Terri Schiavo's Husband: Jeb Bush 'Put Me Through Hell'

[teapartysamurai]

They keep ignoring that point for some odd reason. Guess it doesn't fit in their script.

I'd prefer proof behind the point, not just accusation. Now who sounds like the liberal? Proof? Isn't an accusation enough? Um...no...it's not...

I believe the neurologist that testified that Terri came to the hospital with a neck injury caused by strangulation when she was originally treated. Plus testimony by friends and family of verbal and mental abuse.

I don't really care what you believe. Thought you realized that. Oh well.

So, why couldn't they prove that in court? I agree that would change everything, but again, it's only an accusation.

Do you think a court should decide whether YOU live or die? I mean we are not talking about a criminal trial where the death penalty is an option. We are talking about a court deciding whether YOU have the right to live, simply because someone wants YOU dead. Do you want a court deciding that?

It was Terri's husband who wanted to allow her to die. The courts merely allowed it based on the law and Terri's irreversible condition.

I love how liberals try to use words to lie about a situation.

She wasn't "allowed to die." SHE WAS STARVED TO DEATH!

We aren't talking about turning off a machine keeping her breathing or something.

She WAS STARVED TO DEATH.

Your lies about going to cut it libs.

 

[thanatos144]

They keep ignoring that point for some odd reason. Guess it doesn't fit in their script.

I'd prefer proof behind the point, not just accusation. Now who sounds like the liberal? Proof? Isn't an accusation enough? Um...no...it's not...

I believe the neurologist that testified that Terri came to the hospital with a neck injury caused by strangulation when she was originally treated. Plus testimony by friends and family of verbal and mental abuse.

I don't really care what you believe. Thought you realized that. Oh well.

So, why couldn't they prove that in court? I agree that would change everything, but again, it's only an accusation.

Do you think a court should decide whether YOU live or die? I mean we are not talking about a criminal trial where the death penalty is an option. We are talking about a court deciding whether YOU have the right to live, simply because someone wants YOU dead. Do you want a court deciding that?

It was Terri's husband who wanted to allow her to die. The courts merely allowed it based on the law and Terri's irreversible condition.

How is that better?

 

[Faun]

Yep testimony from a nursing home RN stated that he repeatedly would get pissed and ask was she dead yet? When was this bitch going to die?

Yet no one saw this as a conflict in interest.

The "do not resuscitate" in '93 was a flag. A big flag. He'd gotten his money from the malpractice suit and all of a sudden went from "I'll love her and keep her safe forever during the trial" to "do not resuscitate".

I don't know why you're not capable of learning ... but it was 5 years later when he finally went to court to get her taken off of life support.

Yeah? And? By then he had his new woman and Terri was an inconvenience.

Must of been so hard for him to try to keep up appearances all that time.

More bullshit. Again, if that were the case, he could have simply divorced her. There was nothing for him to gain other than relieving his wife of being in a PVS.

He couldn't divorce her because of her condition.

That's why he wanted her dead!

For someone who claims the courts can decide everything you are woefully ignorant about the law regarding the situation.

Nonsense. Florida statute 61.052(1)(b) allowed for Michael to divorce Terri had he wanted to. Educate yourself next time.

 

[Jarlaxle]

The Terri Schiavo freak show was and is so deeply crazed, so unhinged, such a brew of religions kookery, whacknuttery and hypocrisy

So in your mind it was a freak show? Yea we know, you didn't think she was life any more so kill her....and back to your reruns of Gilligan island

No, the freaks were the kookburgers (on both sides).

 

[Lakhota]

I am so thankful that my perceptions of the Terri Schiavo case aren't distorted by fantasy religious beliefs.

This is atheism for you boys and girls.

How are they different from the Nazis who didn't let "fantasy religious beliefs" stop them from starving handicapped children to death?

Yeah, like Christians have such a clean, honorable history. Sooo funny...

 

[teapartysamurai]

The "do not resuscitate" in '93 was a flag. A big flag. He'd gotten his money from the malpractice suit and all of a sudden went from "I'll love her and keep her safe forever during the trial" to "do not resuscitate".

I don't know why you're not capable of learning ... but it was 5 years later when he finally went to court to get her taken off of life support.

Yeah? And? By then he had his new woman and Terri was an inconvenience.

Must of been so hard for him to try to keep up appearances all that time.

More bullshit. Again, if that were the case, he could have simply divorced her. There was nothing for him to gain other than relieving his wife of being in a PVS.

He couldn't divorce her because of her condition.

That's why he wanted her dead!

For someone who claims the courts can decide everything you are woefully ignorant about the law regarding the situation.

Nonsense. Florida statute 61.052(1)(b) allowed for Michael to divorce Terri had he wanted to. Educate yourself next time.

