The Cost of Israel

[MikeK]

"Islam was never a religion of tolerance and it is not tolerant by nature. Despite the way the apologists would like to depict it, Islam was spread by the sword and has been maintained by the sword throughout its history, not to mention the scourge and the cross. In truth it was the Arab empire that was spread by the sword and it is as an Arab empire that Islam is maintained to this day in the form of a religion largely invented to hold that empire together and subdue native populations. An unmitigated cultural disaster parading as God's will. Religious minorities were always second-class citizens in this empire and were only tolerated on sufferance and in abject deference to their Arab/Muslim masters; for polytheists and unbelievers there was no tolerance at all, it was conversion or death."
Ibn Al-Rawandi.

Anything else is just excuses, of course.

It may also be said that the United States was born from the barrel of a Kentucky long rifle. But what must be added to the analogous comparison is the critical fact that no Arab nation has imposed itself on the premises of the U.S. But if it did we would have every right to repel the imposition by any means necessary.

I'm most sure interviewing Goebbels would've produced some stupendous garbage too.

Reviewable history is the true judge of what is garbage and what isn't.

And Goebbels was not responsible for engineering the only successful attack on our homeland. So what bin Laden has to say should not be dismissed so casually but should be very carefully weighed and considered.

 

[Marc39]

We know at least one reason behind the symbolic participation of the Western forces and that is to support the Zionist plans for expansion of what is called the Greater Israel.

Are you retarded or just plain stupid?

The towel heads control 99.9% of the Middle East and north Africa.
Israel, just 0.1% of the land.

You like making a total fool of yourself?

 

[Marc39]

How many of these terrorist attacks were not provoked by our aggressive presence in the Middle East, which primarily includes our protective posture toward Israel?

Did al Qaeda attack London because of Israel? Noooo

Did al Qaeda attack Spain because of Israel? Noooo

Did al Qaeda attack Beslan because of Israel? Nooo

Did al Qaeda attempt to attack Australia because of Israel? Nooo

Did al Qaeda threaten Germany, the UK and France with attacks because of Israel? Noooo

See a certain pattern, moron?

 

[Marc39]

Do you believe we would have been subjected to any of these attacks were we not defending Israel and promoting the oil industry's interests in the Middle East?

You're way too stupid to know that Muslim Brotherhood, the progenitor of al Qaeda, was established in 1928. That would be 20 years before Israel existed.

D'oh.

bin Laden has already stated the reason for 9/11, shit-for-brains...

Osama bin Laden...

Those who want people to worship the lord of the people, without following that doctrine, will be following the doctrine of Muhammad, peace be upon him.

I was ordered to fight the people until they say there is no god but Allah, and his prophet Muhammad.

washingtonpost.com

Now, even you know, moron.

 

[docmauser1]

"Islam was never a religion of tolerance and it is not tolerant by nature. Despite the way the apologists would like to depict it, Islam was spread by the sword and has been maintained by the sword throughout its history, not to mention the scourge and the cross. In truth it was the Arab empire that was spread by the sword and it is as an Arab empire that Islam is maintained to this day in the form of a religion largely invented to hold that empire together and subdue native populations. An unmitigated cultural disaster parading as God's will. Religious minorities were always second-class citizens in this empire and were only tolerated on sufferance and in abject deference to their Arab/Muslim masters; for polytheists and unbelievers there was no tolerance at all, it was conversion or death."
Ibn Al-Rawandi. Anything else is just excuses, of course.

It may also be said that the United States was born from the barrel of a Kentucky long rifle.

Very much thoughtful, postmodernistically speaking. Relativism and all that. Arabs love it.

But what must be added to the analogous comparison is the critical fact that no Arab nation has imposed itself on the premises of the U.S. But if it did we would have every right to repel the imposition by any means necessary.

http://www.newbreen.com/Documents/cartoon.obama.tower.sf.jpg

I'm most sure interviewing Goebbels would've produced some stupendous garbage too.

Reviewable history is the true judge of what is garbage and what isn't.

Of course, it's garbage.

And Goebbels was not responsible for engineering the only successful attack on our homeland.

But that arab goebbels, sure was, of course.

So what bin Laden has to say should not be dismissed so casually but should be very carefully weighed and considered.

For post-modernist dumbass individuals, Dearborn types and islamic studies, maybe. For security services and mental professionals, sure.

 

[Marc39]

We know at least one reason behind the symbolic participation of the Western forces and that is to support the Zionist plans for expansion of what is called the Greater Israel.

Utter nonsense. Turkey has has an alliance with Israel since 1949, including a military partnership that entailed joint military exercises.

Turkey has never been attacked by al Qaeda for being an Israeli ally.

Nor, Jordan.

Nor, Egypt.

