California will try to enshrine right to same-sex marriage

[BothWings]

And food is for nutrition.

So, next time you're hungry, have a piece of bread and take a vitamin.

I do often. Bread is tasty. I also generally steer clear of greasy, fatty foods and don't indulge in sweet things often either. I eat quite healthily, including the V8 I drank on the way to the store today and the pasta with mussels and baked zucchini I had for lunch. I like those things and they're great nutrition too. It's actually quite funny when one of my flabby coworkers with ugly complexion try to turn me on to some rich dessert or greasy food and I politely say no thanks. They can't understand that there are people who arent the indulgent pigs that they are.

What's your point with that comment other than to stick your foot in your mouth?

 

[initforme]

As a white traditionally married hetero male I can say that nobody yet who believes in freedom is upset by gay marriage. It's zero threat to traditional marriage and it in no way affects the country. Fact.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Sex is for reproducing. Nature makes it feel good so we'll do it. There is something definitely wrong when some people think it's there for their simple recreation and form entire cultures and institutions around it. This creates a singularity which begins to twist society itself around a selfish lie.

Sex Is for Recreation, Not Re-creation

Nature makes it feel too good. It shouldn't be such a strong drive if it's only needed for reproduction, not even if it's for keeping married couples together. In fact, it interferes with that; it is rarely concentrated on one person.

Submitting to Nature is subhuman; this false god is not designed in our best interests. We have to solve the problems caused by inhibiting or condemning the strong sex drive a hostile Nature sticks us with. Christianity has no right to glorify chastity, so that doctrine is to humiliate believers and keep them in their place.

Birth-control and abortion are beneficial and intelligent answers to some of the problem caused by the sex drive. So are prostitution and mistresses. Europe, though decadent in many other respects, at least deals far more rationally with this drive than America does. It's not just religion here; the ruling class sees it as in its best interest to constantly harass the ruled, even including pornography and lewd dress to magnify the trap of the sex drive.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

People of the same sex should be able to marry each other. It isn't hurting anybody.

All laws should be constructed around the principle of harm, not mores.

 

[BothWings]

Sex Is for Recreation, Not Re-creation

Nature makes it feel too good. It shouldn't be such a strong drive if it's only needed for reproduction, not even if it's for keeping married couples together. In fact, it interferes with that; it is rarely concentrated on one person.

Submitting to Nature is subhuman; this false god is not designed in our best interests. We have to solve the problems caused by inhibiting or condemning the strong sex drive a hostile Nature sticks us with. Christianity has no right to glorify chastity, so that doctrine is to humiliate believers and keep them in their place.

Birth-control and abortion are beneficial and intelligent answers to some of the problem caused by the sex drive. So are prostitution and mistresses. Europe, though decadent in many other respects, at least deals far more rationally with this drive than America does. It's not just religion here; the ruling class sees it as in its best interest to constantly harass the ruled, even including pornography and lewd dress to magnify the trap of the sex drive.

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Sex Is for Recreation, Not Re-creation

Nature makes it feel too good. It shouldn't be such a strong drive if it's only needed for reproduction, not even if it's for keeping married couples together. In fact, it interferes with that; it is rarely concentrated on one person.

Submitting to Nature is subhuman; this false god is not designed in our best interests. We have to solve the problems caused by inhibiting or condemning the strong sex drive a hostile Nature sticks us with. Christianity has no right to glorify chastity, so that doctrine is to humiliate believers and keep them in their place.

Birth-control and abortion are beneficial and intelligent answers to some of the problem caused by the sex drive. So are prostitution and mistresses. Europe, though decadent in many other respects, at least deals far more rationally with this drive than America does. It's not just religion here; the ruling class sees it as in its best interest to constantly harass the ruled, even including pornography and lewd dress to magnify the trap of the sex drive.

It should be a strong drive precisely because it's needed for reproduction. Otherwise creatures might get distracted and miss the cue, and end up with dangerously low levels in their populations. Most species also rely on what is called "recruitment" for maintaining population. In case you didn't know, that is the number of live young which actually survive to adulthood.

I don't really care what the church says we ought to do about sex. I am not religious, albeit spiritual. But I do understand and appreciate the message delivered in some biblical stories such as Genesis. Other than that the church is simply not a factor in my sex life.

I do not agree that prostitution and Mistresses are a healthy way to deal with a sex drive. Many people are hurt by that and while I don't really feel it should be illegal, I do not support that institution and I look down on people who do.

Using birth control preferably of the simplest type is the best way to prevent unwanted pregnancy. Voluntary abstinence is the most admirable.

There is nothing sensible about the way Europeans deal with their sex drive! There are some many older couples in Europe without children that they are starting to have dangerously low levels of youth. In another few decades there will be a massive "missing generation" or two in Europe, and it will not be good for them. They will likely become more overrun by non-european immigrants than they already are as a result. We will begin to see some of their cultures slip away somewhat.

With the exception of some rarer cases, free and easy abortion is a deplorable way to deal with lack of discipline and in fact enables and encourages people to fuck like rabbits without having to worry or take responsibility. The more normalized this way of thinking becomes the more deplorable our society will become.

