The breakup of the United Kingdom???

[martybegan]

With yesterday's historic vote for England to leave the EU, many repercussions will inevitably follow and not many of them in the "positive" column.

Currently the UK comprises 4 countries, and there are strong tendencies from countries such as Scotland and Northern Ireland to ALSO leave the tenuous compact to remain within the UK; this, coupled with the industrial sectors within England wanting to remain within the EU, will spell very hard economic times for the UK's future.

There is little doubt that the ripple effect of our wars in the middle east regions has taken its toll on the issue of immigration from those war-torn countries to Europe.....Britain has chosen to close its borders to such immigration, and yesterday's vote to separate itself from the EU will prove to be an economic and social downturn for that country.

We are indeed living in interesting times.

Far leftism is getting rejected all over the world, you far left drones need to accept it..

Leftism? You fool, Scotland will most likely be voting to leave the UK for the EU, and N. Ireland has a good chance of being assimilated by Sein Fein. Leftism won this one fair and square. Whether or not that's good thing remains to be seen.

The EU is the Leftist model. Faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats ruling against the Will of the People.

This was a huge defeat for leftism.

The EU moves power further and further away from the people, and delegates it to un-reachable and unaccountable bureaucracies.

Its basically a progressive Statist's wet dream.

 

[martybegan]

You should know that most of England's Muslims have immigrated there from former British colonies and NOT from Syria and Iraq

You should know that 1.5 million are in england illegally.

Out of 53 million people.

Something like 71% of voters voted. Pretty amazing.

I'm hearing they were pretty evenly divided.

Yeah. Pretty deeply. With Scotland voting 68% to stay in the EU (Donald apparently didn't get that news), it looks pretty grim for the UK staying united.

Well then the EU gets to subsidize Scotland's Blue Model instead of England and Wales.

 

[bendog]

With yesterday's historic vote for England to leave the EU, many repercussions will inevitably follow and not many of them in the "positive" column.

Currently the UK comprises 4 countries, and there are strong tendencies from countries such as Scotland and Northern Ireland to ALSO leave the tenuous compact to remain within the UK; this, coupled with the industrial sectors within England wanting to remain within the EU, will spell very hard economic times for the UK's future.

There is little doubt that the ripple effect of our wars in the middle east regions has taken its toll on the issue of immigration from those war-torn countries to Europe.....Britain has chosen to close its borders to such immigration, and yesterday's vote to separate itself from the EU will prove to be an economic and social downturn for that country.

We are indeed living in interesting times.

Far leftism is getting rejected all over the world, you far left drones need to accept it..

Leftism? You fool, Scotland will most likely be voting to leave the UK for the EU, and N. Ireland has a good chance of being assimilated by Sein Fein. Leftism won this one fair and square. Whether or not that's good thing remains to be seen.

The EU is the Leftist model. Faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats ruling against the Will of the People.

This was a huge defeat for leftism.

Whatever, but the Scots and Irish independent movements are hardly the left. Typically, you must attempt to force your own ideological agenda onto anything, no matter how much they differ.

 

[bendog]

With yesterday's historic vote for England to leave the EU, many repercussions will inevitably follow and not many of them in the "positive" column.

Currently the UK comprises 4 countries, and there are strong tendencies from countries such as Scotland and Northern Ireland to ALSO leave the tenuous compact to remain within the UK; this, coupled with the industrial sectors within England wanting to remain within the EU, will spell very hard economic times for the UK's future.

There is little doubt that the ripple effect of our wars in the middle east regions has taken its toll on the issue of immigration from those war-torn countries to Europe.....Britain has chosen to close its borders to such immigration, and yesterday's vote to separate itself from the EU will prove to be an economic and social downturn for that country.

We are indeed living in interesting times.

Far leftism is getting rejected all over the world, you far left drones need to accept it..

Leftism? You fool, Scotland will most likely be voting to leave the UK for the EU, and N. Ireland has a good chance of being assimilated by Sein Fein. Leftism won this one fair and square. Whether or not that's good thing remains to be seen.

The EU is the Leftist model. Faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats ruling against the Will of the People.

This was a huge defeat for leftism.

The EU moves power further and further away from the people, and delegates it to un-reachable and unaccountable bureaucracies.

Its basically a progressive Statist's wet dream.

No doubt the EU is basically a tool of multinational corporatism. Calling it left or right is intellectual laziness.

 

[martybegan]

With yesterday's historic vote for England to leave the EU, many repercussions will inevitably follow and not many of them in the "positive" column.