Nor, the UAE.

al Qaeda is motivated by Islamic theology to kill the infidel, not by politics.

Now, you're a little less clueless, fool

 

[Marc39]

Quote: Originally Posted by MikeK
We know at least one reason behind the symbolic participation of the Western forces and that is to support the Zionist plans for expansion of what is called the Greater Israel.

If you had a functioning brain, you'd realize that Israel withdrawing from Gaza, Israel giving up half of the West Bank and forfeiting Sinai, a landmass 3x the size of Israel and with oil resources, sort of undermines your idiotic claims of a Greater Israel.

At the same time, the Arabs and Muslims control the Greater Middle East with 30 countries.

You're so dumb, it's not even funny.

 

[georgephillip]

How many of these terrorist attacks were not provoked by our aggressive presence in the Middle East, which primarily includes our protective posture toward Israel? Do you believe we would have been subjected to any of these attacks were we not defending Israel and promoting the oil industry's interests in the Middle East?

"Islam was never a religion of tolerance and it is not tolerant by nature. Despite the way the apologists would like to depict it, Islam was spread by the sword and has been maintained by the sword throughout its history, not to mention the scourge and the cross. In truth it was the Arab empire that was spread by the sword and it is as an Arab empire that Islam is maintained to this day in the form of a religion largely invented to hold that empire together and subdue native populations. An unmitigated cultural disaster parading as God's will. Religious minorities were always second-class citizens in this empire and were only tolerated on sufferance and in abject deference to their Arab/Muslim masters; for polytheists and unbelievers there was no tolerance at all, it was conversion or death."
Ibn Al-Rawandi.
Anything else is just excuses, of course.

If you doubt the implication of my questions, read what Osama bin Laden had to say about it well in advance of the 9/11 attack:

I'm most sure interviewing Goebbels would've produced some stupendous garbage too.

One out of four Iraqi Muslims who was alive and well in February of 2003 is currently dead, displaced, maimed or in prison.

If Muslims are not among the most tolerant people on this planet, why aren't car bombs going off regularly in London, New York, and Washington DC?

 

[Marc39]

How many of these terrorist attacks were not provoked by our aggressive presence in the Middle East, which primarily includes our protective posture toward Israel? Do you believe we would have been subjected to any of these attacks were we not defending Israel and promoting the oil industry's interests in the Middle East?

"Islam was never a religion of tolerance and it is not tolerant by nature. Despite the way the apologists would like to depict it, Islam was spread by the sword and has been maintained by the sword throughout its history, not to mention the scourge and the cross. In truth it was the Arab empire that was spread by the sword and it is as an Arab empire that Islam is maintained to this day in the form of a religion largely invented to hold that empire together and subdue native populations. An unmitigated cultural disaster parading as God's will. Religious minorities were always second-class citizens in this empire and were only tolerated on sufferance and in abject deference to their Arab/Muslim masters; for polytheists and unbelievers there was no tolerance at all, it was conversion or death."
Ibn Al-Rawandi.
Anything else is just excuses, of course.

If you doubt the implication of my questions, read what Osama bin Laden had to say about it well in advance of the 9/11 attack:

I'm most sure interviewing Goebbels would've produced some stupendous garbage too.

One out of four Iraqi Muslims who was alive and well in February of 2003 is currently dead, displaced, maimed or in prison.

If Muslims are not among the most tolerant people on this planet, why aren't car bombs going off regularly in London, New York, and Washington DC?

Who committed 9/11, shithead? Quakers?

 

[jillian]

If Muslims are not among the most tolerant people on this planet, why aren't car bombs going off regularly in London, New York, and Washington DC?

homeland security? 'tard

and just a hint... muslim societies do not tolerate jews or christians.

 

[blu]

its a sick circle. the US government steals money from citizens through taxes then send it to israel so they can then turn around and buy arms from US manufacturers who then get to the keep the profit. its nothing but legalized money laundering

 

[georgephillip]

If Muslims are not among the most tolerant people on this planet, why aren't car bombs going off regularly in London, New York, and Washington DC?

homeland security? 'tard

and just a hint... muslim societies do not tolerate jews or christians.

"TEHRAN - The Jewish women in the back rows of the synagogue wear long garments in the traditional Iranian style, but instead of chadors, their heads are covered with cheerful, flowered scarves.

The boys in their skullcaps, with Hebrew prayer books tucked under their arms, scamper down the aisles to grab the best spots near the lush, turquoise Persian carpet of the altar. This is Friday night, Shabbat - Iranian style, and the synagogue in an affluent neighborhood of North Tehran is filled to capacity with more than 400 worshipers.

"It is one of the many paradoxes of the Islamic Republic of Iran that this most virulent anti-Israeli country supports by far the largest Jewish population of any Muslim country.

