The Ant and the Grasshopper

[gallantwarrior]

Welfare/Subsidy Queen Ants like Michelle Bachmann?

No, welfare sucking queens like Michelle Obama.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Now let's look at the REAL story...

The ants work hard in the withering heat, all summer long
The fat cat ant screams at them that they are lazy and better work harder

At the end of the season, the fat cat ant keeps 90% of what they produce and leaves the other ants to fight over the remaining ten percent
When some of the ants complain that they work so hard and have so little to show for it, the fat cat ant points out one ant who is sickly and can't work as hard as the others...
That is the reason you have so little......he does not work as hard as you and still gets a share!
So the ants turn on the sickly ant and force him from the group. Yet they are still struggling to get by on their meager share
One of the ants is smart and cries out....."The reason we have so little is because the fat cat ant takes 90% of what we produce"
The fat cat ant gets nervous and calls out....."That ant is a SOCIALIST.......he wants a redistribution of wealth!"
The other ants don't really know what a socialist is, but they know it must be bad so they drive the "socialist" ant from the group
Now that all of the ants are afraid to speak out about how little they receive for their labor, the fat cat ant says......"You will now share 5% of the profit, if you don't like it we will get some Chinese ants to do your job"

In the end........they send their jobs to China anyway

The point of the story is the grasshopper is not sickly. The grasshopper is able to work, refuses to work and just wants to be feed and housed without doing anything.

Somehow you expected someone this liberally impaired to understand that? Good luck.

 

[gallantwarrior]

The point of the story is the grasshopper is not sickly. The grasshopper is able to work, refuses to work and just wants to be feed and housed without doing anything.

Exactly. Neither are being paid a wage. if you look at the tribes in South America, you can see they all work, all the men hunt, all the women gather. They are working. Nobody is thinking the tribe owes them anything. Anybody who does not pitch in is soon pitched out of the tribe. Same thing with the Amish.

Anybody who has ever owned an ant farm can see how incredibly industrious they are. Same with honey bees. No wage is being paid. Everybody pitches in. No slackers.

Another comparison might be the story of the little red hen who gathers the wheat, turns it into flour, makes the bread, bakes it, and at every turn she asks all the others if they will help. No none of them would help do anything. But when she got the bread all baked, then they stepped up and wanted to eat it.

There is always, always going to be somebody with a bigger house, bigger car, more clothes, etc. so what? Start your own business, get training to get a better job. And by the same token you will find people with less, worse health, etc. That's life. Life's not fair. Deal with it. Maybe you could appeal to the rich Hollwood people to fork over their money, but good luck with that. They are notoriously selfish and shallow.

The people who repeat this story know absolutely nothing about entomology or the lifestyle of Ants or Grasshoppers.

Let's take Grasshoppers. Grasshoppers have a simple lifestyle. They grow up from a little grasshopper, they continue eating until they reach maturity, they mate, they lay their eggs underground, and they die. In warmer climates, the next generation of grasshoppers hatches immediately and repeats the cycle. IN colder ones, the eggs stay good for the winter.

Ants, on the other hand, don't have it quite as good. Effectively, they all slave away continuously for the good of the hive, but your average worker ant has a pretty short life-cycle. During the life cycle of that "Lazy" grasshopper, you've probably had several generations of worker ants who have worked themselves to death for the good of the hive. That is if they haven't been picked off by Spiders or Ardvarks or other creatures that eat ants.

It might be tempting to say the Queen Ant is a Capitalist in that she lives longer and enjoys the benefits of the hives labor, but really, she's a glorified sex slave, laying eggs for nearly her entire life.

Oh, to really, really annoy all you "Consevatives" who blurt "Ditto Rush"... Ants are the ultimate Femi-Nazis. The boy-ants only live long enough to mate with new queens during the mating season at the beginning of the year. Then they are all turned out of the hive and they starve to death because they don't have anyone to feed them. The queens and all the worker ants are female. Probalby would break out the Indigo Girl Albums and some scented candles...

Ants are lesbians without the turkey basters! Got it!

 

[gallantwarrior]

You're very dumb. Seriously, it's true.

I think we should just acknowledge that this crowd is allergic to the Work Ethic.

posting from work is usually a violation of work policy and integrity.

