Ted Cruz Introduces Bills to Stop Gay Marriage

[Syriusly]

You are obsessing about an institution that has over a 60% failure rate. That abysmal longevity stat has little if nothing to do with homosexuals. It would serve you that think it is the "foundation" of our society to work a little harder on the actual causes of it's horrible record of success.

many believe that sanctioning gay marriage would harm society, you don't believe it would. There is a difference of opinion-----------so lets put it to a vote in every state and let the will of the people prevail.

I will accept the will of the people, will you?

I'm more an "equal protection under the law" kindof a guy. There are some issues that the nation must agree on as a whole. I like having a valid drivers license anywhere I drive even if it is across a state line. When I was married it was a good thing my marriage license was valid also. I will attest though that the failure to remain married had nothing to do with the queers being married or not.

do you think being "queer" is a normal human condition? yes or no

As normal as being left handed is.

Nonsense

Mental disorders & chemical imbalances are not normal.

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

 

[Syriusly]

So you admit that LGBT is just another religion ..

No- that is just your whacky claim.

 

[Kosh]

Where does the 14th amendment say same sex marriage is an equal right?
It says deprive any person of life, liberty or property.
You are free to be gay in this country but it says nothing about marriage.

You are obsessing about an institution that has over a 60% failure rate. That abysmal longevity stat has little if nothing to do with homosexuals. It would serve you that think it is the "foundation" of our society to work a little harder on the actual causes of it's horrible record of success.

many believe that sanctioning gay marriage would harm society, you don't believe it would. There is a difference of opinion-----------so lets put it to a vote in every state and let the will of the people prevail.

I will accept the will of the people, will you?

I'm more an "equal protection under the law" kindof a guy. There are some issues that the nation must agree on as a whole. I like having a valid drivers license anywhere I drive even if it is across a state line. When I was married it was a good thing my marriage license was valid also. I will attest though that the failure to remain married had nothing to do with the queers being married or not.

do you think being "queer" is a normal human condition? yes or no

As normal as being left handed is.

Cancer is normal as well..

Do these far left drones realize that their arguments always fail..

This is a fight to plunder someone else's social security, why do you think the far left got behind this cause?

Also this was a way for the far left to go after the church and their money, which is beyond their control.

 

[Kosh]

many believe that sanctioning gay marriage would harm society, you don't believe it would. There is a difference of opinion-----------so lets put it to a vote in every state and let the will of the people prevail.

I will accept the will of the people, will you?

I'm more an "equal protection under the law" kindof a guy. There are some issues that the nation must agree on as a whole. I like having a valid drivers license anywhere I drive even if it is across a state line. When I was married it was a good thing my marriage license was valid also. I will attest though that the failure to remain married had nothing to do with the queers being married or not.

do you think being "queer" is a normal human condition? yes or no

As normal as being left handed is.

Nonsense

Mental disorders & chemical imbalances are not normal.

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

Far leftism is a mental disorder brought on by corrupt religious teachings..

 

[Skylar]

So you admit that LGBT is just another religion vyying for dominance in the US? I'll agree to that.

Sure you agree to it: you're the one who said it. No one else has.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

many believe that sanctioning gay marriage would harm society, you don't believe it would. There is a difference of opinion-----------so lets put it to a vote in every state and let the will of the people prevail.

I will accept the will of the people, will you?

I'm more an "equal protection under the law" kindof a guy. There are some issues that the nation must agree on as a whole. I like having a valid drivers license anywhere I drive even if it is across a state line. When I was married it was a good thing my marriage license was valid also. I will attest though that the failure to remain married had nothing to do with the queers being married or not.

do you think being "queer" is a normal human condition? yes or no

As normal as being left handed is.

Nonsense

Mental disorders & chemical imbalances are not normal.

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

Sorry bud. But homosexuality is an abnormal condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain.

 

[Skylar]

I'm more an "equal protection under the law" kindof a guy. There are some issues that the nation must agree on as a whole. I like having a valid drivers license anywhere I drive even if it is across a state line. When I was married it was a good thing my marriage license was valid also. I will attest though that the failure to remain married had nothing to do with the queers being married or not.

do you think being "queer" is a normal human condition? yes or no

As normal as being left handed is.

Nonsense

Mental disorders & chemical imbalances are not normal.

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

Sorry bud. But homosexuality is an abnormal condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain.

A chemical imbalance of what?

 

[danielpalos]

In short Rome fell because of Roman conquest. All the other shit is secondary

nope; it was a leadership failure and an economic failure; each could have been overcome severally, but not both at the same time.