While Jewish communities in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Morocco and Algeria have all but vanished, Iran is home to 25,000 - some here say 35,000 - Jews. The Jewish population is less than half the number that lived here before the Islamic revolution of 1979. But the Jews have tried to compensate for their diminishing numbers by adopting a new religious fervor.

'''The funny thing is that before the Islamic revolution, you would see maybe 20 old men in the synagogue,'' whispers Nahit Eliyason, 48, as she climbs over four other women to find one of the few vacant seats. ''Now the place is full. You can barely find a seat.'' Parvis Yashaya, a film producer who heads Tehran's Jewish community, adds: '''We are smaller, but we are stronger in some ways.'''

Iran:

 

[Marc39]

its a sick circle. the US government steals money from citizens through taxes then send it to israel so they can then turn around and buy arms from US manufacturers who then get to the keep the profit. its nothing but legalized money laundering

Shit-for-brains, Israel is one of the US's largest export markets, buying between $15 billion and $20 billion in American goods each year.

Office of the United States Trade Representative...

U.S. goods exports in 2008 were $14.5 billion, up 11.3 percent from the previous year. Corresponding U.S. imports from Israel were $22.3 billion, up 7.4 percent. Israel is currently the 20th largest export market for U.S. goods.

Israel | Office of the United States Trade Representative

You just play with yourself all day, loser.

 

[Marc39]

If Muslims are not among the most tolerant people on this planet, why aren't car bombs going off regularly in London, New York, and Washington DC?

homeland security? 'tard

and just a hint... muslim societies do not tolerate jews or christians.

"TEHRAN - The Jewish women in the back rows of the synagogue wear long garments in the traditional Iranian style, but instead of chadors, their heads are covered with cheerful, flowered scarves.

The boys in their skullcaps, with Hebrew prayer books tucked under their arms, scamper down the aisles to grab the best spots near the lush, turquoise Persian carpet of the altar. This is Friday night, Shabbat - Iranian style, and the synagogue in an affluent neighborhood of North Tehran is filled to capacity with more than 400 worshipers.

"It is one of the many paradoxes of the Islamic Republic of Iran that this most virulent anti-Israeli country supports by far the largest Jewish population of any Muslim country.

While Jewish communities in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Morocco and Algeria have all but vanished, Iran is home to 25,000 - some here say 35,000 - Jews. The Jewish population is less than half the number that lived here before the Islamic revolution of 1979. But the Jews have tried to compensate for their diminishing numbers by adopting a new religious fervor.

'''The funny thing is that before the Islamic revolution, you would see maybe 20 old men in the synagogue,'' whispers Nahit Eliyason, 48, as she climbs over four other women to find one of the few vacant seats. ''Now the place is full. You can barely find a seat.'' Parvis Yashaya, a film producer who heads Tehran's Jewish community, adds: '''We are smaller, but we are stronger in some ways.'''

Iran:

Stupid Georgie, Iran's Jewish population is about 11,000 out of a total population of
72,000,000.

You're so fucking stupid, it's not even funny.

You're my bitch

 

[blu]

its a sick circle. the US government steals money from citizens through taxes then send it to israel so they can then turn around and buy arms from US manufacturers who then get to the keep the profit. its nothing but legalized money laundering

Shit-for-brains, Israel is one of the US's largest export markets, buying between $15 billion and $20 billion in American goods each year.

Office of the United States Trade Representative...

U.S. goods exports in 2008 were $14.5 billion, up 11.3 percent from the previous year. Corresponding U.S. imports from Israel were $22.3 billion, up 7.4 percent. Israel is currently the 20th largest export market for U.S. goods.

Israel | Office of the United States Trade Representative

You just play with yourself all day, loser.

hey dumbass, irsael "buys" almost all of these goods through US taxpayer funded military aid. its nothing but a hand out to military contractors and in all other settings it is felony money laundering

 

[georgephillip]

homeland security? 'tard

and just a hint... muslim societies do not tolerate jews or christians.

"TEHRAN - The Jewish women in the back rows of the synagogue wear long garments in the traditional Iranian style, but instead of chadors, their heads are covered with cheerful, flowered scarves.

The boys in their skullcaps, with Hebrew prayer books tucked under their arms, scamper down the aisles to grab the best spots near the lush, turquoise Persian carpet of the altar. This is Friday night, Shabbat - Iranian style, and the synagogue in an affluent neighborhood of North Tehran is filled to capacity with more than 400 worshipers.

"It is one of the many paradoxes of the Islamic Republic of Iran that this most virulent anti-Israeli country supports by far the largest Jewish population of any Muslim country.

While Jewish communities in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Morocco and Algeria have all but vanished, Iran is home to 25,000 - some here say 35,000 - Jews. The Jewish population is less than half the number that lived here before the Islamic revolution of 1979. But the Jews have tried to compensate for their diminishing numbers by adopting a new religious fervor.

