The 50 most developed countries in the world and Universal Healthcare.

[U2Edge]

Well, with Universal Healthcare in Japan, Italy and France, the people there live longer than in the United States. Works just fine, everyone is covered, and those countries only spend half of what the United States does on healthcare as a percentage of GDP.

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes, the Universal Healthcare Overlords will deal with the obesity issue by denying health care services to the fatties, thus causing them to die off much earlier. They'll do the same to the Aged, and anyone with expensive chronic conditions.

For the Common Good, donchaknow.

Universal Healthcare is one of the reasons why Europeans are healthier and live longer.

 

[bripat9643]

Yea...because "god fearing" white trash girls never do that right?

Oh wait...they do. All over the place

How does that have anything to do with your claim that white girls don't get pregnant at 14?

You obviously can't read a chart.

 

[boedicca]

That Murica can bomb the fuck out of everyone better than anyone on the globe, is irrelevant to the fact that the Pentagon is one of the most wasteful and corrupt parts of the entire Alphabet Soup Mafia....That you'd use it as a model of "success" just shows how disconnected you are from anything resembling reality...Oh, and the VA sucks donkey balls.

Its #1 at what it does and uses a fraction of the money the U.S. health care system does which is 34th in the world based on the life expectancy of its citizens.

The 34th ranking isn't based solely on life expectancy, nimrod. And life expectancy isn't determined solely by the quality of your healthcare system. After achieving a certain minimum, it's largely based on diet and habits like smoking or drinking.

Europeans smoke and drink more than Americans on average.

They are a lot skinnier than Americans, and they don't have hoards of pregnant teenage girls running around.

That's because they have lower poverty rates. Much of the obese/overweight issues in the United States come from those in poverty and the lower class. Lack of access to medical care/advise and lack of access to quality healthy food at an affordable price. Universal Healthcare in the United States would help eliminate this problem.

The poor in the U.S. are often fat. They live in homes with modern conveniences such as indoor pluming, heating and air conditioning, electricity, and internet connections. They own big screen TVs and cellphones. They received free medical care from the government. In much of the world, they would be considered rich. And this is what caused it:

 

[bripat9643]

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes, the Universal Healthcare Overlords will deal with the obesity issue by denying health care services to the fatties, thus causing them to die off much earlier. They'll do the same to the Aged, and anyone with expensive chronic conditions.

For the Common Good, donchaknow.

Universal Healthcare is one of the reasons why Europeans are healthier and live longer.

Wrong.

 

[Oddball]

Universal Healthcare is one of the reasons why Europeans are healthier and live longer.

Then move the fuck to Europe.

 

[U2Edge]

Well, with Universal Healthcare in Japan, Italy and France, the people there live longer than in the United States. Works just fine, everyone is covered, and those countries only spend half of what the United States does on healthcare as a percentage of GDP.

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes...actually, it is. Once the government takes over healthcare, they stop providing quality healthcare, so overweight people die....then, the government increases the economic collapse of the country so that food becomes so hard to get, people lose weight because they run out of house pets to eat.......

Where does this happen in Europe?

 

[boedicca]

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes, the Universal Healthcare Overlords will deal with the obesity issue by denying health care services to the fatties, thus causing them to die off much earlier. They'll do the same to the Aged, and anyone with expensive chronic conditions.

For the Common Good, donchaknow.

Universal Healthcare is one of the reasons why Europeans are healthier and live longer.

Utter nonsense.

The U.S. is a not comparable to a largely homogenous small European country. We have people from all over the world here - including 20M plus illegal aliens.

 

[2aguy]

That Murica can bomb the fuck out of everyone better than anyone on the globe, is irrelevant to the fact that the Pentagon is one of the most wasteful and corrupt parts of the entire Alphabet Soup Mafia....That you'd use it as a model of "success" just shows how disconnected you are from anything resembling reality...Oh, and the VA sucks donkey balls.

Its #1 at what it does and uses a fraction of the money the U.S. health care system does which is 34th in the world based on the life expectancy of its citizens.

The 34th ranking isn't based solely on life expectancy, nimrod. And life expectancy isn't determined solely by the quality of your healthcare system. After achieving a certain minimum, it's largely based on diet and habits like smoking or drinking.

Europeans smoke and drink more than Americans on average.

They are a lot skinnier than Americans, and they don't have hoards of pregnant teenage girls running around.

That's because they have lower poverty rates. Much of the obese/overweight issues in the United States come from those in poverty and the lower class. Lack of access to medical care/advise and lack of access to quality healthy food at an affordable price. Universal Healthcare in the United States would help eliminate this problem.

Obesity is not due to poverty, you twit......it comes from eating too much......they have too much food in this country and aren't eating the appropriate number of calories. Do you see how silly you are? You can eat 1,500 calories in twinkies and lose weight...it isn't the quality of food that puts on weight, it's the calories you consume.

 

[U2Edge]

Well, with Universal Healthcare in Japan, Italy and France, the people there live longer than in the United States. Works just fine, everyone is covered, and those countries only spend half of what the United States does on healthcare as a percentage of GDP.

