The big question about life on other planets: 1000000000000000000000 planets in the universe

[sealybobo]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

there is zero proof there are any other planets anywhere outside our solar system,,
all we can see is pin points of light

That’s a big negative ghost rider...
Exoplanets: Worlds Beyond Our Solar System

not sure how they know its a planet if all they can see is a point of light,,

of course they can assume its a planet but that doesnt mean it is

And you can assume there’s life circling every one of those points of lite. We don’t know. Do you claim to know?

And why would you think we are the only ones?

 

[sealybobo]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

No. It takes a leap of faith to assume there is other advanced life.

The more science discovers about the universe the more miraculous our planet is proven to be.

Some put the odds similar to having 10,000 decks of cards shuffled and drawing 10,000 Aces of Spades off the top. Or having a tornado go through a parts yard and putting an automobile together.

I see no reason to exclude the possibility of ET visiting us one day, but no reason to expect it, either.

Yea but given the way solar systems are created and give it 5 billion years and eventually one planet will be in the Goldilocks zone and will get an atmosphere and water and ogygen and intelligent life will happen. We know because it happened here.

And life may have once been on mars. Billions of years before us.

And there might be lif on Europa.

Do you know there may b a planet beyond Pluto that’s huge and we don’t know because it’s so far away from our sun. We don’t know enough to determine yet. That’s the right answer

 

[sealybobo]

You have everything backwards. If humans move to Mars they will evolve to Mars and then the earth will be strange

Wake up we can go anywhere and be anything

You can't live on Mars or too long because they have no molten core and therefore no magnetic field and therefore no protection from solar radiation.

If we could plant life on mars we would. Not humans but dna or simple single cell organisms

Or if we could somehow create an ozone and plant oxygen or protein or fungus or anything that might take hold we would for sure.

 

[progressive hunter]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

there is zero proof there are any other planets anywhere outside our solar system,,
all we can see is pin points of light

Incorrect, you can measure the wobble of stars the exoplanets orbit.

they are assuming those are planets, and they might be but we dont know for sure

If this is true then why not believe every point of light has people as smart as us circling them?

here in america you are free to believe anything you want to,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

there is zero proof there are any other planets anywhere outside our solar system,,
all we can see is pin points of light

That’s a big negative ghost rider...
Exoplanets: Worlds Beyond Our Solar System

not sure how they know its a planet if all they can see is a point of light,,

of course they can assume its a planet but that doesnt mean it is

And you can assume there’s life circling every one of those points of lite. We don’t know. Do you claim to know?

And why would you think we are the only ones?

when did I say either way??

 

[sealybobo]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

there is zero proof there are any other planets anywhere outside our solar system,,
all we can see is pin points of light

That’s a big negative ghost rider...
Exoplanets: Worlds Beyond Our Solar System

not sure how they know its a planet if all they can see is a point of light,,

of course they can assume its a planet but that doesnt mean it is

And you can assume there’s life circling every one of those points of lite. We don’t know. Do you claim to know?

And why would you think we are the only ones?

when did I say either way??

Then we agree. The correct answer is we don’t know

 

[progressive hunter]

there is zero proof there are any other planets anywhere outside our solar system,,
all we can see is pin points of light

That’s a big negative ghost rider...
Exoplanets: Worlds Beyond Our Solar System

not sure how they know its a planet if all they can see is a point of light,,

of course they can assume its a planet but that doesnt mean it is

And you can assume there’s life circling every one of those points of lite. We don’t know. Do you claim to know?

And why would you think we are the only ones?

when did I say either way??

Then we agree. The correct answer is we don’t know

as I said,,we dont even know for sure they are planets let alone if they have life as we know it

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

there is zero proof there are any other planets anywhere outside oudon'r system,,
all we can see is pin points of light

Incorrect, you can measure the wobble of stars the exoplanets orbit.

they are assuming those are planets, and they might be but we dont know for sure

If this is true then why not believe every point of light has people as smart as us circling them?

Well, it took nearly 4.5 billion years for our light bulb of sentience to wink on. That's about half the life of our star.

 

[bripat9643]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

there is zero proof there are any other planets anywhere outside oudon'r system,,
all we can see is pin points of light

Incorrect, you can measure the wobble of stars the exoplanets orbit.

they are assuming those are planets, and they might be but we dont know for sure

If this is true then why not believe every point of light has people as smart as us circling them?

Well, it took nearly 4.5 billion years for our light bulb of sentience to wink on. That's about half the life of our star.

Hmmm, no, the Earth and the Sun are the same age. The universe is about 13 billion years old.

 

[westwall]

there is zero proof there are any other planets anywhere outside oudon'r system,,
all we can see is pin points of light

Incorrect, you can measure the wobble of stars the exoplanets orbit.

they are assuming those are planets, and they might be but we dont know for sure

If this is true then why not believe every point of light has people as smart as us circling them?

Well, it took nearly 4.5 billion years for our light bulb of sentience to wink on. That's about half the life of our star.

Hmmm, no, the Earth and the Sun are the same age. The universe is about 13 billion years old.

The Sun predates the Earth by at least a million years.