'''The funny thing is that before the Islamic revolution, you would see maybe 20 old men in the synagogue,'' whispers Nahit Eliyason, 48, as she climbs over four other women to find one of the few vacant seats. ''Now the place is full. You can barely find a seat.'' Parvis Yashaya, a film producer who heads Tehran's Jewish community, adds: '''We are smaller, but we are stronger in some ways.'''

Iran:

Stupid Georgie, Iran's Jewish population is about 11,000 out of a total population of
72,000,000.

You're so fucking stupid, it's not even funny.

You're my bitch

Got a link?

 

[Marc39]

"TEHRAN - The Jewish women in the back rows of the synagogue wear long garments in the traditional Iranian style, but instead of chadors, their heads are covered with cheerful, flowered scarves.

The boys in their skullcaps, with Hebrew prayer books tucked under their arms, scamper down the aisles to grab the best spots near the lush, turquoise Persian carpet of the altar. This is Friday night, Shabbat - Iranian style, and the synagogue in an affluent neighborhood of North Tehran is filled to capacity with more than 400 worshipers.

"It is one of the many paradoxes of the Islamic Republic of Iran that this most virulent anti-Israeli country supports by far the largest Jewish population of any Muslim country.

While Jewish communities in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Morocco and Algeria have all but vanished, Iran is home to 25,000 - some here say 35,000 - Jews. The Jewish population is less than half the number that lived here before the Islamic revolution of 1979. But the Jews have tried to compensate for their diminishing numbers by adopting a new religious fervor.

'''The funny thing is that before the Islamic revolution, you would see maybe 20 old men in the synagogue,'' whispers Nahit Eliyason, 48, as she climbs over four other women to find one of the few vacant seats. ''Now the place is full. You can barely find a seat.'' Parvis Yashaya, a film producer who heads Tehran's Jewish community, adds: '''We are smaller, but we are stronger in some ways.'''

Iran:

Stupid Georgie, Iran's Jewish population is about 11,000 out of a total population of
72,000,000.

You're so fucking stupid, it's not even funny.

You're my bitch

Got a link?

I am your link, bitch. I live in the Middle East.

 

[georgephillip]

its a sick circle. the US government steals money from citizens through taxes then send it to israel so they can then turn around and buy arms from US manufacturers who then get to the keep the profit. its nothing but legalized money laundering

Shit-for-brains, Israel is one of the US's largest export markets, buying between $15 billion and $20 billion in American goods each year.

Office of the United States Trade Representative...

U.S. goods exports in 2008 were $14.5 billion, up 11.3 percent from the previous year. Corresponding U.S. imports from Israel were $22.3 billion, up 7.4 percent. Israel is currently the 20th largest export market for U.S. goods.

Israel | Office of the United States Trade Representative

You just play with yourself all day, loser.

hey dumbass, irsael "buys" almost all of these goods through US taxpayer funded military aid. its nothing but a hand out to military contractors and in all other settings it is felony money laundering

7 million dollars a day in US taxpayer donated military aid to Israel times 365 days in a year equals $255.5 billion dollars going to Israel annually.

Grateful Jews then "purchase" $20 billion worth of US goods.

'Think it might be time to tell the Jewish State of Israel to sink of swim?

Or maybe vanish from the page of time?

 

[georgephillip]

Stupid Georgie, Iran's Jewish population is about 11,000 out of a total population of
72,000,000.

You're so fucking stupid, it's not even funny.

You're my bitch

Got a link?

I am your link, bitch. I live in the Middle East.

In your delusional imagination you live in the Middle East.

In fact you live with your mommy in a basement homeless shelter named "Princeton."

Still waiting for your links.

Punk.

 

[Marc39]

Shit-for-brains, Israel is one of the US's largest export markets, buying between $15 billion and $20 billion in American goods each year.

Office of the United States Trade Representative...

Israel | Office of the United States Trade Representative

You just play with yourself all day, loser.

hey dumbass, irsael "buys" almost all of these goods through US taxpayer funded military aid. its nothing but a hand out to military contractors and in all other settings it is felony money laundering

7 million dollars a day in US taxpayer donated military aid to Israel times 365 days in a year equals $255.5 billion dollars going to Israel annually.

Grateful Jews then "purchase" $20 billion worth of US goods.

'Think it might be time to tell the Jewish State of Israel to sink of swim?

Or maybe vanish from the page of time?

Georgie, you're so dumb, it's not even funny.

By law, 75% of US foreign aid to Israel must be invested with US defense contractors which employ millions of Americans and forms the foundation of the US economy.
List of United States defense contractors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The $20 billion in US aid to America-hating jihadist-loving Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Jordan and Egypt goes down one big rat hole.

You're my bitch, Georgie.