The big question about life on other planets: 1000000000000000000000 planets in the universe

[Fort Fun Indiana]

DNA is being written and rewritten now by geneticist. Not taking millions of years either.

Now you explain how a sterile pond wrote DNA?

Darwin was too stupid to even know what DNA was

Yet you believe his babbles

RNA can self replicate. Amino acids were all over the place and one was even found in a comet. Just wait for a few hundred years and have faith that science will find out.

Nothing that does not exist can self replicate. So RNA can not self replicate until RNA exist, the only thing that comes from nothing is nothing

Do try again

A stupid argument, prima facie, as nobody but you is suggesting the only two steps were nothing,then RNA. You are embarrassing yourself.

 

[Frannie]

DNA is being written and rewritten now by geneticist. Not taking millions of years either.

How jealous Yahweh must be....

Nah, he was an astronaut, came here to rest and left an ecosystem in 6 days

 

[Frannie]

DNA is being written and rewritten now by geneticist. Not taking millions of years either.

Now you explain how a sterile pond wrote DNA?

Darwin was too stupid to even know what DNA was

Yet you believe his babbles

RNA can self replicate. Amino acids were all over the place and one was even found in a comet. Just wait for a few hundred years and have faith that science will find out.

Nothing that does not exist can self replicate. So RNA can not self replicate until RNA exist, the only thing that comes from nothing is nothing

Do try again

A stupid argument, prima facie, as nobody but you is suggesting the only two steps were nothing,then RNA. You are embarrassing yourself.

Show me RNA replicating when there is no RNA as the sterile pond had

Really kid your science God is dead a long tome ago, now even physicist agree that the universe is a computer program, requiring a programmer, IE God

 

[Wuwei]

Nothing that does not exist can self replicate. So RNA can not self replicate until RNA exist, the only thing that comes from nothing is nothing

Do try again

Put some sterile crud in a bucket, warm it up and zap it occasionally, and you won't see abiogenesis. Try trillions of buckets and wait millions of years and the right combo is bound to happen. So I think.

 

[Wuwei]

Show me RNA replicating when there is no RNA as the sterile pond had

Really kid your science God is dead a long tome ago, now even physicist agree that the universe is a computer program, requiring a programmer, IE God

...."even physicist".... Not correct grammar.
Do you mean "even all physicists"or "even a physicist" or "even a few physicist"?

.

 

[Frannie]

Show me RNA replicating when there is no RNA as the sterile pond had

Really kid your science God is dead a long tome ago, now even physicist agree that the universe is a computer program, requiring a programmer, IE God

...."even physicist".... Not correct grammar.
Do you mean "even all physicists"or "even a physicist" or "even a few physicist"?

.

Does not matter how you spegle it, the only thing that comes from nothing is nothing

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Does not matter how you spegle it, the only thing that comes from nothing is nothing

Shaman Frannie has spoken!

 

[Wuwei]

the only thing that comes from nothing is nothing

It seems that the only thing that comes from you is a rectalcranial inversion.

 

[Frannie]

the only thing that comes from nothing is nothing

It seems that the only thing that comes from you is a rectalcranial inversion.

And you are a bottomless pit of nothing...…………………..

But be sure to detail how something can come from nothing

 

[Wuwei]

But be sure to detail how something can come from nothing

Something from Nothing? A Vacuum Can Yield Flashes of Light

A vacuum might seem like empty space, but scientists have discovered a new way to seemingly get something from that nothingness....​

A Mathematical Proof That The Universe Could Have Formed Spontaneously From Nothing

For many years, cosmologists have relied on the idea that the universe formed spontaneously, that the Big Bang was the result of quantum fluctuations in which the Universe came into existence from nothing....
... These guys have come up with the first rigorous proof that the Big Bang could indeed have occurred spontaneously because of quantum fluctuations.​

 

[progressive hunter]

But be sure to detail how something can come from nothing

Something from Nothing? A Vacuum Can Yield Flashes of Light

A vacuum might seem like empty space, but scientists have discovered a new way to seemingly get something from that nothingness....​

A Mathematical Proof That The Universe Could Have Formed Spontaneously From Nothing

For many years, cosmologists have relied on the idea that the universe formed spontaneously, that the Big Bang was the result of quantum fluctuations in which the Universe came into existence from nothing....
... These guys have come up with the first rigorous proof that the Big Bang could indeed have occurred spontaneously because of quantum fluctuations.​

more assumptions lacking in facts or reality,,

 

[bripat9643]

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens

Jupiter is a gas giant and technically has no surface on which it's citizens and live.

A terrestrial planet the size of Jupiter would have a surface gravity many hundreds of time that of Earth, making it highly unlikely to evolve any citizens.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity, any citizens that do evolve will come and go in the wink of a geological eye.

Maybe. That's based on our own solar system though and the laws that exist here. We don't know if these same laws exist everywhere in the universe.

Of course, we also don't know what full grown "human like" species might look like or how they would function under extremely different conditions.

A basic principle of science is that the same laws exist everywhere. It would be nonsensical if they didn't.