That depends entirely on where you work and who you work for, as well as the job you have. The only thing my bosses frown on is porn on the company computers and iPads.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I think of Ellis Island and the immigrants (my ancestors) that came over here for the American Dream. They worked their butts off, bought houses and provided a good living for their families. If they needed to work two or even three jobs they did. They didn't come here to live off the government. Good bosses appreciate hard workers and they are paid respectively.

I know many Italian and Irish immigrant families that are living quite comfortably and did so all by themselves. Not by beating up their fellow man because he made more than they did.

This entitlement generation makes me sick to my stomach.

The little red hen is a perfect example of what's going on today, no one wants to help but everyone wants to reap the rewards. I've asked this before and I'll ask again............why is it easier and more comfortable to earn 0 dollars than it is to work to make it. Pride and diligence are still important to some, albeit the number is growing smaller with each government hand out.

Government handouts aren't the problem. Why people NEED government handouts are.

Worker pay has STAGNATED since 1980 while CEO pay skyrockets.

Boy, do I feel sorry for all those CEO's who's pay has MULTIPLIED compared to their workers wages, who have to pay all those taxes to support the people they don't pay enough to live on.

Boo hoo for them.
Take a look at the Walton family.
They whine about their high taxes, but don't pay their workers squat.
Well, if you paid your workers more, they wouldn't have to take government handouts would they?

Where's THEIR pride? Where's THEIR loyalty?
In their bank accounts and no where else.

At WalMart they offer incentives to advance one's self. If you come to WalMart with barely a high school diploma and are not willing to work hard and learn, what do you expect? If you don't want to work at WalMart go to school to obtain training for something that pays more. It's that simple.

Try working for a medical transcription company where the owner gets six figures and knows NOTHING about the work the "worker bees" do -- where they set the requirements for production with no incentives for producing more. Where management in these companies defies all rules for good managers: that being, you should be able to do the work of those you are managing. They do not. I am in QC now so am paid hourly. but still, the owners of these companies know NOTHING about what we do. At WalMart the managers can step in and at least do the work of the workers. Because it is the workers below top level management that are bringing in the revenue. But - I COULD go on to college and get my degree and become a manager OR start my own little business, which I have done, and which is a pain in the butt actually, or I could just be happy that I have a job which pays decent money, I have my health and a wonderful marriage and happily married daughter. Life is good.

I agree to a point about CEOs being over paid especially in businesses where they themselves are not rolling up their sleeves and working.

In a physician's office, however, it is the physician who is the money maker. It is HE/SHE who the people are coming to, for it is his/her expertise they are seeking, not the RNs or receptionist's. So naturally the doctor will be taking home more. but in my experience in a doctor's office, they are generous with benefits as far as profit sharing and stock options. I worked for an orthopedic surgeon one time in the early 1980s, I transcribed super part time, he was just starting out. At Christmas he gave me four 100-dollar bills!! the company I work for now didn't have the decency to even say "thanks for all your hard work" at Christmas, never mind a bonus, not even "Happy Holidays!"

We are again faced with the libtard narrow definitions of "rich" and "not rich". It matters little how the "rich" got that way, or how they stay that way. As little as it matters how the "not rich" manage to not make themselves the rich.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Self reliance?? What the hell is that??

Shit we have a generation of folks in this country who thinks the Govt is her to take care of them. They have no problem sucking up every dime they can from the Govt. Of course its someone elses hardearned tax dollar but what the hey. Free money is free money in their book.

They have no incentive to go out and earn a living. Why should they when the Govt is gonna give em someone elses money??

Things sure have changed in this country. Pretty soon the takers will outnumber the providers.

That will be a fun time for sure.

Absolutely! These are the same people who have never earned their way, nor paid taxes, no matter how little. They have no frame of reference when it is pointed out that someone has to put the money into the kitty they suck out of. There's a commercial running on the radio right now telling everyone about EIC, how they might be entitled to FREE money. News flash, that money isn't free, someone else pays. It will indeed be interesting to see what happens when the takers outnumber those who contribute.

 

[gallantwarrior]

You mean the Good Old Days when people took care of themselves??

You mean the Good Old Days when people were responsible for themselves and paying their own bills??

Hell Yeah. I'll take the good old days any day of the week.