Yeah after trying to strangle her, he sure didn't want to lose any money he might get from her, if he divorced her!

The whole Terri Schiavo story

 

[teapartysamurai]

I am so thankful that my perceptions of the Terri Schiavo case aren't distorted by fantasy religious beliefs.

This is atheism for you boys and girls.

How are they different from the Nazis who didn't let "fantasy religious beliefs" stop them from starving handicapped children to death?

Yeah, like Christians have such a clean, honorable history. Sooo funny...

More people were killed for atheism that EVER were killed in Christianity. Educate yourself by reading my sig.

 

[Faun]

The Terri Schiavo freak show was and is so deeply crazed, so unhinged, such a brew of religions kookery, whacknuttery and hypocrisy

This is liberalism for you ladies and gentlemen.

The "caring" left doesn't care that this woman was starved to death.

All they care about is those darn conservatives caring about the helpless again.

If those darn conservatives would get out of the way, not only could they kill the unborn, but the elderly, the sick, and who else gets in the way of the left.

Death panels anyone?

You're completely unhinged. It's what her husband wanted and the law allows for someone in Terri's condition to be euthanized.

 

[thanatos144]

The Terri Schiavo freak show was and is so deeply crazed, so unhinged, such a brew of religions kookery, whacknuttery and hypocrisy

This is liberalism for you ladies and gentlemen.

The "caring" left doesn't care that this woman was starved to death.

All they care about is those darn conservatives caring about the helpless again.

If those darn conservatives would get out of the way, not only could they kill the unborn, but the elderly, the sick, and who else gets in the way of the left.

Death panels anyone?

You're completely unhinged. It's what her husband wanted and the law allows for someone in Terri's condition to be euthanized.

That is all you progressives think about is killing the innocent and defenceless

 

[Faun]

Because it's horrific to keep someone in that condition when there's no hope of revival. Most people would not want to be stuck in a body like she was, with no cognitive brain activity and no chance of recovery, so it's not farfetched to believe that she conveyed as much to her husband prior to her unfortunate demise. Even if she didn't, as her husband, it was his call to make.

There was nothing for him to gain from her death. If he didn't do it out of love and compassion, he could have simply divorced her and let her parents drag her horrible situation out. Clearly, he did it for his wife.

If he divorced her he would have had to cough up his portion of the malpractice pay day he got. And of course he would lose access to playing around with all the money that he had access to from Terri's medical fund.

Clearly he got her legally offed for the money. But I think there was a second sick motivation.

He hated her parents so much because they were on to him that he got off on making sure Terri kicked the bucket.

When do you stop lying?

There were two settlements. After everything and everyone was paid off, a trust of $750k was established for Terri's medical costs (much of which was eventually used to pay for legal fees in Michael's quest to get her feeding tube removed). The second settlement was Michael's and Michael's alone. He would not have forfeited it even had he divorced Terri. And he never had access to his wife's trust other than for her medical and legal fees.

What's your next lie?

Really. Florida law tells a different story. Go bitch at their court system. Not me.

"Under Florida law, Schiavo will inherit his wife's money when she dies.

Had he divorced her and let her parents become her guardians, there's a chance he would get nothing and possibly have to give up some of the money he was awarded from the lawsuit."

Tampabay Fund for Schiavo s medical care dwindles

Fair enough, I stand corrected, he could have lost some, or even all, of his settlement. That doesn't change much since by the time Terri was allowed to die, both settlements were pretty much spent.

Terri was not "allowed" to die. She was STARVED TO DEATH!

Of course she was allowed to die. That's the perfect description. Her body was no longer able to consume food on its own. She was unable to eat without a feeding tube. The tube was removed so she could die. She didn't starve to death, she didn't possess the brain matter which would have caused her to feel hunger and she was given morphine in case she could feel pain, which she possibly couldn't since half her brain dissolved into liquid.

 

[Lakhota]

I don't know why you're not capable of learning ... but it was 5 years later when he finally went to court to get her taken off of life support.

Yeah? And? By then he had his new woman and Terri was an inconvenience.

Must of been so hard for him to try to keep up appearances all that time.

More bullshit. Again, if that were the case, he could have simply divorced her. There was nothing for him to gain other than relieving his wife of being in a PVS.

He couldn't divorce her because of her condition.

That's why he wanted her dead!

For someone who claims the courts can decide everything you are woefully ignorant about the law regarding the situation.

Nonsense. Florida statute 61.052(1)(b) allowed for Michael to divorce Terri had he wanted to. Educate yourself next time.

Yeah after trying to strangle her, he sure didn't want to lose any money he might get from her, if he divorced her!

The whole Terri Schiavo story

Why do you LIE? The autopsy showed no signs of abuse or strangulation. Only deranged NaziCons believe anything that comes from World Nut Daily.