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Actually they are on Medicaid and how does health insurance impact eating habits. I vehemently disagree with you.

It pays to see the doctor, nurse, nutritionist, and other health providers than can help people in poor and lower income communities live and lead healthier life styles.

 

[2aguy]

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes...actually, it is. Once the government takes over healthcare, they stop providing quality healthcare, so overweight people die....then, the government increases the economic collapse of the country so that food becomes so hard to get, people lose weight because they run out of house pets to eat.......

Where does this happen in Europe?

Their healthcare systems are running out of money, so they are on the path.....the fact that we have propped them up for so long allows them to slow the decay......Venezuela didn't have our support, so they went from rich country to socialist nightmare much faster...

 

[boedicca]

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes...actually, it is. Once the government takes over healthcare, they stop providing quality healthcare, so overweight people die....then, the government increases the economic collapse of the country so that food becomes so hard to get, people lose weight because they run out of house pets to eat.......

Where does this happen in Europe?

In the UK, the NHS exterminates expensive to care for elderly:

Top doctor's chilling claim: The NHS kills off 130,000 elderly patients every year | Daily Mail Online

Thousands of elderly patients may have died prematurely due to faulty opiate syringe pumps | Daily Mail Online

 

[bripat9643]

That Murica can bomb the fuck out of everyone better than anyone on the globe, is irrelevant to the fact that the Pentagon is one of the most wasteful and corrupt parts of the entire Alphabet Soup Mafia....That you'd use it as a model of "success" just shows how disconnected you are from anything resembling reality...Oh, and the VA sucks donkey balls.

Its #1 at what it does and uses a fraction of the money the U.S. health care system does which is 34th in the world based on the life expectancy of its citizens.

The 34th ranking isn't based solely on life expectancy, nimrod. And life expectancy isn't determined solely by the quality of your healthcare system. After achieving a certain minimum, it's largely based on diet and habits like smoking or drinking.

Europeans smoke and drink more than Americans on average.

They are a lot skinnier than Americans, and they don't have hoards of pregnant teenage girls running around.

That's because they have lower poverty rates. Much of the obese/overweight issues in the United States come from those in poverty and the lower class. Lack of access to medical care/advise and lack of access to quality healthy food at an affordable price. Universal Healthcare in the United States would help eliminate this problem.

How would universal healthcare prevent poor people from eating junk food?

Healthy food is cheap. Highly processed junk food is expensive, and that's what the poor eat. That's why they are heavier than the wealthier quintiles of the population.

People are poor because of their bad habits, not the other way around.

 

[U2Edge]

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes, the Universal Healthcare Overlords will deal with the obesity issue by denying health care services to the fatties, thus causing them to die off much earlier. They'll do the same to the Aged, and anyone with expensive chronic conditions.

For the Common Good, donchaknow.

Universal Healthcare is one of the reasons why Europeans are healthier and live longer.

Utter nonsense.

The U.S. is a not comparable to a largely homogenous small European country. We have people from all over the world here - including 20M plus illegal aliens.

How long you live is not based on race or what country you came from, its based on where you live currently and the environment and conditions you are CURRENTLY living in.

 

[U2Edge]

Its #1 at what it does and uses a fraction of the money the U.S. health care system does which is 34th in the world based on the life expectancy of its citizens.

The 34th ranking isn't based solely on life expectancy, nimrod. And life expectancy isn't determined solely by the quality of your healthcare system. After achieving a certain minimum, it's largely based on diet and habits like smoking or drinking.

Europeans smoke and drink more than Americans on average.

They are a lot skinnier than Americans, and they don't have hoards of pregnant teenage girls running around.

That's because they have lower poverty rates. Much of the obese/overweight issues in the United States come from those in poverty and the lower class. Lack of access to medical care/advise and lack of access to quality healthy food at an affordable price. Universal Healthcare in the United States would help eliminate this problem.

Obesity is not due to poverty, you twit......it comes from eating too much......they have too much food in this country and aren't eating the appropriate number of calories. Do you see how silly you are? You can eat 1,500 calories in twinkies and lose weight...it isn't the quality of food that puts on weight, it's the calories you consume.

When you have less money, its harder to buy quality healthy food. You also have less access to advise and information about food. Low income areas in the United States have problems with access to good quality healthy food at an affordable price. Lots of the food that is available at low cost in these areas is calorie dense and less healthy. Calorie dense, less healthy food is CHEAPER. That is the connection with poverty! When counting calories and dollars, the lowest cost food for each calorie consumed is "fast food" like McDonalds.

 

[boedicca]

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes, the Universal Healthcare Overlords will deal with the obesity issue by denying health care services to the fatties, thus causing them to die off much earlier. They'll do the same to the Aged, and anyone with expensive chronic conditions.

For the Common Good, donchaknow.

Universal Healthcare is one of the reasons why Europeans are healthier and live longer.

Utter nonsense.