 

[danielpalos]

Why does the right insist on being infidel, protestant, renegade, and repugnant to Article 4, Section 2 of our supreme law of the land?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

do you think being "queer" is a normal human condition? yes or no

As normal as being left handed is.

Nonsense

Mental disorders & chemical imbalances are not normal.

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

Sorry bud. But homosexuality is an abnormal condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain.

A chemical imbalance of what?

New Insight into the Epi Genetic Roots of Homosexuality TIME.com

 

[Syriusly]

I'm more an "equal protection under the law" kindof a guy. There are some issues that the nation must agree on as a whole. I like having a valid drivers license anywhere I drive even if it is across a state line. When I was married it was a good thing my marriage license was valid also. I will attest though that the failure to remain married had nothing to do with the queers being married or not.

do you think being "queer" is a normal human condition? yes or no

As normal as being left handed is.

Nonsense

Mental disorders & chemical imbalances are not normal.

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

Sorry bud. But homosexuality is an abnormal condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain.

Sorry bud- that is a theory that has not been proven one way or another.

Meanwhile- once again- homosexuality and 'left handed'ness- are both minority- but normal human conditions.

There is no 'right' or 'wrong'- even though 'left handed' historically has been linked to 'evil' in Western culture(the word sinister....)

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I'm willing to look the other way when fags want to express themselves. I even support your desire for marriage.
I will not however accept homosexuality as anything other than a disfunctional behavior.

 

[Syriusly]

As normal as being left handed is.

Nonsense

Mental disorders & chemical imbalances are not normal.

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

Sorry bud. But homosexuality is an abnormal condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain.

A chemical imbalance of what?

New Insight into the Epi Genetic Roots of Homosexuality TIME.com

Nothing in the article says 'abnormal condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain'- or even suggests it.

For an evolutionary biologist, homosexuality is something of a puzzle. It’s a common trait, found in up to 10% of the population. It appears to be run in families, suggesting that it is hereditary, at least in part. And yet it defies the very reason why traits are passed on from generation to generation. How could something that hinders childbearing be passed down so frequently from parents to children?

Researchers at the National Institute for Mathematical and Biological Synthesis (NIMBioS) think they may have an answer. It’s not in written in our DNA sequence itself, they suggest, which explains why scientists have failed so far to find “gay genes,” despite intensive investigations. Instead, it’s written in how our genes are expressed: that is, in certain modifications to how and when DNA is activated. These changes can have environmental roots, so are not normally permanent enough to be passed from parent to child. But occasionally, they are.




“It’s not genetics. It’s not DNA. It’s not pieces of DNA. It’s epigenetics,” says Sergey Gavrilets, a NIMBioS researcher and an author on the paper that outlines the new theory of homosexuality, published in The Quarterly Review of Biology. “The hypothesis we put forward is based on epigenetic marks,” he says.

To be specific, the new theory suggests that homosexuality is caused by epigenetic marks, or “epi-marks,” related to sensitivity to hormones in the womb. These are compounds that sit on DNA and regulate how active, or inactive certain genes are, and also control when during development these genes are most prolific. Gavrilets and his colleagues believe that gene expression may regulate how a fetus responds to testosterone, the all-important male sex hormone. They further argue that epi-marks may help to buffer a female fetus from high levels of testosterone by suppressing receptors that respond to testosterone, for example, (thus ensuring normal fetal development even in the presence of a lot of testosterone) or to buffer a male fetus from low levels of testosterone by upregulating receptors that bind to the hormone (ensuring normal fetal development even in the absence of high levels of testosterone). Normally, these epi-marks are erased after they are activated, but if those marks are passed down to the next generation, the same epi-marks that protected a man in utero may cause oversensitivity to testosterone among his daughters, and the epi-marks that protected a woman in utero may lead to undersensitivity to testosterone among her sons.


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Gavrilets says that some scientists have already expressed “strong interest” in new experiments that will test the hypothesis, attempting to estimate how often such epi-marks may arise among men and women, and how often they are saved from one generation to the next. The work might also explain the extent to which epi-marks can influence sexual behavior. While experimental evidence is lacking for now, Gavrilets says he is reasonably confident that the theory is sound.
“It’s compatible with the [existing] data. Plus it’s supported by mathematical modeling,” he says.