 

[Faun]

I don't know why you're not capable of learning ... but it was 5 years later when he finally went to court to get her taken off of life support.

Yeah? And? By then he had his new woman and Terri was an inconvenience.

Must of been so hard for him to try to keep up appearances all that time.

More bullshit. Again, if that were the case, he could have simply divorced her. There was nothing for him to gain other than relieving his wife of being in a PVS.

He couldn't divorce her because of her condition.

That's why he wanted her dead!

For someone who claims the courts can decide everything you are woefully ignorant about the law regarding the situation.

Nonsense. Florida statute 61.052(1)(b) allowed for Michael to divorce Terri had he wanted to. Educate yourself next time.

Yeah after trying to strangle her, he sure didn't want to lose any money he might get from her, if he divorced her!

The whole Terri Schiavo story

There's no evidence Michael strangled her. Her condition was triggered when her potassium dropped to a dangerous level; which led to cardiac arrest. Strangulation does not cause potassium levels to drop that low.

 

[Faun]

The Terri Schiavo freak show was and is so deeply crazed, so unhinged, such a brew of religions kookery, whacknuttery and hypocrisy

This is liberalism for you ladies and gentlemen.

The "caring" left doesn't care that this woman was starved to death.

All they care about is those darn conservatives caring about the helpless again.

If those darn conservatives would get out of the way, not only could they kill the unborn, but the elderly, the sick, and who else gets in the way of the left.

Death panels anyone?

You're completely unhinged. It's what her husband wanted and the law allows for someone in Terri's condition to be euthanized.

That is all you progressives think about is killing the innocent and defenceless

Your delusions are duly noted and summarily dismissed. What I think about is choice. Michael had the choice to do what he did. I support that.

 

[paperview]

I'd prefer proof behind the point, not just accusation. Now who sounds like the liberal? Proof? Isn't an accusation enough? Um...no...it's not...

I believe the neurologist that testified that Terri came to the hospital with a neck injury caused by strangulation when she was originally treated. Plus testimony by friends and family of verbal and mental abuse.

I don't really care what you believe. Thought you realized that. Oh well.

So, why couldn't they prove that in court? I agree that would change everything, but again, it's only an accusation.

Do you think a court should decide whether YOU live or die? I mean we are not talking about a criminal trial where the death penalty is an option. We are talking about a court deciding whether YOU have the right to live, simply because someone wants YOU dead. Do you want a court deciding that?

It was the Schindlers who went to the Courts in the first place, dingleberry.

WRONG LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Terri Schiavo case - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Point out the lie. There is none/

It was the Schindlers who went to Court first to fight.

 

[Lakhota]

Autopsy: Schiavo Was Not Abused

Thogmartin also said Schiavo was blind, her brain was half its normal size and she was suffering from severe osteoporosis at the time of death. Her "bones were pulpally soft from severe osteoporosis," Thogmartin said.

More: Autopsy: Schiavo Was Not Abused - Fox News

There you have it, folks. Straight from Fox News.

 

[Lakhota]

I believe the neurologist that testified that Terri came to the hospital with a neck injury caused by strangulation when she was originally treated. Plus testimony by friends and family of verbal and mental abuse.

I don't really care what you believe. Thought you realized that. Oh well.

So, why couldn't they prove that in court? I agree that would change everything, but again, it's only an accusation.

Do you think a court should decide whether YOU live or die? I mean we are not talking about a criminal trial where the death penalty is an option. We are talking about a court deciding whether YOU have the right to live, simply because someone wants YOU dead. Do you want a court deciding that?

It was the Schindlers who went to the Courts in the first place, dingleberry.

WRONG LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Terri Schiavo case - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Point out the lie. There is none/

It was the Schindlers who went to Court first to fight.

I agree!

Government involvement in the Terri Schiavo case - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[kaz]

Referring to how Terri got to be in that condition to begin with, silly.

They keep ignoring that point for some odd reason. Guess it doesn't fit in their script.

I'd prefer proof behind the point, not just accusation. Now who sounds like the liberal? Proof? Isn't an accusation enough? Um...no...it's not...

I believe the neurologist that testified that Terri came to the hospital with a neck injury caused by strangulation when she was originally treated. Plus testimony by friends and family of verbal and mental abuse.

I don't really care what you believe. Thought you realized that. Oh well.

So, why couldn't they prove that in court? I agree that would change everything, but again, it's only an accusation.

Do you think a court should decide whether YOU live or die? I mean we are not talking about a criminal trial where the death penalty is an option. We are talking about a court deciding whether YOU have the right to live, simply because someone wants YOU dead. Do you want a court deciding that?

Begging the question

 

[kaz]

No. There was no suffering. She could feel nothing. The parts of the brain that produces thirst, hunger and pain were liquified.

HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW?????????????????

Who decides that?????????

Someone who could smile and blink her eyes can't feel pain?????????

You libs are sure willing to decide FOR OTHERS who can and can't feel suffering.

Would you be so willing on yourselves????

I bet not!

Science decides that. We know how these things work, you know.

And you bet your ass if my brain were liquified as hers was - I would want out.

It's just stupid to keep nothing but a shell of a human being around, and great cost just so you can feel better about yourself.

Science decides that??????????

Yeah like "science" decided in Nazi Germany that Jews were not really people and could be killed!

Science decides a LOT of things doesn't it in your world.

Nazi Germany indeed!

There really is no discussion you people won't bring the Nazis into, is there? What is making you feel insecure in your argument? You're right, she was dead. Bringing up Nazis weakens your argument, it doesn't strengthen it.

Oh, it is just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo unfair to bring up the historical precedent of killing the mentally handicapped isnt it?

This poster (from around 1938) reads: "60,000 Reichsmark is what this person suffering from a hereditary defect costs the People's community during his lifetime. Fellow citizen, that is your money too. Read '[A] New People', the monthly magazine of the Bureau for Race Politics of the NSDAP."

Action T4 (German: Aktion T4, pronounced[akˈtsi̯oːn teː fiːɐ]) was the postwar designation[2] for a programme of forced euthanasia in wartime Nazi Germany. Action T4 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nazis wore pants too. Let's make wearing pants a war crime.

 

[kaz]

Oh, it other words it's ONLY Unfair to bring up Nazi Germany when it hurts your side's argument.

Figures!

You're so stupid it's funny.

I'll go with yes. I am on your side on this. Your bringing up Nazis is stupid, it hurts my side because of that. Which means it hurts your side too.

 

[Faun]

So, why couldn't they prove that in court? I agree that would change everything, but again, it's only an accusation.

Do you think a court should decide whether YOU live or die? I mean we are not talking about a criminal trial where the death penalty is an option. We are talking about a court deciding whether YOU have the right to live, simply because someone wants YOU dead. Do you want a court deciding that?

It was the Schindlers who went to the Courts in the first place, dingleberry.

WRONG LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Terri Schiavo case - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Point out the lie. There is none/

It was the Schindlers who went to Court first to fight.

I agree!

Government involvement in the Terri Schiavo case - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

It depends on who went to court and for what reasons.

The first court involvement came in June, 1990, one month after Terri went into a coma, establishing Michael Schiavo as Terri's legal guardian.

Then came an out of court settlement over malpractice in August, 1992, followed up with a separate court victory over malpractice just 3 months later.

In July, 1993, the Schindler's went to court to have Michael's guardianship revoked. Seven months later, a guardian ad litem issued a report to the court that Michael had been acting "appropriately" and "attentively."

In May, 1997, Michael requests the Courts notify the Schindler's of all legal filings, as he was preparing to begin legal proceedings to have Terri's feeding tube removed.

May, 1998, Michael Schiavo petitions the court for the authority to remove Terri's feeding tube.

December, 1998, a second guardian ad litem reports to the court that Terri is in a persistent vegetative state with no chance of recovery. He adds that Michael's decision-making may be motivated by the money he would inherit.

The trial begins in January, 2000 and ends the following month with the court ruling in Michael Schiavo's favor.

In March, 2000, the Schindler's petition the court to test if Terri could consume food. The court denies that but grants Michael's petition to limit visitation.

In early 2001, the Schindler's and Michael Schiavo go to the court repeatedly over a level battle to remove Terri's feeding tube.

April 24, 2001, Terri's feeding tube is removed. The Schindler's file an emergency motion to have the tube put back. That's denied but a second motion, based on the claim that Michael perjured himself, is approved and Terri is put back on a feeding tube.

For the next 4 years, the two sides battle it out in court. By 2005, the Florida state legislature would get involved, as did the U.S. Congress. Florida's governor and his brother, President Bush tried to block the court's approval to allow Terri Schiavo the right to die. The Schindler's tried getting the Florida Supreme Court to stay the decision, and then the U.S. Supreme Court to stay it, but neither court would hear the case.

The legal battles between both sides continue until the end of March, 2005, when Terri died following the removal of her feeding tube 2 weeks earlier.

June, 2005. Jeb Bush gets a state prosecutor to investigate Michael Schiavo's actions on the day Terri first went into cardiac arrest. 10 days later, the conclusion of their investigation is no wrong doing on Michael's part. The follow month, Jeb Bush announces there will be no further investigations.

As an aside to all the legal wrangling, Michael Schiavo had the words, "I kept my promise," engraved on her grave marker; and listed February 25th, 1990, the date she slipped into a coma from which she never came out, as the date if her death.