But then I'm a responsible person so Its a moot point.

You mean the good old days when women got half the pay as a man, for the same work?

How well would you be able to take care of yourself in the "good old days"?

Fortunately, President Obama fixed that income inequality with the Lilly Ledbetter Act.

Only the women who were not raising the children they bore.

 

[gallantwarrior]

How many people aren't paying their own bills and aren't taking care of themselves, exactly?

About half the population....

HALF of Americans don't pay income tax despite crippling government debt | Mail Online

Not paying income taxes means you're not working and buying your own things?
Not paying income taxes means you dont pay any taxes at all?

Not paying income taxes means you get everything you own bought by tax money?

Not paying your income taxes when everyone else is paying theirs, as well as other taxes we are all paying, is not paying your fair share.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Oh yeah one more thing.

Ants are ENTIRELY collectivist.

And ANTS will ALSO eat their neighbors when times are hard.

Grasshoppers do NOT work collectively and will NOT eat their own during hard times.

So if anything that metphor doesn't really work all that well UNLESS you ignore the reality of how ants and grasshoppers operate.

I'd eat my neighbors if I was hungry enough, and they were that slow!

 

[gallantwarrior]

Show where I said hard work equates to suffering?

Do you have difficulty understanding what "misfits and losers" are?

That is what pisses conservatives off the most.......people dont suffer enough

What is this then?? LOL Major fail!!

What it means is that conservatives believe that people who are receiving public assistance need to suffer more. They squalk at any perceived "luxury" they may have

Is requiring a piss-test to receive your taxpayer funding "suffering"?

 

[rightwinger]

Government handouts aren't the problem. Why people NEED government handouts are.

Worker pay has STAGNATED since 1980 while CEO pay skyrockets.

Boy, do I feel sorry for all those CEO's who's pay has MULTIPLIED compared to their workers wages, who have to pay all those taxes to support the people they don't pay enough to live on.

Boo hoo for them.
Take a look at the Walton family.
They whine about their high taxes, but don't pay their workers squat.
Well, if you paid your workers more, they wouldn't have to take government handouts would they?

Where's THEIR pride? Where's THEIR loyalty?
In their bank accounts and no where else.

At WalMart they offer incentives to advance one's self. If you come to WalMart with barely a high school diploma and are not willing to work hard and learn, what do you expect? If you don't want to work at WalMart go to school to obtain training for something that pays more. It's that simple.

Try working for a medical transcription company where the owner gets six figures and knows NOTHING about the work the "worker bees" do -- where they set the requirements for production with no incentives for producing more. Where management in these companies defies all rules for good managers: that being, you should be able to do the work of those you are managing. They do not. I am in QC now so am paid hourly. but still, the owners of these companies know NOTHING about what we do. At WalMart the managers can step in and at least do the work of the workers. Because it is the workers below top level management that are bringing in the revenue. But - I COULD go on to college and get my degree and become a manager OR start my own little business, which I have done, and which is a pain in the butt actually, or I could just be happy that I have a job which pays decent money, I have my health and a wonderful marriage and happily married daughter. Life is good.

I agree to a point about CEOs being over paid especially in businesses where they themselves are not rolling up their sleeves and working.

In a physician's office, however, it is the physician who is the money maker. It is HE/SHE who the people are coming to, for it is his/her expertise they are seeking, not the RNs or receptionist's. So naturally the doctor will be taking home more. but in my experience in a doctor's office, they are generous with benefits as far as profit sharing and stock options. I worked for an orthopedic surgeon one time in the early 1980s, I transcribed super part time, he was just starting out. At Christmas he gave me four 100-dollar bills!! the company I work for now didn't have the decency to even say "thanks for all your hard work" at Christmas, never mind a bonus, not even "Happy Holidays!"

We are again faced with the libtard narrow definitions of "rich" and "not rich". It matters little how the "rich" got that way, or how they stay that way. As little as it matters how the "not rich" manage to not make themselves the rich.

Actually, what matters is why do we continue failed policies that allow the rich to get richer? They are doing just fine without us

 

[JoeB131]

In your good ole days...

