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Is it too late to abort JB?
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Is a tumor, which is human flesh with a different genetic code from it's host body, a "human life", and thus should be protected?
I'm not talking about intelligence, but about abstract thoughts and ideas
Is it too late to abort JB?
JB, then a fetus isn't an organism all to itself either, take it out and it dies.
JB, then a fetus isn't an organism all to itself either, take it out and it dies.
You're a fucking moron. If I take you off of earth ad hurl you into space or hold your head underwater, you die. Go get an education and come back when you know what the fuck you're talking about.
The irony!Man, please try to make some sense.
If you put a fetus underwater, it'll die too. What's your point?
btw, a fetus is in a symbiotic relationship with its host, i
You were talking about protecting a fetus because it's a different organism that's a viable entity by itself.[/quoe]
1) I never spoke of 'viability'
2) I never said that living organism was sufficient conditions
3) I never asked whether a tumor can exist on its own
You are stupid, a lirr, or both. Which is it? Are you simply lying, or are you just too stupid to understand? Should we pity you for your obvious mental inferiority or or put you where you belong for choosing stupidity and ignorance? Which is it?
Maybe if you stuck to one side and stopped arguing anything with everyone, you'd have a solid position that you weren't moving around constantly to suit any debate. Because it's changed again!
As the OP of this thread, I ask that everyone remain civil and shy away from using personal attacks on one another to make your point.
The conservative point of view, if I understand this correctly, is that a fetus or a pre-fetus is a life form with the potential to become a human.
The liberal point of view is that the fetus, up until a certain time period, is not complex enough to consider human. No matter what it has the potential to become, it is not that currently and a woman should have the right to abort the pregnancy if she so chooses.
My view - first and early-mid second term abortions are acceptable. Anything beyond 22 weeks is disgusting and should be banned. If a fetus can survive outside the womb, then the fetus must be kept alive until birth unless it's a case of the mother's life. A rape victim should know pretty early on if she wants to terminate the pregnancy and I highly doubt an incest victim is going to mull it over for 22 weeks.
We kill bacteria every day. We kill incests every day. Sometimes we kill animals when we hunt. These are far more complex life forms than a fetus and many conservatives find it just fine to kill these. I do not view human life as being superior to animal life - I view it equal. For the traits and qualities and intelligence we posses, animals posses different traits and qualities superior to ours. Additionally, man relies on the animal for nourishment and clothing to be kept warm as we could not do this on our own. I find this hypocritical of conservatives.
So, that's my view on abortion. 22 weeks or less.
. The wall I know you are going to be banging your head against is the fact that to most Christians, a fetus is a human being.
I am of the belief that until the child is able to fend for itself it is an extension of the mother
Science has been unable to reach on consensus on when human life begins so you are wrong.Actually, to claim that a fetus is not a human life is to deny scienctific fact
Americans killed hundreds of thousands in the middle east wars, Nam..., 30,000+ people die from gunshots in the US every year, nutjob mothers drown their kids, police shoot a ton, car crazies kill a bunch, the US has 50 million people without health care, children in the US are going to school hungry... So please don't tell me that all life is sacred, your hypocrisy is laughable.
Science has been unable to reach on consensus on when human life begins so you are wrong.Actually, to claim that a fetus is not a human life is to deny scienctific fact
Your personal thoughts are far from scientific consensus. Fail.Science has been unable to reach on consensus on when human life begins so you are wrong.Actually, to claim that a fetus is not a human life is to deny scienctific fact
So what begins at conception, a Hyundai Getz?
Get real, do your own humanity some dignity.
]Your personal thoughts are far from scientific consensus. Fail.