is moral awfulness. The third step downward is political anarchy." fr. a sermon by Dr. J. Vernon Mcgee

"A great many people in the United States today think that our problem is in Washington, D.C. — I don't think so. Another group of people feel that if people could be reformed, if we could get people to act nicely, not be violent and not steal, if we could just lift our moral standards, then that would solve our problems. Again, I don't think that is the problem. Very frankly, I believe that the problem in this country is religious apostasy. The problem is out yonder with you and right here with me. The problem is that the church has failed to give God's message. I am not talking about every church or your church necessarily. There are many Bible-teaching churches across this country which have wonderful pastors who are standing for God — and I thank God for them. But the great denominations, by and large, have now departed from the faith. They have come to the place where they no longer give an effective message to the nation. As a result, from this religious apostasy have flowed moral awfulness and political anarchy." J. Vernon McGee



The American people are now on a toboggan hurtling down a ice covered slope on the way to eternal judgement that will assign them to the dustbin of history.

Idolatry is where every great nation has gone off the track. When a nation departs from the living and true God or when it gives up great moral principles which were based on religion, when it goes into idolatry, these factors eventually lead it into gross immorality and into political anarchy.
http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/...isten/the-death-rattle-of-a-nation-47595.html
With apologies to Dr. J. Vernon McGee
 
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The Subtitle to "Rise and Fall" was "Obama's Transformed America"

We were the Number 1 economy and Super power on the planet, what "transformation" did he have in mind?
 
The OP seems to have left out many more important facts about the fall of Western Rome, the Eastern empire lasted another 1000 years..

1. Military overreach of an area difficult to defend.

2. Pax Romana on an empire which could only survive by military conquests.

3. Interfighting of those in govt. and those that sought to control the empire.

4. Barbarian hordes from the Asian steppe which over ran the defenses of a long stretching border.

But then again I am a historian without a political agenda.
 
This betrayal of Christ in the name of Christianity is one reason for the moral and spiritual malaise with which this country is afflicted.


Christ seemed to have no problem with the slaughter of the natives to establish this nation....
 
I also want to know where in the hell is our free circus and gladiatorial fights, not to mention the chariot races with Charlton Heston...?
 
religious apostasy- a proud tradition of humans since the agricultural revolution....maybe even to the time of the hunter/gather societies...

Screw your God this nation is doing ok, it could be worse...
 
The so-called "death rattle" refers to a gurgling sound that individuals often make during the dying process. When people are no longer able to swallow or cough, saliva builds up in the back of the throat and the airways causing a "rattling" sound when air passes through.

The sound many sensitive,discerning and thoughtful politically astute people are hearing from America today is very similar to a 'death rattle'.

The historian Gibbon concluded that there were five reasons for the decline and fall of Rome.

(1) The undermining of the dignity and sanctity of the home, which is the basis of human society.

(2) Higher and higher taxes; the spending of public money for free bread and circuses for the populace.

(3) The mad craze for pleasure; sports becoming every year more exciting, more brutal, more immoral.

(4) The building of great armaments when the great enemy was within; the decay of individual responsibility.

(5) The decay of religion, fading into mere form, losing touch with life, losing power to guide the people.



The first step in a nation's decline is religious apostasy, a turning from the living and true God. The second step downward for a nation is moral awfulness. The third step downward is political anarchy.

A great many people in the United States today think that our problem is in Washington, D.C. — I don't think so. Another group of people feel that if people could be reformed, if we could get people to act nicely, not be violent and not steal, if we could just lift our moral standards, then that would solve our problems. Again, I don't think that is the problem. Very frankly, I believe that the problem in this country is religious apostasy. The problem is out yonder with you and right here with me. The problem is that the church has failed to give God's message. I am not talking about every church or your church necessarily. There are many Bible-teaching churches across this country which have wonderful pastors who are standing for God — and I thank God for them. But the great denominations, by and large, have now departed from the faith. They have come to the place where they no longer give an effective message to the nation. As a result, from this religious apostasy have flowed moral awfulness and political anarchy.

If you think that this is just the wild raving of a fundamentalist, you are wrong. Let me quote an excerpt from an editorial in a major metropolitan newspaper a number of years ago. Speaking of the failure of the churches to present any spiritual message whatsoever, the editorial concluded:

This betrayal of Christ in the name of Christianity is one reason for the moral and spiritual malaise with which this country is afflicted. The melancholy fact is that the churches no longer influence the development of national character. People go to church mainly because of an impulse to participate in a service of worship, not because of any spiritual guidance they expect from the clergyman.

What a note of condemnation this is! This is true not just of our nation but of every nation.

The American people are now on a toboggan hurtling down a ice covered slope on the way to eternal judgement that will assign them to the dustbin of history.

Idolatry is where every great nation has gone off the track. When a nation departs from the living and true God or when it gives up great moral principles which were based on religion, when it goes into idolatry, these factors eventually lead it into gross immorality and into political anarchy.