Currently the UK comprises 4 countries, and there are strong tendencies from countries such as Scotland and Northern Ireland to ALSO leave the tenuous compact to remain within the UK; this, coupled with the industrial sectors within England wanting to remain within the EU, will spell very hard economic times for the UK's future.

There is little doubt that the ripple effect of our wars in the middle east regions has taken its toll on the issue of immigration from those war-torn countries to Europe.....Britain has chosen to close its borders to such immigration, and yesterday's vote to separate itself from the EU will prove to be an economic and social downturn for that country.

We are indeed living in interesting times.

Far leftism is getting rejected all over the world, you far left drones need to accept it..

Leftism? You fool, Scotland will most likely be voting to leave the UK for the EU, and N. Ireland has a good chance of being assimilated by Sein Fein. Leftism won this one fair and square. Whether or not that's good thing remains to be seen.

The EU is the Leftist model. Faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats ruling against the Will of the People.

This was a huge defeat for leftism.

The EU moves power further and further away from the people, and delegates it to un-reachable and unaccountable bureaucracies.

Its basically a progressive Statist's wet dream.

No doubt the EU is basically a tool of multinational corporatism. Calling it left or right is intellectual laziness.

Progressive Statism, to me is the real culprit.

 

[bendog]

Far leftism is getting rejected all over the world, you far left drones need to accept it..

Leftism? You fool, Scotland will most likely be voting to leave the UK for the EU, and N. Ireland has a good chance of being assimilated by Sein Fein. Leftism won this one fair and square. Whether or not that's good thing remains to be seen.

The EU is the Leftist model. Faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats ruling against the Will of the People.

This was a huge defeat for leftism.

The EU moves power further and further away from the people, and delegates it to un-reachable and unaccountable bureaucracies.

Its basically a progressive Statist's wet dream.

No doubt the EU is basically a tool of multinational corporatism. Calling it left or right is intellectual laziness.

Progressive Statism, to me is the real culprit.

Whatever that term means to you.

 

[Correll]

With yesterday's historic vote for England to leave the EU, many repercussions will inevitably follow and not many of them in the "positive" column.

Currently the UK comprises 4 countries, and there are strong tendencies from countries such as Scotland and Northern Ireland to ALSO leave the tenuous compact to remain within the UK; this, coupled with the industrial sectors within England wanting to remain within the EU, will spell very hard economic times for the UK's future.

There is little doubt that the ripple effect of our wars in the middle east regions has taken its toll on the issue of immigration from those war-torn countries to Europe.....Britain has chosen to close its borders to such immigration, and yesterday's vote to separate itself from the EU will prove to be an economic and social downturn for that country.

We are indeed living in interesting times.

Far leftism is getting rejected all over the world, you far left drones need to accept it..

Leftism? You fool, Scotland will most likely be voting to leave the UK for the EU, and N. Ireland has a good chance of being assimilated by Sein Fein. Leftism won this one fair and square. Whether or not that's good thing remains to be seen.

The EU is the Leftist model. Faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats ruling against the Will of the People.

This was a huge defeat for leftism.

Whatever, but the Scots and Irish independent movements are hardly the left. Typically, you must attempt to force your own ideological agenda onto anything, no matter how much they differ.

I made no comment on the Scott and Irish independent movement.

My comment was about the EU, and how it is THE LEFTY MODEL.

And the UK leaving will be a huge defeat for the Left.

 

[bendog]

With yesterday's historic vote for England to leave the EU, many repercussions will inevitably follow and not many of them in the "positive" column.

Currently the UK comprises 4 countries, and there are strong tendencies from countries such as Scotland and Northern Ireland to ALSO leave the tenuous compact to remain within the UK; this, coupled with the industrial sectors within England wanting to remain within the EU, will spell very hard economic times for the UK's future.

There is little doubt that the ripple effect of our wars in the middle east regions has taken its toll on the issue of immigration from those war-torn countries to Europe.....Britain has chosen to close its borders to such immigration, and yesterday's vote to separate itself from the EU will prove to be an economic and social downturn for that country.

We are indeed living in interesting times.

Far leftism is getting rejected all over the world, you far left drones need to accept it..

Leftism? You fool, Scotland will most likely be voting to leave the UK for the EU, and N. Ireland has a good chance of being assimilated by Sein Fein. Leftism won this one fair and square. Whether or not that's good thing remains to be seen.

The EU is the Leftist model. Faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats ruling against the Will of the People.

This was a huge defeat for leftism.

Whatever, but the Scots and Irish independent movements are hardly the left. Typically, you must attempt to force your own ideological agenda onto anything, no matter how much they differ.

I made no comment on the Scott and Irish independent movement.

My comment was about the EU, and how it is THE LEFTY MODEL.