 

[Frannie]

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens

Jupiter is a gas giant and technically has no surface on which it's citizens and live.

A terrestrial planet the size of Jupiter would have a surface gravity many hundreds of time that of Earth, making it highly unlikely to evolve any citizens.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity, any citizens that do evolve will come and go in the wink of a geological eye.

Maybe. That's based on our own solar system though and the laws that exist here. We don't know if these same laws exist everywhere in the universe.

Of course, we also don't know what full grown "human like" species might look like or how they would function under extremely different conditions.

A basic principle of science is that the same laws exist everywhere. It would be nonsensical if they didn't.

Except when geniuses declare that the universe created itself from nothing because nothing got bored one day and decided to turn nothing into the universe

Who created God?

That is not answerable from out current perspective, at the very least God must be defined before such a question can be ask. A better question is what created us, and I assure you that no sterile pond created the most sophisticated code in the universe our DNA. And do not babble that RNA created itself either because the mathematical probability of that is null

 

[Frannie]

Incorrect, you can measure the wobble of stars the exoplanets orbit.

they are assuming those are planets, and they might be but we dont know for sure

If this is true then why not believe every point of light has people as smart as us circling them?

Well, it took nearly 4.5 billion years for our light bulb of sentience to wink on. That's about half the life of our star.

Hmmm, no, the Earth and the Sun are the same age. The universe is about 13 billion years old.

The Sun predates the Earth by at least a million years.

Everything in the universe is exactly the same age as matter can not be created thus it always was

 

[westwall]

they are assuming those are planets, and they might be but we dont know for sure

If this is true then why not believe every point of light has people as smart as us circling them?

Well, it took nearly 4.5 billion years for our light bulb of sentience to wink on. That's about half the life of our star.

Hmmm, no, the Earth and the Sun are the same age. The universe is about 13 billion years old.

The Sun predates the Earth by at least a million years.

Everything in the universe is exactly the same age as matter can not be created thus it always was

Wrong, the matter is the same age. But the form that matter takes is what we are talking about.

Now. Go away troll.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Hmmm, no, the Earth and the Sun are the same age.

Yes,I know. I said it took almost half the life of our star for our lightbulb of sentience to wink on (in our species,here on Earth).

 

[Frannie]

You have everything backwards. If humans move to Mars they will evolve to Mars and then the earth will be strange

Wake up we can go anywhere and be anything

You can't live on Mars or too long because they have no molten core and therefore no magnetic field and therefore no protection from solar radiation.

If we could plant life on mars we would. Not humans but dna or simple single cell organisms

Or if we could somehow create an ozone and plant oxygen or protein or fungus or anything that might take hold we would for sure.

There will be life on Mars, but it will take experimentation. Life does not need the conditions on Earth, the purpose for adaptation is for life to thrive in various places, as it does on Earth from 1000 degree sulfur based hydrothermal vents to cold mountaintops

 

[bripat9643]

Incorrect, you can measure the wobble of stars the exoplanets orbit.

they are assuming those are planets, and they might be but we dont know for sure

If this is true then why not believe every point of light has people as smart as us circling them?

Well, it took nearly 4.5 billion years for our light bulb of sentience to wink on. That's about half the life of our star.

Hmmm, no, the Earth and the Sun are the same age. The universe is about 13 billion years old.

The Sun predates the Earth by at least a million years.

"A million years?" The Sun and the Earth are 4.5 billion years old. A million years is virtually an instant when measured against that. The Earth took a while to take it's final form, but that process began at the same time the Sun formed.

 

[westwall]

Hmmm, no, the Earth and the Sun are the same age.

Yes,I know. I said it took almost half the life of our star for our lightbulb of sentience to wink on (in our species,here on Earth).

And that too is inaccurate, our level of sentience is less than two million years old.

 

[progressive hunter]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

there is zero proof there are any other planets anywhere outside oudon'r system,,
all we can see is pin points of light

Incorrect, you can measure the wobble of stars the exoplanets orbit.

they are assuming those are planets, and they might be but we dont know for sure

If this is true then why not believe every point of light has people as smart as us circling them?

Well, it took nearly 4.5 billion years for our light bulb of sentience to wink on. That's about half the life of our star.

do you have proof of that ???
or is it still an assumption??

 

[westwall]

they are assuming those are planets, and they might be but we dont know for sure

If this is true then why not believe every point of light has people as smart as us circling them?

Well, it took nearly 4.5 billion years for our light bulb of sentience to wink on. That's about half the life of our star.

Hmmm, no, the Earth and the Sun are the same age. The universe is about 13 billion years old.

The Sun predates the Earth by at least a million years.

"A million years?" The Sun and the Earth are 4.5 billion years old. A million years is virtually an instant when measured against that. The Earth took a while to take it's final form, but that process began at the same time the Sun formed.

The Sun formed first, the planetary disc came later. How long it took for the disc to form planets is still open to conjecture.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And that too is inaccurate, our level of sentience is less than two million years old.

Yes, I know, which makes what i said accurate. It took almost half the life of the Sun for sentience to appear on one of its planets. I dont think any of us are actually disagreeing, here.