With apologies to Dr. J. Vernon McGee

The death rattle you hear is the old bitter neo confederate teahadists gasping for air and circling the drain
 
The so-called "death rattle" refers to a gurgling sound that individuals often make during the dying process. When people are no longer able to swallow or cough, saliva builds up in the back of the throat and the airways causing a "rattling" sound when air passes through.

The sound many sensitive,discerning and thoughtful politically astute people are hearing from America today is very similar to a 'death rattle'.

The historian Gibbon concluded that there were five reasons for the decline and fall of Rome.

(1) The undermining of the dignity and sanctity of the home, which is the basis of human society.

(2) Higher and higher taxes; the spending of public money for free bread and circuses for the populace.

(3) The mad craze for pleasure; sports becoming every year more exciting, more brutal, more immoral.

(4) The building of great armaments when the great enemy was within; the decay of individual responsibility.

(5) The decay of religion, fading into mere form, losing touch with life, losing power to guide the people.



The first step in a nation's decline is religious apostasy, a turning from the living and true God. The second step downward for a nation is moral awfulness. The third step downward is political anarchy.

A great many people in the United States today think that our problem is in Washington, D.C. — I don't think so. Another group of people feel that if people could be reformed, if we could get people to act nicely, not be violent and not steal, if we could just lift our moral standards, then that would solve our problems. Again, I don't think that is the problem. Very frankly, I believe that the problem in this country is religious apostasy. The problem is out yonder with you and right here with me. The problem is that the church has failed to give God's message. I am not talking about every church or your church necessarily. There are many Bible-teaching churches across this country which have wonderful pastors who are standing for God — and I thank God for them. But the great denominations, by and large, have now departed from the faith. They have come to the place where they no longer give an effective message to the nation. As a result, from this religious apostasy have flowed moral awfulness and political anarchy.

If you think that this is just the wild raving of a fundamentalist, you are wrong. Let me quote an excerpt from an editorial in a major metropolitan newspaper a number of years ago. Speaking of the failure of the churches to present any spiritual message whatsoever, the editorial concluded:

This betrayal of Christ in the name of Christianity is one reason for the moral and spiritual malaise with which this country is afflicted. The melancholy fact is that the churches no longer influence the development of national character. People go to church mainly because of an impulse to participate in a service of worship, not because of any spiritual guidance they expect from the clergyman.

What a note of condemnation this is! This is true not just of our nation but of every nation.

The American people are now on a toboggan hurtling down a ice covered slope on the way to eternal judgement that will assign them to the dustbin of history.

Idolatry is where every great nation has gone off the track. When a nation departs from the living and true God or when it gives up great moral principles which were based on religion, when it goes into idolatry, these factors eventually lead it into gross immorality and into political anarchy.

With apologies to Dr. J. Vernon McGee

The death rattle you hear is the old bitter neo confederate teahadists gasping for air and circling the drain

I'm no spring chicken but there is no way I will ever act as old as they do. "I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you darn kids" may be the last lament of the tea party.
 
This betrayal of Christ in the name of Christianity is one reason for the moral and spiritual malaise with which this country is afflicted.


Christ seemed to have no problem with the slaughter of the natives to establish this nation....

The vast majority of deaths by Native Americans was not due to slaughter but disease.
 
This betrayal of Christ in the name of Christianity is one reason for the moral and spiritual malaise with which this country is afflicted.


Christ seemed to have no problem with the slaughter of the natives to establish this nation....

The vast majority of deaths by Native Americans was not due to slaughter but disease.

true, but natives were killed by the hands of christian loving humans.
 
This betrayal of Christ in the name of Christianity is one reason for the moral and spiritual malaise with which this country is afflicted.


Christ seemed to have no problem with the slaughter of the natives to establish this nation....

The vast majority of deaths by Native Americans was not due to slaughter but disease.

Oh, that makes it all right then.
 
The Subtitle to "Rise and Fall" was "Obama's Transformed America"

We were the Number 1 economy and Super power on the planet, what "transformation" did he have in mind?

Those familiar with the History of the Vietnam Conflict remember a famous line from that period....."In order to save the village--it became necessary to destroy it" or sumptin like dat.

I am sure you git mah drift.

aka..............The liberals are willing to destroy America for what they perceive as 'universalism'....aka to save the global village.
 
This betrayal of Christ in the name of Christianity is one reason for the moral and spiritual malaise with which this country is afflicted.


Christ seemed to have no problem with the slaughter of the natives to establish this nation....

The vast majority of deaths by Native Americans was not due to slaughter but disease.

If the politically correct are unwilling to trot out how all of America's problems are due to 'slavery' they will trot out the myth of the Noble Savage....and how fantastic Nature was before the intervention of the Evil White Man.
 
Christ seemed to have no problem with the slaughter of the natives to establish this nation....