And the UK leaving will be a huge defeat for the Left.

I know. Your view of the universe is devoid of implications beyond the end of your nose.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The rightwinger in the US praise this because they'd like to see it happen to the US. They hate America as a nation.

No, we hate what you assholes are trying to do to the nation, and some of the people in it.

Big difference.

lol, nice meltdown.

 

[CowboyTed]

With yesterday's historic vote for England to leave the EU, many repercussions will inevitably follow and not many of them in the "positive" column.

Currently the UK comprises 4 countries, and there are strong tendencies from countries such as Scotland and Northern Ireland to ALSO leave the tenuous compact to remain within the UK; this, coupled with the industrial sectors within England wanting to remain within the EU, will spell very hard economic times for the UK's future.

There is little doubt that the ripple effect of our wars in the middle east regions has taken its toll on the issue of immigration from those war-torn countries to Europe.....Britain has chosen to close its borders to such immigration, and yesterday's vote to separate itself from the EU will prove to be an economic and social downturn for that country.

We are indeed living in interesting times.

Scotland is already talking about another vote for Indeoendance.

And then the EU can have another country that is a net negative on the overall economy.
Do you think Ireland want that shower up north... Both sides have no respect for the law, 70% of there economy is bankrolled by the UK government... Thanks but no thanks...

I say Scotland will leave...

But the sting in the tail has still to come... UK needs a free trade agreement with EU... Their economy will tank without it... To get this type of agreement it has to be ratified by every EU country... So guess what, they are going to load up hoops..
I say the absolute minimum will be:

• £6.5 Billion a year
• Free movement of Labour
• EU standards will be adhered to and UK will be severely fined if non standard good are exported to EU
• One off payment for shoring up the banks
• Basically everything they are agreeing to now..

The the real games begin, lets say Greece objects unless they get £15 billion.. Greece has very little trade with UK so they don't care... So they will like a bit of pork..
Also Frankfurt might also like an advantage in the financial sector... So they could throw in a bit of pain there...

What has effectively happened is UK has lost there right to change the EU but will have to live by there rules.

Below is a list showcasing 15 of United Kingdom’s top import partners, countries that imported the most UK shipments by dollar value during 2015. Also shown is each import country’s percentage of total UK exports.

1. United States: US$66.5 billion (14.5% of total UK exports)
2. Germany: $46.4 billion (10.1%)
3. Switzerland: $32.2 billion (7%)
4. China: $27.4 billion (5.9%)
5. France: $27 billion (5.9%)
6. Netherlands: $26.6 billion (5.8%)
7. Ireland: $25.5 billion (5.5%)
8. Belgium: $17.8 billion (3.9%)
9. Spain: $13.1 billion (2.8%)
10. Italy: $12.9 billion (2.8%)
11. United Arab Emirates: $10.3 billion (2.2%)
12. Hong Kong: $9.6 billion (2.1%)
13. South Korea: $7 billion (1.5%)
14. Saudi Arabia: $6.7 billion (1.5%)
15. Sweden: $6.6 billion (1.4%)

Then there also the jobs thing... To trade in EU(without tariffs) you have to hire a certain amount of your company within EU borders. When UK leaves these employees don't count, so the gradual movement of jobs to the EU will begin.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The rightwinger in the US praise this because they'd like to see it happen to the US. They hate America as a nation.

Says the lib who just called half the nation traitors.

You people don't want a sovereign nation. You want 50 sovereign states. You want to Balkanize America.

 

[Correll]

Far leftism is getting rejected all over the world, you far left drones need to accept it..

Leftism? You fool, Scotland will most likely be voting to leave the UK for the EU, and N. Ireland has a good chance of being assimilated by Sein Fein. Leftism won this one fair and square. Whether or not that's good thing remains to be seen.

The EU is the Leftist model. Faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats ruling against the Will of the People.

This was a huge defeat for leftism.

Whatever, but the Scots and Irish independent movements are hardly the left. Typically, you must attempt to force your own ideological agenda onto anything, no matter how much they differ.

I made no comment on the Scott and Irish independent movement.

My comment was about the EU, and how it is THE LEFTY MODEL.

And the UK leaving will be a huge defeat for the Left.

I know. Your view of the universe is devoid of implications beyond the end of your nose.

Blah, blah, blah.

My point about the EU stands.

 

[CowboyTed]

With yesterday's historic vote for England to leave the EU, many repercussions will inevitably follow and not many of them in the "positive" column.

Currently the UK comprises 4 countries, and there are strong tendencies from countries such as Scotland and Northern Ireland to ALSO leave the tenuous compact to remain within the UK; this, coupled with the industrial sectors within England wanting to remain within the EU, will spell very hard economic times for the UK's future.

