Teen Dies After Officers Use Taser to Subdue Him

So allowing them to torture uppidity people and women is the solution?
Yes.

Police are far to prone to over react when given things like tasers and even pepper sprays.

Torture devices must and will be banned sooner or later, they are barbaric.
You would give police two options for dealing with resisting suspects:

1. Wrestling them with their bare hands.

2. Shooting them.


Option #1 is very dangerous, especially if the suspect has a knife or gun, while option #2 is overkill against someone throwing punches.

I'd much prefer officers had more options:

1. Wrestling them with their bare hands.

2. Fighting them with batons (so-called torture).

3. Tasering them (so-called torture).

4. Shooting them.
 
Anyone who drives recklessly should be treated like a mass murderer anyway, they are putting other people's lives in danger. If you don't like the laws, vote to fucking change them or get the hell out of the country.
 
So, I have wondered what sort of personality would be attracted to being a LEO.
Who else but...

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BTW, you remind me of Heather Locklear...
(LOL. Wrong hair color.) I wonder how long that show lasted? It's looks pretty goofy.
 
Ah hell, there are more teens where he came from.

The supply of teens exceeds even the parents demand for them.
 
So allowing them to torture uppidity people and women is the solution?
Yes.

Police are far to prone to over react when given things like tasers and even pepper sprays.

Torture devices must and will be banned sooner or later, they are barbaric.
You would give police two options for dealing with resisting suspects:

1. Wrestling them with their bare hands.

2. Shooting them.


Option #1 is very dangerous, especially if the suspect has a knife or gun, while option #2 is overkill against someone throwing punches.

I'd much prefer officers had more options:

1. Wrestling them with their bare hands.

2. Fighting them with batons (so-called torture).

3. Tasering them (so-called torture).

4. Shooting them.
Nope.

Allowing police to torture people is wrong and never justified.
 
Anyone who drives recklessly should be treated like a mass murderer anyway, they are putting other people's lives in danger. If you don't like the laws, vote to fucking change them or get the hell out of the country.

isnt changing the laws. exactly what we are debating? Do you want us to leave BEFORE we get a chance to change the laws?:confused:
 
Anyone who drives recklessly should be treated like a mass murderer anyway, they are putting other people's lives in danger. If you don't like the laws, vote to fucking change them or get the hell out of the country.

isnt changing the laws. exactly what we are debating? Do you want us to leave BEFORE we get a chance to change the laws?:confused:

Meh ... sure, I don't think personal transportation like cars should be legal within any major city ... my chances of getting such a law changed slim to none, but I have voted to increase penalties for drivers and will continue to do so.
 
I'd say that some authoritarian personalities are attracted to the job. If personality tests are used then those tendencies may be identified and I suppose then the recruiting process has to determine if a person should proceed. I don't know the desirable psychological profile for a cop but I know that if a person is described as being "tender" or "gullible" they'll not get past the screening programme.

As for personality change or adaptation, yes I do think the work makes people become more authoritarian than they would have been if they had done some other work. I've got no hard evidence for that.


I have great respect for cops. It's a profession that has never appealed to me, though. So, I have wondered what sort of personality would be attracted to being a LEO. I'm only going on a hypothesis with no data at all to back it up, so it's nothing of substance. I wonder if the profession attracts the more authoritarian natured personalities. If so, it would seem to me that those types would have their buttons pushed by anyone questioning that authority.

Again, I have great respect for them as they are doing a job all of us depend on and they're doing something I would not want to do. So, I'm bouncing a thought out there.
 
Lessons to be Learned:

1. Don't argue with the police, just follow instructions.

2. Don't attempt to flee from the police.

3. Don't assault the police.

4. Follow the above rules at all times, but especially when they have a taser or firearm in your face.

Pretty simple lessons...amazing how many people never learn them. Also, realize that if you take away the tasers, police will be pulling their pistols instead.

A taser is far less damaging than a 9mm.

That said, it would appear some departments could benefit from sensitivity training...


I do not have a problem when bad things happen to stupid people.
In a confrontation with police, you are given an option.....Comply with the request or force will be used against you.

If you choose the second option, it is your own problem
 
So allowing them to torture uppidity people and women is the solution?
Yes.

Police are far to prone to over react when given things like tasers and even pepper sprays.

Torture devices must and will be banned sooner or later, they are barbaric.
You would give police two options for dealing with resisting suspects:

1. Wrestling them with their bare hands.

2. Shooting them.


Option #1 is very dangerous, especially if the suspect has a knife or gun, while option #2 is overkill against someone throwing punches.