The vast majority of deaths by Native Americans was not due to slaughter but disease.

Oh, that makes it all right then.

The American Indians had been slaughtering each other for hundreds of years before the Pilgrims came.

In fact todays so called 'Native Americans' were not the first ones here....they slaughtered and displaced those who were here before them...but excuse me I didn't really want to shatter another liberal myth. jajjajjajaja
 
I also want to know where in the hell is our free circus and gladiatorial fights, not to mention the chariot races with Charlton Heston...?

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The Subtitle to "Rise and Fall" was "Obama's Transformed America"

We were the Number 1 economy and Super power on the planet, what "transformation" did he have in mind?

Those familiar with the History of the Vietnam Conflict remember a famous line from that period....."In order to save the village--it became necessary to destroy it" or sumptin like dat.

I am sure you git mah drift.

aka..............The liberals are willing to destroy America for what they perceive as 'universalism'....aka to save the global village.

conservatives like to divide and repress...
 
The so-called "death rattle" refers to a gurgling sound that individuals often make during the dying process. When people are no longer able to swallow or cough, saliva builds up in the back of the throat and the airways causing a "rattling" sound when air passes through.

The sound many sensitive,discerning and thoughtful politically astute people are hearing from America today is very similar to a 'death rattle'.

The historian Gibbon concluded that there were five reasons for the decline and fall of Rome.

(1) The undermining of the dignity and sanctity of the home, which is the basis of human society.

(2) Higher and higher taxes; the spending of public money for free bread and circuses for the populace.

(3) The mad craze for pleasure; sports becoming every year more exciting, more brutal, more immoral.

(4) The building of great armaments when the great enemy was within; the decay of individual responsibility.

(5) The decay of religion, fading into mere form, losing touch with life, losing power to guide the people.



The first step in a nation's decline is religious apostasy, a turning from the living and true God. The second step downward for a nation is moral awfulness. The third step downward is political anarchy.

A great many people in the United States today think that our problem is in Washington, D.C. — I don't think so. Another group of people feel that if people could be reformed, if we could get people to act nicely, not be violent and not steal, if we could just lift our moral standards, then that would solve our problems. Again, I don't think that is the problem. Very frankly, I believe that the problem in this country is religious apostasy. The problem is out yonder with you and right here with me. The problem is that the church has failed to give God's message. I am not talking about every church or your church necessarily. There are many Bible-teaching churches across this country which have wonderful pastors who are standing for God — and I thank God for them. But the great denominations, by and large, have now departed from the faith. They have come to the place where they no longer give an effective message to the nation. As a result, from this religious apostasy have flowed moral awfulness and political anarchy.

If you think that this is just the wild raving of a fundamentalist, you are wrong. Let me quote an excerpt from an editorial in a major metropolitan newspaper a number of years ago. Speaking of the failure of the churches to present any spiritual message whatsoever, the editorial concluded:

This betrayal of Christ in the name of Christianity is one reason for the moral and spiritual malaise with which this country is afflicted. The melancholy fact is that the churches no longer influence the development of national character. People go to church mainly because of an impulse to participate in a service of worship, not because of any spiritual guidance they expect from the clergyman.

What a note of condemnation this is! This is true not just of our nation but of every nation.

The American people are now on a toboggan hurtling down a ice covered slope on the way to eternal judgement that will assign them to the dustbin of history.

Idolatry is where every great nation has gone off the track. When a nation departs from the living and true God or when it gives up great moral principles which were based on religion, when it goes into idolatry, these factors eventually lead it into gross immorality and into political anarchy.

With apologies to Dr. J. Vernon McGee

The death rattle you hear is the old bitter neo confederate teahadists gasping for air and circling the drain

Actually, you've been saying that since 2008. Such comments as these belie fear and contempt of a far superior and genuine ideology. Might it be that your party is circling the drain?
 
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I also want to know where in the hell is our free circus and gladiatorial fights, not to mention the chariot races with Charlton Heston...?

The free circus is the stupid TV Shows.
Gladiator fights are the wrestling and boxing.
Chariot races are the race cars and monster trucks.
The only thing that's missing is the killing of Christians by lions. That is being taken care of by the Muslim Jihadists :D
 
The vast majority of deaths by Native Americans was not due to slaughter but disease.

Oh, that makes it all right then.

The American Indians had been slaughtering each other for hundreds of years before the Pilgrims came.

In fact todays so called 'Native Americans' were not the first ones here....they slaughtered and displaced those who were here before them...but excuse me I didn't really want to shatter another liberal myth. jajjajjajaja


Oh forgive me, that definitely makes it all good then.
 
OP- So much fear mongering by Pubs and their charlatans, so many chicken little hater dupes....It's just another corrupt Pub World Depression and disloyal, mindless opposition, and Dems fixing their messes....remain calm, and CHANGE THE CHANNEL, chumps of the greedy idiot rich GOP.
 

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