There is little doubt that the ripple effect of our wars in the middle east regions has taken its toll on the issue of immigration from those war-torn countries to Europe.....Britain has chosen to close its borders to such immigration, and yesterday's vote to separate itself from the EU will prove to be an economic and social downturn for that country.

We are indeed living in interesting times.

Scotland is put to bed for a while as the referendum to leave was voted down. And protestant Northern Ireland reconnecting with Catholic Ireland? Dream on

Scotland has a clause that states a new referendum on UK leaving EU.

Agree with you about Ireland, there is no chance of that happening.. The Republic of IReland couldn't afford Northern Ireland even if there wasn't a sh*tstorm fromt he unionists... Northern Ireland is UK's problem...

 

[Correll]

The rightwinger in the US praise this because they'd like to see it happen to the US. They hate America as a nation.

Says the lib who just called half the nation traitors.

You people don't want a sovereign nation. You want 50 sovereign states. You want to Balkanize America.

I don't know if you can hear me over the voices in your head.

 

[JimBowie1958]

With yesterday's historic vote for England to leave the EU, many repercussions will inevitably follow and not many of them in the "positive" column.

Currently the UK comprises 4 countries, and there are strong tendencies from countries such as Scotland and Northern Ireland to ALSO leave the tenuous compact to remain within the UK; this, coupled with the industrial sectors within England wanting to remain within the EU, will spell very hard economic times for the UK's future.

There is little doubt that the ripple effect of our wars in the middle east regions has taken its toll on the issue of immigration from those war-torn countries to Europe.....Britain has chosen to close its borders to such immigration, and yesterday's vote to separate itself from the EU will prove to be an economic and social downturn for that country.

We are indeed living in interesting times.

Cutting Scotland lose will benefit Britain, by losing a huge drag on its economy and ejecting a huge majority of traditional Labor support.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Agree with you about Ireland, there is no chance of that happening.. The Republic of IReland couldn't afford Northern Ireland even if there wasn't a sh*tstorm fromt he unionists... Northern Ireland is UK's problem...

Give them a vote anyway and enforce it.

 

[BluesLegend]

Maybe the UK and USA will team up to conquer other countries and divide the spoils, a new era of empire building.

 

[martybegan]

The rightwinger in the US praise this because they'd like to see it happen to the US. They hate America as a nation.

No, we hate what you assholes are trying to do to the nation, and some of the people in it.

Big difference.

lol, nice meltdown.

A 2 sentence reply is not a "meltdown".

This coming from someone who posted the typical "RW's hate amurica, fuh fuh fuh" tripe is comical.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I haven't accepted that regressivism has been rejected. It never goes away. Regressives are like mooselimbs. They don't just give ground and stay away. They'll be working on getting the EU back in and punish them.

EU chief vows bloc will stay united after Britain exit vote | Fox News

The head of the biggest bloc in the parliament fired an early warning shot at Cameron that Britain should expect no free ride as it negotiates its departure.

"There cannot be any special treatment for the United Kingdom. The British people have expressed their wish to leave the EU. Leave means leave. The times of cherry-picking are over," European Peoples Party leader Manfred Weber said.

He insisted that the exit negotiations "should be concluded within two years."

This insistence on a "hard exit" is aimed at discouraging other countries from wanting to leave the bloc in the belief that they might be able to negotiate a comfortable partnership from the outside.

 

[CowboyTed]

You should know that most of England's Muslims have immigrated there from former British colonies and NOT from Syria and Iraq

You should know that 1.5 million are in england illegally.

Out of 53 million people.

Something like 71% of voters voted. Pretty amazing.

I'm hearing they were pretty evenly divided.

Yeah, overall. But the vote shows a pretty deeply division regionally. With Scotland voting 68% to stay in the EU (Donald apparently didn't get that news), it looks pretty grim for the UK staying united because while the vote was close overall, it wasn't so much by region. Scotland and N. Ireland voted to stay in the EU more definitely than the more close overall vote. That is, England and Wales voted much differently than did Scotland and N. Ireland.

If Scotland leaves the UK for the EU, that has defense implications for the US because the UK's nuclear deterrent is in Scotland, and the Scots want it out.

If Sein Fein can not force a vote to remove the border around N. Ireland so the whole of Ireland remains in the EU .... that seems very scary in light of the violence the N. Ireland protestants engaged in against the N. Ireland catholics.

Soctland will leave...

I can guarantee you that Northern Ireland be an independent country before it joins Ireland... You must remember Republic of IReland is pretty pragmatic, Northern Ireland's economy is 70% in government services.. It is a propped up econmy