The U.S. is a not comparable to a largely homogenous small European country. We have people from all over the world here - including 20M plus illegal aliens.

How long you live is not based on race or what country you came from, its based on where you live currently and the environment and conditions you are CURRENTLY living in.

You are sorely misguided.

Genetics and the personal choices we make in how we live our lives are far bigger determinants of health than the patch of land one occupies (unless one lives in a toxic waste dump).

The poor in the U.S. are perfectly free to eat healthy food and get exercise. That they don't is due to the culture of dependency caused by Big Government support. Universal Healthcare just doubles down on something that is already failing. Those poor, by the way, ALREADY HAVE GOVERNMENT PROVIDED HEALTHCARE. As it is not making them healthier, expanding its scope is pointless at best, and disastrous at worst.

 

[bripat9643]

Are you nuts? The VA is one of the worst healthcare systems in the World........you have no idea what you are talking about.....

And he wants to deploy more troops in Europe, to guard against RUSSIA!

He's certifiably insane.

Of course, you would think that is in insane. Your a Trump supporter, a man who is essentially an agent of the Russian Federation. The Russians just invaded and annexed Crimea from the Ukraine in 2014. The possibility that they may try annex parts of Estonia and Latvia, two NATO countries, just went up. NATO as a whole does not have enough forces defending its eastern border area with Russia. Historically, such weakness and a lack of deterrence increases the odds of military aggression by a country like Russia.

Obama denied Poland a missile defense system. So who's the agent of the Russian Federation?

 

[U2Edge]

Yes...actually, it is. Once the government takes over healthcare, they stop providing quality healthcare, so overweight people die....then, the government increases the economic collapse of the country so that food becomes so hard to get, people lose weight because they run out of house pets to eat.......

Look, he's using the Pentagon as his model of efficiency and effectiveness....That should disqualify anyone from commenting on the topic right out of the gate.

The Pentagon beats the U.S. private healthcare system when it comes to efficiency and effectiveness. Its an undeniable FACT!

 

[Lesh]

Its #1 at what it does and uses a fraction of the money the U.S. health care system does which is 34th in the world based on the life expectancy of its citizens.

The 34th ranking isn't based solely on life expectancy, nimrod. And life expectancy isn't determined solely by the quality of your healthcare system. After achieving a certain minimum, it's largely based on diet and habits like smoking or drinking.

Europeans smoke and drink more than Americans on average.

They are a lot skinnier than Americans, and they don't have hoards of pregnant teenage girls running around.

That's because they have lower poverty rates. Much of the obese/overweight issues in the United States come from those in poverty and the lower class. Lack of access to medical care/advise and lack of access to quality healthy food at an affordable price. Universal Healthcare in the United States would help eliminate this problem.

How would universal healthcare prevent poor people from eating junk food?

Healthy food is cheap. Highly processed junk food is expensive, and that's what the poor eat. That's why they are heavier than the wealthier quintiles of the population.

People are poor because of their bad habits, not the other way around.

Bullshit. You never heard of the "dollar menu"?

Eating healthy DOES cost more

 

[bripat9643]

The 34th ranking isn't based solely on life expectancy, nimrod. And life expectancy isn't determined solely by the quality of your healthcare system. After achieving a certain minimum, it's largely based on diet and habits like smoking or drinking.

Europeans smoke and drink more than Americans on average.

They are a lot skinnier than Americans, and they don't have hoards of pregnant teenage girls running around.

That's because they have lower poverty rates. Much of the obese/overweight issues in the United States come from those in poverty and the lower class. Lack of access to medical care/advise and lack of access to quality healthy food at an affordable price. Universal Healthcare in the United States would help eliminate this problem.

Obesity is not due to poverty, you twit......it comes from eating too much......they have too much food in this country and aren't eating the appropriate number of calories. Do you see how silly you are? You can eat 1,500 calories in twinkies and lose weight...it isn't the quality of food that puts on weight, it's the calories you consume.

When you have less money, its harder to buy quality healthy food. You also have less access to advise and information about food. Low income areas in the United States have problems with access to good quality healthy food at an affordable price. Lots of the food that is available at low cost in these areas is calorie dense and less healthy. Calorie dense, less healthy food is CHEAPER. That is the connection with poverty!

healthy food is cheap. How much does a whole chicken fryer cost? about $0.40 / lb. Rice is $0.25/lb. Carrots, broccoli and green beans are also cheap. You can easily prepare a wholesome meal for 4 people for $5.00.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes...actually, it is. Once the government takes over healthcare, they stop providing quality healthcare, so overweight people die....then, the government increases the economic collapse of the country so that food becomes so hard to get, people lose weight because they run out of house pets to eat.......

Look, he's using the Pentagon as his model of efficiency and effectiveness....That should disqualify anyone from commenting on the topic right out of the gate.

The Pentagon beats the U.S. private healthcare system when it comes to efficiency and effectiveness. Its an undeniable FACT!

Tell that to the veterans who died while waiting to get treatment from the VA.