I was 36 years old when I finally had a child. For nearly 20 of those years I enjoyed sex sometimes with protection and sometimes without and never got anyone pregnant. It was when I finally met my wife and realized that we were both at an optimum age for having a child and perhaps should not wait any longer that I simply made the decision in my mind and in less than a year we had our first kid. THAT is what I call pro-choice, not your definition of it. You use stupid words like "subhuman". All that really makes us different than the other animals (and we ARE animals) is that we have free will and make personal choices. I use my free will in the way that I just described.

YMMV.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

And food is for nutrition.

So, next time you're hungry, have a piece of bread and take a vitamin.

But you can’t survive by shoving bread and vitamins in your ass.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

People of the same sex should be able to marry each other. It isn't hurting anybody.

All laws should be constructed around the principle of harm, not mores.

If they’re allowed to contrive phony families and deprive children of the opportunity to be raised by a structured family and doing it with the aid and blessing of the law, they are hurting children and the society in general.
If they want to play marriage with each other and leave it at that, let them.

 

[Slade3200]

Sex is for reproducing. Nature makes it feel good so we'll do it. There is something definitely wrong when some people think it's there for their simple recreation and form entire cultures and institutions around it. This creates a singularity which begins to twist society itself around a selfish lie.

Of course it’s for reproduction…. And of course it’s for recreation. Why in the world would you claim it isn’t… you said yourself, nature makes it feel good

 

[BothWings]

Of course it’s for reproduction…. And of course it’s for recreation. Why in the world would you claim it isn’t… you said yourself, nature makes it feel good

It's not for recreation in the entertainment sense. It feels good so you will be compelled to reproduce. There's no other reason in nature for it to be that way.

 

[Invisibleflash]

California will try to enshrine right to same-sex marriage​

This is great news! Of course I want to see a constitutional amendment to the United states constitution saying that we have this right.

Would expect nothing less from the pedo party.

Homosexuals and transqueers are mentally ill. Two women or two men cannot get married.

 

[Slade3200]

And I will continue endeavoring to convince as many people as possible not to buy into or sponsor your culture financially or politically. I have worked with many fine gay coworkers who never bothered me with or pushed their culture on me but you obviously do want to bother people with yours. It's people like you that give homosexuals a bad name.

And I live right outside of a metropolis, not in a hick town...ASSHOLE.

That’s the process it takes the normalize and change cultures. There is always a wave that pushes and reaches and makes a lot of noise. Once the wave washes out then things normalize. There was absolutely a need for things to change in the LGBTQ community. We are seeing that happen now

 

[Slade3200]

Homosexuals and transqueers are mentally ill. Two women or two men cannot get married.

Of course they can. Land of the Free buddy. Deal with it

 

[Slade3200]

It's not for recreation in the entertainment sense. It feels good so you will be compelled to reproduce. There's no other reason in nature for it to be that way.

Yet we see animals masturbating and having sex with any hole they can find. So of course it’s recreation. How is any kind of recreation justifiable in your warped logic?

 

[BothWings]

That’s the process it takes the normalize and change cultures. There is always a wave that pushes and reaches and makes a lot of noise. Once the wave washes out then things normalize. There was absolutely a need for things to change in the LGBTQ community. We are seeing that happen now

Come on try it!
All the kids are doing it!

It's NOT normal no matter how common it becomes. It is being pushed, enabled and normalized because it's helping a certain political party gain followers and votes.

That's all there is to it.
Transgenderism is older than I am and I am in my fifties! There are people who made a transition before I was even alive. They lived. They did their thing. One of them is even an incredibly gifted musician who I admire very much for his/her work. I really don't give a rats ass about the transgender part of his/her career. I would shake his/her hand on his/her accomplishments well completely brushing aside the transgender issue even though I do find it creepy. What I do care about and abhor is the political wave associated with it now.

 

[Slade3200]

It's NOT normal no matter how common it becomes. It is being pushed, enabled and normalized because it's helping a certain political party gain followers and votes.

America has never been about conforming to what older generations deem “normal”, we are promoters of liberty and freedom.

It’s being pushed, enabled and normalized to combat generations of discrimination.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It's not for recreation in the entertainment sense. It feels good so you will be compelled to reproduce. There's no other reason in nature for it to be that way.

It’s called survival of the species.

 

[Slade3200]

It’s called survival of the species.

We don’t have a reproduction problem

 

[pknopp]

Sex is for reproducing. Nature makes it feel good so we'll do it. There is something definitely wrong when some people think it's there for their simple recreation and form entire cultures and institutions around it. This creates a singularity which begins to twist society itself around a selfish lie.

Why would nature care?

 

[BothWings]

America has never been about conforming to what older generations deem “normal”, we are promoters of liberty and freedom.

It’s being pushed, enabled and normalized to combat generations of discrimination.

The absolutely horrible state of our country today is proof of that. Our government can barely function, and yet our government supports what you are saying. Flashing your way of life in the faces of everyone else is not respecting Liberty and freedom with equality. It is selfishly focusing on only YOUR Liberty and freedom.

You are a spoiled liar and you don't even know it.

 

[BothWings]

It’s called survival of the species.

That's right. Thank you sir!
It's really great that we can enjoy it, but it is doing it for it's TRUE PURPOSE...which is what REALLY what makes it such an amazing transcendental all-encompassing experience. People who lose sight of that will never experience that sacred dimension of it. To them it will never be anything more than an abuse of nature to achieve a temporary fix.