Women graduating High School were told they could be nurses, secretaries, beauticians or teachers. They were warned to avoid "mens work"

Blacks were kept "in their place" and were quickly reminded if they forgot their place

Gays were beaten if their sexuality became known

Older americans were told by their Health insurers they were no longer a good risk

The poor were left to their own devices to find their piece of the American Pie.

Excuse me while I LMAO

Of course no one want to go back to those ridiculous days.

I was speaking about the part where people took care of themselves and no one depended on the Govt to bail their ass out when they made idiotic decisions in their lives.

People took care of themselves without the Govt giving them someone elses money.

There were still misfits and losers. They didn't take care of themselves, just they and their families suffered

That is what pisses conservatives off the most.......people dont suffer enough

You know what, guy, I got to slap you on this one. Most conservatives don't want to see people suffer.

They just believe- with a certain amount of justication- that people who live off of others have no dignity.

I have no problem with a safety-net, I have a huge problem with a hammock.

Now, I think that wealth inequity and the Conservative affection for greed is part of the problem as well. Absolutely.

But so is the mentality of exchanging benefits for votes. That's the fast road to bankruptcy.

 

[rightwinger]

What is this then?? LOL Major fail!!

What it means is that conservatives believe that people who are receiving public assistance need to suffer more. They squalk at any perceived "luxury" they may have

Is requiring a piss-test to receive your taxpayer funding "suffering"?

No, it is just stupidity on the part of conservatives

 

[naturegirl]

What it means is that conservatives believe that people who are receiving public assistance need to suffer more. They squalk at any perceived "luxury" they may have

Is requiring a piss-test to receive your taxpayer funding "suffering"?

No, it is just stupidity on the part of conservatives

Stupid, why?? Care to explain??

 

[rightwinger]

Is requiring a piss-test to receive your taxpayer funding "suffering"?

No, it is just stupidity on the part of conservatives

Stupid, why?? Care to explain??

Because those piss tests cost more than the few people they find using drugs

Waste of money

http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2...ting-yields-2-percent-positive-res-ar-252458/

. Since the state began testing welfare applicants for drugs in July, about 2 percent have tested positive, preliminary data shows.

Ninety-six percent proved to be drug free -- leaving the state on the hook to reimburse the cost of their tests.

 

[JoeB131]

No, it is just stupidity on the part of conservatives

Stupid, why?? Care to explain??

Because those piss tests cost more than the few people they find using drugs

Waste of money

Welfare drug-testing yields 2% positive results | TBO.com

. Since the state began testing welfare applicants for drugs in July, about 2 percent have tested positive, preliminary data shows.

Ninety-six percent proved to be drug free -- leaving the state on the hook to reimburse the cost of their tests.

Well, that's questionable. Most employers piss test, and the number of drug users they catch are probably smaller. (We can leave aside the fact that the test probably discourages people from showing up to start with).

In 20 years of working post military, I've only known of one case where someone was caught hot on a piss-test.

 

[rightwinger]

In your good ole days...

Women graduating High School were told they could be nurses, secretaries, beauticians or teachers. They were warned to avoid "mens work"

Blacks were kept "in their place" and were quickly reminded if they forgot their place

Gays were beaten if their sexuality became known

Older americans were told by their Health insurers they were no longer a good risk

The poor were left to their own devices to find their piece of the American Pie.

Excuse me while I LMAO

Of course no one want to go back to those ridiculous days.

I was speaking about the part where people took care of themselves and no one depended on the Govt to bail their ass out when they made idiotic decisions in their lives.

People took care of themselves without the Govt giving them someone elses money.

There were still misfits and losers. They didn't take care of themselves, just they and their families suffered

That is what pisses conservatives off the most.......people dont suffer enough

You know what, guy, I got to slap you on this one. Most conservatives don't want to see people suffer.

They just believe- with a certain amount of justication- that people who live off of others have no dignity.

I have no problem with a safety-net, I have a huge problem with a hammock.

Now, I think that wealth inequity and the Conservative affection for greed is part of the problem as well. Absolutely.

But so is the mentality of exchanging benefits for votes. That's the fast road to bankruptcy.

Republicans have found an effective tactic in blaming the poor for their own conditions
It is not the nationwide decrease in jobs that you can support yourself on but lazy workers who are unwilling to work two or three jobs ( even though there are not two or three jobs avaialable)