 

[Wuwei]

But be sure to detail how something can come from nothing

Something from Nothing? A Vacuum Can Yield Flashes of Light

A vacuum might seem like empty space, but scientists have discovered a new way to seemingly get something from that nothingness....​

A Mathematical Proof That The Universe Could Have Formed Spontaneously From Nothing

For many years, cosmologists have relied on the idea that the universe formed spontaneously, that the Big Bang was the result of quantum fluctuations in which the Universe came into existence from nothing....
... These guys have come up with the first rigorous proof that the Big Bang could indeed have occurred spontaneously because of quantum fluctuations.​

more assumptions lacking in facts or reality,,

you asked "How something can come from nothing"
I told you how, I didn't say it was actual fact.

.

 

[Frannie]

But be sure to detail how something can come from nothing

Something from Nothing? A Vacuum Can Yield Flashes of Light

A vacuum might seem like empty space, but scientists have discovered a new way to seemingly get something from that nothingness....​

A Mathematical Proof That The Universe Could Have Formed Spontaneously From Nothing

For many years, cosmologists have relied on the idea that the universe formed spontaneously, that the Big Bang was the result of quantum fluctuations in which the Universe came into existence from nothing....
... These guys have come up with the first rigorous proof that the Big Bang could indeed have occurred spontaneously because of quantum fluctuations.​

Dude something from nothing requires an entirely new set of physical rules and conservation of mass as a result vanishes

Copy and paste changes nothing

 

[Frannie]

But be sure to detail how something can come from nothing

Something from Nothing? A Vacuum Can Yield Flashes of Light

A vacuum might seem like empty space, but scientists have discovered a new way to seemingly get something from that nothingness....​

A Mathematical Proof That The Universe Could Have Formed Spontaneously From Nothing

For many years, cosmologists have relied on the idea that the universe formed spontaneously, that the Big Bang was the result of quantum fluctuations in which the Universe came into existence from nothing....
... These guys have come up with the first rigorous proof that the Big Bang could indeed have occurred spontaneously because of quantum fluctuations.​

more assumptions lacking in facts or reality,,

you asked "How something can come from nothing"
I told you how, I didn't say it was actual fact.

.

If it's not a fact it is no different that one of your wet dreams

 

[Frannie]

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens

Jupiter is a gas giant and technically has no surface on which it's citizens and live.

A terrestrial planet the size of Jupiter would have a surface gravity many hundreds of time that of Earth, making it highly unlikely to evolve any citizens.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity, any citizens that do evolve will come and go in the wink of a geological eye.

Maybe. That's based on our own solar system though and the laws that exist here. We don't know if these same laws exist everywhere in the universe.

Of course, we also don't know what full grown "human like" species might look like or how they would function under extremely different conditions.

A basic principle of science is that the same laws exist everywhere. It would be nonsensical if they didn't.

Except when geniuses declare that the universe created itself from nothing because nothing got bored one day and decided to turn nothing into the universe

 

[bripat9643]

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens

Jupiter is a gas giant and technically has no surface on which it's citizens and live.

A terrestrial planet the size of Jupiter would have a surface gravity many hundreds of time that of Earth, making it highly unlikely to evolve any citizens.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity, any citizens that do evolve will come and go in the wink of a geological eye.

Maybe. That's based on our own solar system though and the laws that exist here. We don't know if these same laws exist everywhere in the universe.

Of course, we also don't know what full grown "human like" species might look like or how they would function under extremely different conditions.

A basic principle of science is that the same laws exist everywhere. It would be nonsensical if they didn't.

Except when geniuses declare that the universe created itself from nothing because nothing got bored one day and decided to turn nothing into the universe

Who created God?

 

[sealybobo]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

I was watching how the universe works and they did one on all the hellacious planets they see that couldn’t possibly be inhabited with life but look at our solar system. If you were circling another star looking at us you would probably only see Jupiter Saturn Uranus and Neptune and they would look uninhabitable too.

They may not even see tiny earth.

 

[Wuwei]

Dude something from nothing requires an entirely new set of physical rules and conservation of mass as a result vanishes

If it's not a fact it is no different that one of your wet dreams

Not mine. It read about the wet dream of George Gamov many decades ago. He estimated that the negative gravitational potential of the universe is equal to the positive energy of mass. If they were exactly equal, the total energy of the universe would be zero. Virtual particles does the rest.

That requires no new laws of physics. A zero energy universe from nothing. The source I cited gives the authors of a theory on how it can happen.
A Mathematical Proof That The Universe Could Have Formed Spontaneously From Nothing

It is not a wet dream but a viable hypothesis. You haven't been paying attention. I await your anti-science nihilistic snide remarks.

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[sealybobo]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

there is zero proof there are any other planets anywhere outside our solar system,,
all we can see is pin points of light

Incorrect, you can measure the wobble of stars the exoplanets orbit.

they are assuming those are planets, and they might be but we dont know for sure

If this is true then why not believe every point of light has people as smart as us circling them?