The new theory is important because it synthesizes well-tested and well-developed evolutionary principles with cutting-edge research in molecular biology and biological computation. Epigenetics is not a new concept exactly, but the field has exploded within the past decade. Where once it seemed that genes and environment were distinct, or that nature and nurture were distinct, now it seems clear that environment itself may change the ways in which our genes function – even though the genes themselves are essentially fixed over time, barring occasional mutations, and conserved across generations.



For now, the work is still controversial. Gavrilets says he and his colleagues have been criticized both by conservatives, who weren’t happy with people searching for a biological basis to homosexuality, as well as by some in the gay and lesbian community, who feel they shouldn’t require a scientific investigation to justify who they are.


“It’s been a controversial topic,” Gavrilets says. “There is a lot of misconception in the world about the topic of homosexuality.” Still, he says, “One of the roles of science is to clear up misconceptions, to explain different phenomena or different patterns.”

 

[Syriusly]

I'm willing to look the other way when fags want to express themselves. I even support your desire for marriage.
I will not however accept homosexuality as anything other than a disfunctional behavior.

As long as you don't discriminate against homosexuals, or advocate discriminating against homosexuals, I am fine with you having whatever personal opinions you want- doesn't mean I will let them go unchallenged/

 

[Skylar]

In short Rome fell because of Roman conquest. All the other shit is secondary

nope; it was a leadership failure and an economic failure; each could have been overcome severally, but not both at the same time.

My understanding of the collapse was that it was due primarily to civil wars which just devastated the legions and their leadership. The Romans in turn relied more heavily on foreign conscripts which didn't use standardized Roman tactics and often had loyalties outside the Roman empire.Massive migrations out of central Asia and into Eastern Europe along with the rise of Persia lead to the empire's decline and eventual collapse.

 

[Skylar]

As normal as being left handed is.

Nonsense

Mental disorders & chemical imbalances are not normal.

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

Sorry bud. But homosexuality is an abnormal condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain.

A chemical imbalance of what?

New Insight into the Epi Genetic Roots of Homosexuality TIME.com

So what chemicals are you claiming are imbalanced?

 

[peach174]

do you think being "queer" is a normal human condition? yes or no

As normal as being left handed is.

Nonsense

Mental disorders & chemical imbalances are not normal.

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

Sorry bud. But homosexuality is an abnormal condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain.

Sorry bud- that is a theory that has not been proven one way or another.

Meanwhile- once again- homosexuality and 'left handed'ness- are both minority- but normal human conditions.

There is no 'right' or 'wrong'- even though 'left handed' historically has been linked to 'evil' in Western culture(the word sinister....)

If homosexuality was normal they would be able to reproduce.
Reproduction is normal.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Nonsense

Mental disorders & chemical imbalances are not normal.

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

Sorry bud. But homosexuality is an abnormal condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain.

A chemical imbalance of what?

New Insight into the Epi Genetic Roots of Homosexuality TIME.com

So what chemicals are you claiming are imbalanced?

I believe we are beating a dead horse at this point. I won't sway you & you won't me.
That article touches on what I believe hence the link. I'm not gonna pretend to be a geneticist and start speaking about shit that goes well over my education level.

 

[Skylar]

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

Sorry bud. But homosexuality is an abnormal condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain.

A chemical imbalance of what?

New Insight into the Epi Genetic Roots of Homosexuality TIME.com

So what chemicals are you claiming are imbalanced?

I believe we are beating a dead horse at this point. I won't sway you & you won't me.
That article touches on what I believe hence the link. I'm not gonna pretend to be a geneticist and start speaking about shit that goes well over my education level.

You're saying its a chemical imbalance. I'm asking which chemicals are supposedly imbalanced. Your article doesn't speak of imbalances in chemicals for gays or lesbians.

So what are you speaking of? If you don't know, just say so. I certainly have no idea what you're talking about. So we're in the same boat.

 

[Skylar]

As normal as being left handed is.

Nonsense

Mental disorders & chemical imbalances are not normal.

We aren't talking about mental disorders or chemical imbalances- we were speaking of homosexuality and 'left handed' ness- both minority, but normal human conditions.

Sorry bud. But homosexuality is an abnormal condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain.

Sorry bud- that is a theory that has not been proven one way or another.

Meanwhile- once again- homosexuality and 'left handed'ness- are both minority- but normal human conditions.

There is no 'right' or 'wrong'- even though 'left handed' historically has been linked to 'evil' in Western culture(the word sinister....)

If homosexuality was normal they would be able to reproduce.
Reproduction is normal.

Lots and lots of heterosexuals never have kids. And quite a few of the devout are straight up celibate.

Are these folks equally 'abnormal'?