I'd much prefer officers had more options:

1. Wrestling them with their bare hands.

2. Fighting them with batons (so-called torture).

3. Tasering them (so-called torture).

4. Shooting them.
Nope.

Allowing police to torture people is wrong and never justified.

Just because YOU deem it as torture does not make it so.... When used in the proper manner, it is a means to subdue/apprehend/incapacitate an unruly suspect/perpetrator...

No tool used to subdue someone is perfectly safe for either the officer or the suspect
 
I'm not against tasers, but I am concerned about how easily the popo seems willing to use it. The above videos demonstrate the need for some serious reforms in the way they're used
 
A taser is not a 'tool' it is a torture device.

It inflicts pain on people to compell them to do what they order. THAT is the definition of a torture device.

It is NEVER 'warrented' and there are literally dozens of film proof that it is misused.

There is ZERO JUSTIFACTION for giving the police the ability to torture people that have not even been arrested.

Geez are you fucking stupid.
Handcuffs also compel people to do things. Handcuff also hurt. I guess handcuffs ought to be labeled a torture device and banned as well.
Some people could do with a few hundred volts to the scrotum.
No asshole, i am anti-torture, and anti-gestapo, allowing the stasi to use torture devices is nazi-like.
Numbnuts, it isn't torture, any more than handcuffs are torture. If you can't tell the difference then you're really fucking stupid, as though you hadn't demonstrated that to begin with.
 
Tasers are torture devices, there can be no moral justifaction for them.

They are designed soley to inflict pain and used often with poor judgement by law enforcement at the slightest provocation as hundreds of videos have shown.

Every cop that has ever used one should have it used on them, then this shit would stop.
The LEOs around here must go through training in their use before they are issued one. That training includes getting tazed.

I have personally been tazed in a LEO training excercise. You get incapacitated and are unable to fight back effectively. Within seconds of the tazing stoppage I was on my feet again and laughing at how well it kicked my butt. Tazers can be used very safely and we ALWAYS hear from criminal loving libturds every time someone dies or gets injured from tazers.

It starts with a libturd hatred of LEO's and love of criminal bastards that vote Democrat.
 
I'm not against tasers, but I am concerned about how easily the popo seems willing to use it. The above videos demonstrate the need for some serious reforms in the way they're used

There is massive paperwork and an automatic investigation requirement every time a LEO discharges a tazer. No LEO takes their usage lightly. Mine has a counter that gets computer logged. There are also tazer "tags" (little pieces of plastic with coded sequences) that shoot out every time you use the tazer. (pyrotechnic dart depolying style) These can be traced back to the tazer and LEO that uses it.
 
Thanks, SIngleDad.
Are there abuses within PDs? Sure. Are these widespread? By no means. The taser is a great tool. The legal liability that comes with using them stinks.
 
Would the libs prefer that I use this over the tazer?

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Would the libs prefer that I use this over the tazer?
I don't count myself a liberal, as should be apparent from (an unbiased) reading of my posts, but to answer the central question:
If that type baton is shown safer for the target under typical usage conditions then yes the police should use it instead of a tazer.

I do find it ironic that a police officer has an avatar with the hammer an sickle of communism. Though as another poster suggested, I suppose totalitarianism appeals to police. In fact is makes a certain amount of sense that Police support a Police State.
 
A jail is one of the most totalitarian environments you will find. It's not a very pleasant job, but someone has to do it.

If the police weren't authoritarian towards criminals, individual citizens would be forced to fend for themselves, resulting in vigilante justice. Vigilantism makes for a violent everyday life.

I appreciate the boys in blue, for this reason.
 
Would the libs prefer that I use this over the tazer?
I don't count myself a liberal, as should be apparent from (an unbiased) reading of my posts, but to answer the central question:
If that type baton is shown safer for the target under typical usage conditions then yes the police should use it instead of a tazer.

I do find it ironic that a police officer has an avatar with the hammer an sickle of communism. Though as another poster suggested, I suppose totalitarianism appeals to police. In fact is makes a certain amount of sense that Police support a Police State.


Ummm...

1) If you can't figure out that his avatar is symbolic of Obama (the basis of his logo) and his socialist/communist/Marxist ideologies (the hammer and sickle)... then you really must have some horrid perception skills
2) Law and order would appeal to police... it is a mighty HUGE stretch to think that totalitarianism inherently appeals to those in police work
 

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